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Should a man that married a single mother be on the hook for child support if the marriage implodes?

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I am specifically referring to a man paying for kids that are not his? In a related topic: Should grandparents be on the hook for child support when a minor produces a child?
 
Only if the non-parental spouse legally adopted that child.
 
SDET said:
I am specifically referring to a man paying for kids that are not his?
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Depends but hard to prove... if they manipulate the children away or try to move away from the other biological parent then yes. The new step-parent should be forced to pay... also, if they make a lot that should be factored in.
 
If the father of that child is alive and paying child support then no.
 
SDET said:
I am specifically referring to a man paying for kids that are not his? In a related topic: Should grandparents be on the hook for child support when a minor produces a child?
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if the man has knowledge the woman has dependent children, then yes ...........
 
SDET said:
I am specifically referring to a man paying for kids that are not his? In a related topic: Should grandparents be on the hook for child support when a minor produces a child?
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No, that has to be done by the biological father, not by the second husband. He may be on the hook for spousal support but not child support. And last time grand parents are not the parents so there is very little justification to force them to pay for a grandchild.
 
Peter King said:
No, that has to be done by the biological father, not by the second husband. He may be on the hook for spousal support but not child support. And last time grand parents are not the parents so there is very little justification to force them to pay for a grandchild.
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FYI:
Minor Children of Minor Parents

Grandparents may also be liable for child support of a grandchild under the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996 (PRWORA). This law allows states to require grandparents to be held liable for child support if the custodial parent is a minor and receives government support payments.
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States with laws requiring grandparents to pay child support include: Arizona, Idaho, Illinois, Maryland, Missouri, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Ohio. Rhode Island. South Carolina, South Dakota, Wisconsin, and Wyoming. Some states, like Maryland and North Carolina, also extend responsibility for child support to the parents of the custodial parent in addition to the parents of the noncustodial parent.
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https://blogs.findlaw.com/law_and_life/2015/03/can-grandparents-be-ordered-to-pay-child-support.html
 
Peter King said:
No, that has to be done by the biological father, not by the second husband. He may be on the hook for spousal support but not child support. And last time grand parents are not the parents so there is very little justification to force them to pay for a grandchild.
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This depends. 14 year olds can make babies together but in general would be unable to actually find work that pays well enough (not to mention hours to work, since most their time would be at school) to support a baby. Since one or both of the parents of the baby would also be under the custody of their parents, then it can easily be seen why grandparents (one or both sets) could be held responsible for paying for their grandchildren, at least up until their children are of legal age to take that responsibility on themselves. Also, grandparents may take legal custody of their grandchildren due to many reasons, and then divorce. I know someone who was raised by her grandparents after her father died when she was very young. Had her grandparents divorced, there could easily be a case made that the noncustodial grandparent pay child support.
 
SDET said:
I am specifically referring to a man paying for kids that are not his? In a related topic: Should grandparents be on the hook for child support when a minor produces a child?
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Should a man that married a single mother(Meanign he is not the father) be on the hook for child support if the marriage implodes?

Of course not, its insanity that his happens IMO.

Could EITHER party find themselves paying alimony, that could happen. Im not even so much a fan of that, i feel it should be very specific/circumstantial and part of the marriage contract that should be a contract that gets adjusted.
 
SDET said:
I am specifically referring to a man paying for kids that are not his? In a related topic: Should grandparents be on the hook for child support when a minor produces a child?
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The moral question of should is complex and fuzzy, very much dependant on the individual circumstances of each case.

The legal practicalities have to be somewhat simpler and more broad brush since their priority must be the welfare of any children involved. In any case where the question needs to be ask (in other words, the adults involved didn’t work it out between themselves), you’re never going to make everyone happy.
 
Yes ......
 
I misread this before... if the marriage ends should he... NO.

He should be free to move on his way never to see or deal with them again and not pay for them either.
 
SDET said:
I am specifically referring to a man paying for kids that are not his? In a related topic: Should grandparents be on the hook for child support when a minor produces a child?
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In the first case, if the man legally adopts the children, then yes.

If not then the original father is still on the hook for that.

In the second case, no, the grandparents should not pay for the support of the grandchild after their child turns 18.
 
Hell ****in' no he shouldnt... what the ****.... Did he sign adoption paperwork or something?
 
SDET said:
Should grandparents be on the hook for child support when a minor produces a child?
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Interesting question and I havent looked into the law or precedent here. Dont know what they are.

However *IMO*, the non-custodial parent of the child (minor or not) should pay child support. If a minor, then his or her parents should be held accountable for payments until he or she is 18.

OTOH, the grandparents (of the custodial parent/their child) are still responsible for housing and caring for their minor child as they would normally be.
 
Lursa said:
Interesting question and I havent looked into the law or precedent here. Dont know what they are.

However *IMO*, the non-custodial parent of the child (minor or not) should pay child support. If a minor, then his or her parents should be held accountable for payments until he or she is 18.

OTOH, the grandparents (of the custodial parent/their child) are still responsible for housing and caring for their minor child as they would normally be.
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How can a minor possibly pay child support though? There are many states where 14 and 15 year olds cannot get jobs (beyond chore-like jobs) and they have to be in school. And they are usually limited to working only certain hours as well. Therefore, their earning potential is going to be probably less than even $100 a month when it comes to child support. Which would then leave most of the burden on the maternal grandparents (assuming the mother is around the same age) or taxpayers. Even 16 year olds, who have a little better earning potential, are still highly limited. And dropping out of school for either would only compound problems with such a situation. I can certainly see the argument that their parents should be responsible to at least a degree until they are adults. It is certainly a very unfair situation, but it does go to the needs of the child and whether the taxpayers should face a burden before family does or which family should face what percentage of the burden.
 
roguenuke said:
How can a minor possibly pay child support though? There are many states where 14 and 15 year olds cannot get jobs (beyond chore-like jobs) and they have to be in school. And they are usually limited to working only certain hours as well. Therefore, their earning potential is going to be probably less than even $100 a month when it comes to child support. Which would then leave most of the burden on the maternal grandparents (assuming the mother is around the same age) or taxpayers. Even 16 year olds, who have a little better earning potential, are still highly limited. And dropping out of school for either would only compound problems with such a situation. I can certainly see the argument that their parents should be responsible to at least a degree until they are adults. It is certainly a very unfair situation, but it does go to the needs of the child and whether the taxpayers should face a burden before family does or which family should face what percentage of the burden.
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I wrote that the parents should be responsible until 18. IMO that's part of parenting too then. I know parents that have been sued and lost almost everything because of car accidents their kids (driving) cause. That's just another example. It certainly doesnt seem fair to the parents.

And yes...unfortunate and somewhat unfair. It makes for a tough start for young people. It always has and that is one reason that we, as a society, teach that it's better to wait. To wait to have sex, to use birth control, to wait until you are financially stable, etc

But historically, that has limited effectiveness...still worthwhile IMO tho.
 
Lursa said:
I wrote that the parents should be responsible until 18. IMO that's part of parenting too then. I know parents that have been sued and lost almost everything because of car accidents their kids (driving) cause. That's just another example. It certainly doesnt seem fair to the parents.

And yes...unfortunate and somewhat unfair. It makes for a tough start for young people. It always has and that is one reason that we, as a society, teach that it's better to wait. To wait to have sex, to use birth control, to wait until you are financially stable, etc

But historically, that has limited effectiveness...still worthwhile IMO tho.
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I do understand the issues here, but just see how the paternal grandparents could hold some of the financial responsibility if their son was not old enough in the same way that many times maternal grandparents end up taking on a lot of the responsibility (financially) in such situations where their daughter has a child as a teenager. Some states do hold paternal grandparents responsible for child support if the father is a minor, others don't. I can easily see the many sides of this though.
 
roguenuke said:
I do understand the issues here, but just see how the paternal grandparents could hold some of the financial responsibility if their son was not old enough in the same way that many times maternal grandparents end up taking on a lot of the responsibility (financially) in such situations where their daughter has a child as a teenager. Some states do hold paternal grandparents responsible for child support if the father is a minor, others don't. I can easily see the many sides of this though.
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I think I was thinking the same thing. But find your post unclear.
 
SDET said:
I am specifically referring to a man paying for kids that are not his? In a related topic: Should grandparents be on the hook for child support when a minor produces a child?
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Nope. Unless he legally adopts them he;s not responsible for their care after a separation.

And no.

Why do you ask?
 
jet57 said:
Nope. Unless he legally adopts them he;s not responsible for their care after a separation.

And no.

Why do you ask?
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Watching Youtube videos. Also, I'm big into risk mitigation. I think of everything that could go wrong in life and at least be aware of it if not prepared for it.
 
SDET said:
Watching Youtube videos. Also, I'm big into risk mitigation. I think of everything that could go wrong in life and at least be aware of it if not prepared for it.
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You could die one day. Do you go outside or put knives in your toaster?
 
jet57 said:
You could die one day. Do you go outside or put knives in your toaster?
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I buy life insurance, avoid carbs, try to keep weight down, limit sugar, drive carefully and much more. In the past, when I put my life at risk, it was because the risk was worth it, for example, the time I went home with a smoking hot waitress at a lunch counter in Rio de Janeiro and she lived in a very dangerous slum. She made it worth my while.
 
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