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How do you interpret this?

MovingPictures said:
You read it again.

She admitted to stealing at least some of the money that was missing.
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I did read it. You claimed they proved she stole tens of thousands of dollars. She admitted to three. You lied.
 
holbritter said:
What would call someone with a meth pipe running around with a toy gun? A upstanding citizen?
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Try this: violent criminal.

You don't have to dehumanize all people that are addicts, as if they all do things like this guy. Some of us have family that suffer from the disease.
 
holbritter said:
I did read it. You claimed they proved she stole tens of thousands of dollars. She admitted to three. You lied.
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It's obvious to anybody with sense that she stole all the money.

It should have been easy as pie to send this lady away with the available facts, but either the bank or cops dropped the ball. And regardless, she is on the record as a thief, One that should have been sent to jail for at least a month or two, which would have happened if the races were changed, and you know it.
 
holbritter said:
My first reaction was that the time doesn't fit the crime type of thought. When I read the stories, I changed my mind. Since the guy actually got jail time for the drugs, not so much the toy gun, and the woman didn't 'rob a bank' like you think of when you hear bank theft.
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you mean he got jail time for a pipe and drug residue . . being thats all we know jail doesnt seem fitting at all . . . i could of had that happened to me one time. Found what i think was a meth pipe, guess it could have been crack pipe also at the softball field/playgrounds. I picked it up with a kleenex, put it in my pocket and threw it away at home because i didnt want it anywhere near the field. maybe not the smartest thing but i wasnt leaving it where the kids play. anyway if i got trouble with the law that day somehow, i would of had a pipe and drug residue in my pocket. do you think i should of got jail time if that happened? now there could be OTHER factors but we dont know them because the article sucks lol, all we can go by is what we know. so would jail for me have fit?

as for the woman nobody should ever think robbery when they read theft, that too is illogical since they are completely different. only robbery makes me think robbery. . car theft doesnt make me think robbery robbery makes me think robbery. Anyway in pa it would be grand theft, A third-degree felony punishable by a maximum sentence of seven years and a $15,000 fine. . probation seems VERY light.

now i personally dont buy into what other people said here about race (though it COULD be a factor i just done see evidence of such) but i do think there is something else at play. I think its male/drugs vs a female/white collar crime thing. again no evidence in these articles for that but in life, imo i believe that to be the case alot . . . we punish what we consider "lowlife crimes" why more harshly than white collar crimes that actually hurt our society much worse at times (not necessarily in this case) and i think that is wrong.
 
MovingPictures said:
It's obvious to anybody with sense that she stole all the money.

It should have been easy as pie to send this lady away with the available facts, but either the bank or cops dropped the ball. And regardless, she is on the record as a thief, One that should have been sent to jail for at least a month or two, which would have happened if the races were changed, and you know it.
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Keep moving those goalposts....it's good excercise.
 
holbritter said:
You just did the same thing in a way.

If you put the drug possession first in your sentence, it doesn't seem so unfair. In fact, that's what most of his sentence was for, not the disturbing the peace.
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Disturbing the peace, in this case, making people think they're about to get shot, is worse that a half gram of meth, or whatever he was busted with, IMO.
 
regarding toy guns: My, how things have changed. Flash back to the late '70's. I was an elementary school administrator at a rural school. Next to the school was a country road, and on the other side of the road an empty field. I saw a couple of yahoos in the field, maybe 200 feet from a playground full of kids, showing off a pistol.

I called the sheriff, and was told that the field was not off limits for shooting, so the guys weren't doing anything illegal.

It turned out to be a BB gun anyway.

Imagine what would happen today in a similar situation.
 
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