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    Re: Three Ways Courts Screw the Innocent Into Pleading Guilty

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    lol...yeah that kind of is the whole idea of a peal bargain.
    "peal" bargain?
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    Re: Three Ways Courts Screw the Innocent Into Pleading Guilty

    Quote Originally Posted by Vox View Post
    The rest of us get screwed when vicious thugs selling drugs are allowed to plea bargain and get a slap on the wrist instead of prison.
    We are all screwed when rogue CIA agents trafficking in drugs, for more than half a century now, never even get charged for what they do.

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    Re: Three Ways Courts Screw the Innocent Into Pleading Guilty

    Quote Originally Posted by Thoreau72 View Post
    We are all screwed when rogue CIA agents trafficking in drugs, for more than half a century now, never even get charged for what they do.
    While there may have been a few of those (citation?) the number is insignificant compared to the numbers of vicious thugs selling drugs are allowed to plea bargain and get a slap on the wrist instead of prison.
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    Re: Three Ways Courts Screw the Innocent Into Pleading Guilty

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    “But white people and black lives matters and blah blah blah.”

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    Money is what matters here. Not race. Not religion. A poor white guy is no different than a poor black one. They both will get screwed.
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    Re: Three Ways Courts Screw the Innocent Into Pleading Guilty

    Quote Originally Posted by Vox View Post
    While there may have been a few of those (citation?) the number is insignificant compared to the numbers of vicious thugs selling drugs are allowed to plea bargain and get a slap on the wrist instead of prison.
    Provide your citation that there have only been a few.

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    Re: Three Ways Courts Screw the Innocent Into Pleading Guilty

    Quote Originally Posted by Vox View Post
    While there may have been a few of those (citation?) the number is insignificant compared to the numbers of vicious thugs selling drugs are allowed to plea bargain and get a slap on the wrist instead of prison.
    Oh yes, there have been "a few" of them, going back to when the Agency was created by statute. Alfred McCoy has written extensively about it, and Gary Webb documented it in his work with the San Jose newspaper. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/marc-...b_6024530.html

    The CIA has been in the dope business since it began. I found out myself in 1970. Webb's book Dark Alliance blew it all up. Congress conducted hearings and a big stink was raised, and on the same Friday afternoon they announced the Monica Lewinsky scandal, the CIA announced at a press conference that yes, Gary Webb was essentially correct.

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    Re: Three Ways Courts Screw the Innocent Into Pleading Guilty

    OK, who has a better judiciary system to propose, in detail? Who?

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    Re: Three Ways Courts Screw the Innocent Into Pleading Guilty

    Quote Originally Posted by OldFatGuy View Post
    OK, who has a better judiciary system to propose, in detail? Who?

    Whiners whine never to accomplish anything else.
    I do.

    Lets start with decriminalizing a lot of drug offenses.. so that public defenders don't have the volume of people they have to defend that have minor.. piddling crimes.

    Lets start with requiring states to adequately fund the public defenders office.

    Lets start with ending private prison systems which lobby for laws and even buy judges and prosecutors to fill their "beds'.

    Lets start with a justice system that is just as concerned about exonerating the innocent as convicting the guilty.
    There are people that new technology or evidence has exonerated and yet the justice system drags its feet letting them out. and until that time.. get rid of the death penalty.
    So we should put you down as supporting putting GPS trackers in everyone to "save lives"?
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