Coonecticut troopers conspire to frame 2nd Amendment auditor.

The video speaks for itself.
The officers don't like 2nd Amendment auditors it would seem.
Do the police generally support the 2nd or not?

RogueWarrior said:

The video speaks for itself.
The officers don't like 2nd Amendment auditors it would seem.
Do the police generally support the 2nd or not?

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Fix the video link- does not show until one hits posts a reply - copied and pasted the video so it shows

RogueWarrior said:

The video speaks for itself.
The officers don't like 2nd Amendment auditors it would seem.
Do the police generally support the 2nd or not?

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"We gotta cover our ass"... "we gotta give him something".... "and then we claim that, um, in backup, we had multiple people, um, they didn't want to stay and give us a statement, so we just took our own course of action"....



How much of this **** happens that doesn't get recorded? The only reason the public reality is not that this man was walking around waving a gun recklessly is that these were cops of the Keystone variety, who managed to record themselves framing a citizen.

How many officers are lauded for "X decades in public service" but who actually behaved like these guys, and we just never knew about it (other than from the mouths of the people receiving the abuse, who were ignored because they're "criminals")?

At a certain point, suspicion as the starting position rather than trust and awe starts making sense....

Mr Person said:

"We gotta cover our ass"... "we gotta give him something".... "and then we claim that, um, in backup, we had multiple people, um, they didn't want to stay and give us a statement, so we just took our own course of action"....



How much of this **** happens that doesn't get recorded? The only reason the public reality is not that this man was walking around waving a gun recklessly is that these were cops of the Keystone variety, who managed to record themselves framing a citizen.

How many officers are lauded for "X decades in public service" but who actually behaved like these guys, and we just never knew about it (well other than from the mouths of the people receiving the abuse, who were ignored because they're "criminals")?

At a certain point, suspicion as the starting position rather than trust and awe starts making sense....

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Calamity says its perfectly okay to lie to "criminals"

"In a complaint filed with the U.S. District Court for the District of Connecticut, the ACLU-CT contends that three state police troopers illegally retaliated against and interfered with a protester by searching and detaining him, confiscating his camera, and charging him with fabricated criminal infractions."

https://www.acluct.org/en/cases/picard-v-torneo-jacobi-barone


https://www.acluct.org/sites/default/files/wysiwyg/acluct_picard-v.-torneo-jacobi-barone-complaint.pdf

I would say they have a pretty good case!!! depending on the jury..

I would venture that this happens quite frequently..

To me cops are to be treated like a rattle snake..

Avoid at all cost.
Don't annoy them
Show them as much respect as is needed to get out of the situation.
Don't pi$$ them off!!

djl

Mr Person said:

"We gotta cover our ass"... "we gotta give him something".... "and then we claim that, um, in backup, we had multiple people, um, they didn't want to stay and give us a statement, so we just took our own course of action"....



How much of this **** happens that doesn't get recorded? The only reason the public reality is not that this man was walking around waving a gun recklessly is that these were cops of the Keystone variety, who managed to record themselves framing a citizen.

How many officers are lauded for "X decades in public service" but who actually behaved like these guys, and we just never knew about it (other than from the mouths of the people receiving the abuse, who were ignored because they're "criminals")?

At a certain point, suspicion as the starting position rather than trust and awe starts making sense....

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Cops are generally assholes. Honestly.

bmr528 said:

I would say they have a pretty good case!!! depending on the jury..

I would venture that this happens quite frequently..

To me cops are to be treated like a rattle snake..

Avoid at all cost.
Don't annoy them
Show them as much respect as is needed to get out of the situation.
Don't pi$$ them off!!

djl

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Which is generally true, and also a terrible reflection on the alleged "land of the brave, home of the free"....

Connecticut State Troopers Exonerated Following Controversial Videotaped Arrest - Hartford Courant

Interesting claims and counter claims

There is an uncomfortably high number of people who are bad at their jobs, in all professions. There is the Peter Principle, of course, but there is also plain ol' human imperfection. People in ALL occupations make mistakes quite often. However, managers feel cheated to have to calculate for employee mistakes and they demand, if not perfection, the logistical appearance of it. The "I"s must be dotted and the "t"s crossed and quotas met. This forces the employees to cover their asses by whatever means. Each job requires its own situational treachery to remain fluid. I don't think the police are any different and, possibly, demonstrate that idea on steroids. The military structure and public scrutiny create a ceaseless, demanding presence squeezing production from the police that too often manifests as tyranny for citizens.

The cops do what they have to do. Some times they bend the rules to cover their asses and some times to save others. They're wrong when they're wrong and right when they're right but life is unfair and rewards and punishments often remain undelivered. Let's not pretend, though, that the system doesn't contribute to the problems AND the successes. This is, ultimately, what we've created for ourselves but videos like this one can make us more aware of the problems, presumably to fix them.