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Howard the Duck said:
I'm sorry, I'm new here. I apologize for stumbling on the private forum.

My bad.
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Not a private forum.

Just a little clue. Camlok has been slamming the USA for months on end to include hyperbole and lies. He has been asked a gazillion times for his location since he is filled with plenty of vitriol and almost zero knowledge of actual history beyond a quick Google search of various CT sites....

That lack of knowledge prompts the question.

I am clear about where I (roughly) am as are many posters.
 
Fledermaus said:
Not a private forum.

Just a little clue. Camlok has been slamming the USA for months on end to include hyperbole and lies. He has been asked a gazillion times for his location since he is filled with plenty of vitriol and almost zero knowledge of actual history beyond a quick Google search of various CT sites....

That lack of knowledge prompts the question.

I am clear about where I (roughly) am as are many posters.
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To me, the challenge of posting on forums such as this is the acceptance and recognition of the reality that the other poster might disagree with you. Worse, the odds of anyone changing another poster's opinion approaches zero. It doesn't matter how good you are, or even how right you are.

So struggling to win internet arguments is pointless. Why do we do it?

What I am looking for is a variety of opinions. Hopefully in a civil environment. I want to hear yours. I want to express mine.

If no blood is spilled? Excellent.

If he wants you to know where he lives he'll tell you. If he is like me? He won't.

Don't take it personally.

I've enjoyed talking with you.


Btw. I didn't like what he did. But I'm a big fan of BLM.
 
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ALTOY459 said:
makes sense, ive read that hiphop has greatly influenced youth and is making things worse in poorer communities because of the promotion of negative stuff
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I believe that's true. And I no longer hear white liberals claiming that rap music doesn't negatively affect society anymore. Even they've caught on.
 
Howard the Duck said:
To me, the challenge of posting on forums such as this is the acceptance and recognition of the reality that the other poster might disagree with you. Worse, the odds of anyone changing another poster's opinion approaches zero. It doesn't matter how good you are, or even how right you are.

So struggling to win internet arguments is pointless. Why do we do it?

What I am looking for is a variety of opinions. Hopefully in a civil environment. I want to hear yours. I want to express mine.

If no blood is spilled? Excellent.

If he wants you to know where he lives he'll tell you. If he is like me? He won't.

Don't take it personally.

I've enjoyed talking with you.


Btw. I didn't like what he did. But I'm a big fan of BLM.
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The thrill of the chase. ;)
 
truthatallcost said:
I believe that's true. And I no longer hear white liberals claiming that rap music doesn't negatively affect society anymore. Even they've caught on.
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People LOVE to deny the influence music has lol
 
Originally Posted by Howard the Duck View Post
Why should it matter?

Fledermaus said:
Why is this your concern?

A - > B conversation.

C your way out of it.
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Conservatives don't like it when people who can think rationally see thru their BS.
 
camlok said:
Originally Posted by Howard the Duck View Post
Why should it matter?

Conservatives don't like it when people who can think rationally see thru their BS.
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Conservatives, liberals and fence sitters don't like it when people who can't think rationally spew BS.

You run from the question.

Why is that?
 
Napoleon said:
Sorry, I’m too busy processing why it is this generation is so mentally and emotionally unstable that we have things called microagressions to measure their boo boos on the Planck scale and they can’t make it through the day without a parade of self-flagellating white people. How it is that generations strong enough to survive slavery and the Jim Crow South produced descendants who can’t survive the random eye movement of a stranger is one of the great mysteries of the cosmos.
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Is this your "explanation" for why it's okay for the US to continue its racist past? You are the folks who crow mightily about how Lincoln was such a great man, freeing the slaves when he did what he did as a war measure, when he was as racist as any in the US. Americans had to be dragged, kicking and screaming, into a sensible, compassionate human response to treating Blacks, Chinese, Japanese, ..., they certainly didn't push for it themselves.
 
camlok said:
Is this your "explanation" for why it's okay for the US to continue its racist past?
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Who said it is okay for the US to continue its racist past?

camlok said:
You are the folks who crow mightily about how Lincoln was such a great man, freeing the slaves when he did what he did as a war measure, when he was as racist as any in the US. Americans had to be dragged, kicking and screaming, into a sensible, compassionate human response to treating Blacks, Chinese, Japanese, ..., they certainly didn't push for it themselves.
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Tell us where your utopia is that is so advanced they have eschewed racism....

Lincoln freed the slaves in the rebellious states... True. And had he lived he likely would have been the one freeing them universally.

"Whenever I hear any one arguing for slavery I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally."
 
camlok said:
Is this your "explanation" for why it's okay for the US to continue its racist past? You are the folks who crow mightily about how Lincoln was such a great man, freeing the slaves when he did what he did as a war measure, when he was as racist as any in the US. Americans had to be dragged, kicking and screaming, into a sensible, compassionate human response to treating Blacks, Chinese, Japanese, ..., they certainly didn't push for it themselves.
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No, it’s my dismissal of the notion of deterministic racism as the bs it is. Asian Americans and African immigrants don’t have these problems. Domestically born and raised blacks are the squeaky wheel who set low expectations for themselves and try to pin the consequences of poor life choices on perceived racism. Take this gem of a human being for instance:





A single mom. No job. Demanding “somebody needs to be held accountable and they need to pay” for the 15 children she had out of wedlock. Not her of course. Quintisential domestic black America - make profoundly bad decisions and when your life becomes a dumpster fire it’s always someone else’s fault.
 
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Napoleon said:
No, it’s my dismissal of the notion of deterministic racism as the bs it is. Asian Americans and African immigrants don’t have these problems. .
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Asian Americans and African immigrants never had two centuries of slavery and extreme white racism to deal with. They had loving families who could help them thru a virulent racist USA.

Your response illustrates a less than academic approach to these issues. It seems to illustrate a defense mechanism of many who participated in cultural genocides.

How Slavery’s Legacy Affects the Mental Health of Black Americans
By ALMA CARTEN
July 27, 2015
On July 22, in announcing the federal indictment of Charleston killer Dylann Roof, Attorney General Loretta Lynch commented that the expression of forgiveness offered by the victims’ families is “an incredible lesson and message for us all.”

Forgiveness and grace are, indeed, hallmarks of the Black Church.

Since slavery, the church has been a formidable force for the survival of blacks in an America still grappling with the residual effects of white supremacy.

This was eloquently illustrated in the aftermath of the Charleston church massacre. Americans rightly stood in awe of the bereaved families’ laudable demonstration of God’s grace in action.


https://newrepublic.com/article/122378/how-slaverys-legacy-affects-mental-health-black-americans
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camlok said:
Asian Americans and African immigrants never had two centuries of slavery and extreme white racism to deal with. They had loving families who could help them thru a virulent racist USA
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You have no idea what you’re talking about. Many African immigrants come from places where they have no choice but to live in primitive conditions because of corrupt and shockingly poor governance. They come from places where a machete wielding sack of human debris could pop out of the bush at any time and carry them off to a modern day slave market where they’re sold for $400 a head or doomed to live the rest of their days as a doped up sex slave. Or chop them up where they stand as collateral damage in a tribal or religious civil war. But they come to the United States and they thrive here despite that very real trauma.

There are no such conditions anywhere in the United States but their comparatively privileged domestic black brethren do no such thing. Instead they go paging through history they never witnessed or experienced looking for transparently stupid excuses for dropping out of high school, not keeping their fly zipped, etc. Because, like Miss Adams said in the interview above, someone else needs to be held accountable and pay for their folly.
 
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NonoBadDog said:
You can thank the Democrats for slavery. Lincoln was a Republican. You were hoodwinked.



Lyndon Johnson was a civil rights hero. But also a racist. | MSNBC
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Another person who seriously does not understand the difference between Party leans from the past as related to current Party leans. Maybe if you worried less about whether there is an R or D next to someone's name and more about their actual positions, rather in the past or now, then things wouldn't be so partisan between everyone.

Democrats of the past were different from Democrats now, the same goes for Republicans.
 
roguenuke said:
Another person who seriously does not understand the difference between Party leans from the past as related to current Party leans. Maybe if you worried less about whether there is an R or D next to someone's name and more about their actual positions, rather in the past or now, then things wouldn't be so partisan between everyone.

Democrats of the past were different from Democrats now, the same goes for Republicans.
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Whatever. You too have been hoodwinked oh rabid partisan one.
 
NonoBadDog said:
Whatever. You too have been hoodwinked oh rabid partisan one.
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I'm not partisan. I'm pointing out that things change. I don't care what a person's party is, only what their stances on issues are.
 
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