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Proposal For Dealing With Would Be Sexual Offenders

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This is common sense but by far most of the sexual offenders, people that rape, grope, make lewd comments, ect. are men. Their victims consist mostly of women, most of the time when a sexual crime or offense is being committed its a man and his victim is a woman but sometimes men will commit sexual offenses against other men. Anyway, sexual crime is a serious problem and should not be taken lightly. So I propose this, if a sexual crime consists of inappropriate touching, touching or trying to touch any part of the body that's covered by the bathing suit, if the offender is a man, regardless of if the would be victim is male or female, the would be victim should be allowed to use any level of force he or she wants to in order to stop the offender. The use of force continuum should not come into play in situations like this. To say that the would be victim should only be allowed to use a level of force in proportion to their attacker would be to degrade the seriousness of sexual crimes.
 
DebateChallenge said:
This is common sense but by far most of the sexual offenders, people that rape, grope, make lewd comments, ect. are men. Their victims consist mostly of women, most of the time when a sexual crime or offense is being committed its a man and his victim is a woman but sometimes men will commit sexual offenses against other men. Anyway, sexual crime is a serious problem and should not be taken lightly. So I propose this, if a sexual crime consists of inappropriate touching, touching or trying to touch any part of the body that's covered by the bathing suit, if the offender is a man, regardless of if the would be victim is male or female, the would be victim should be allowed to use any level of force he or she wants to in order to stop the offender. The use of force continuum should not come into play in situations like this. To say that the would be victim should only be allowed to use a level of force in proportion to their attacker would be to degrade the seriousness of sexual crimes.
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So if a man pats a female on the butt she can kill him?
 
DebateChallenge said:
This is common sense but by far most of the sexual offenders, people that rape, grope, make lewd comments, ect. are men. Their victims consist mostly of women, most of the time when a sexual crime or offense is being committed its a man and his victim is a woman but sometimes men will commit sexual offenses against other men. Anyway, sexual crime is a serious problem and should not be taken lightly. So I propose this, if a sexual crime consists of inappropriate touching, touching or trying to touch any part of the body that's covered by the bathing suit, if the offender is a man, regardless of if the would be victim is male or female, the would be victim should be allowed to use any level of force he or she wants to in order to stop the offender. The use of force continuum should not come into play in situations like this. To say that the would be victim should only be allowed to use a level of force in proportion to their attacker would be to degrade the seriousness of sexual crimes.
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So if someone gropes you then you should be able to shoot them in the face?
 
DebateChallenge said:
This is common sense but by far most of the sexual offenders, people that rape, grope, make lewd comments, ect. are men. Their victims consist mostly of women, most of the time when a sexual crime or offense is being committed its a man and his victim is a woman but sometimes men will commit sexual offenses against other men. Anyway, sexual crime is a serious problem and should not be taken lightly. So I propose this, if a sexual crime consists of inappropriate touching, touching or trying to touch any part of the body that's covered by the bathing suit, if the offender is a man, regardless of if the would be victim is male or female, the would be victim should be allowed to use any level of force he or she wants to in order to stop the offender. The use of force continuum should not come into play in situations like this. To say that the would be victim should only be allowed to use a level of force in proportion to their attacker would be to degrade the seriousness of sexual crimes.
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Your entire premise is flawed. Women abuse men at alarming rates. Men do not have a monopoly on abuse -- sexual or otherwise.
 
haymarket said:
So if a man pats a female on the butt she can kill him?
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Let's keep this gender neutral. If a man can kill a woman for a pat on the butt (or a hug or kiss?) then certainly he could then spare her life and just have forced sex with her at gunpoint.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Let's keep this gender neutral. If a man can kill a woman for a pat on the butt (or a hug or kiss?) then certainly he could then spare her life and just have forced sex with her at gunpoint.
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You should put in a few winking & smiling emoticons when you do that. :roll:;)
 
haymarket said:
You should put in a few winking & smiling emoticons when you do that. :roll:;)
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I have been told that I did that too often and that my sarcasm was obvious without it.
 
GhostlyJoe said:
Your entire premise is flawed. Women abuse men at alarming rates. Men do not have a monopoly on abuse -- sexual or otherwise.
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Women sexually abuse their male audience on TV by presenting fictional scenes as reality. Then a guy tries it on a girl and he’s on CNN.
 
Crovax said:
So if someone gropes you then you should be able to shoot them in the face?
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No, but if its a grown man I shouldn't get in trouble for hitting him. A greater level of force should be allowed to be used against a male assailant than against a female assailant provided no weapons are used. The exception to this would be if the assailant is male and the victim is female she should be allowed to use weapons. But if grown man goes up against me and I fight back without using weapons I, as a grown man myself, shouldn't get in trouble. A grown man equals another grown man and bare hands equals bare hands.
 
GhostlyJoe said:
Your entire premise is flawed. Women abuse men at alarming rates. Men do not have a monopoly on abuse -- sexual or otherwise.
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By far most of the people who commit violent crimes and most of the people who commit sexual crimes, most of the people who commit crime in general are men. Look at the prisons, by far its mostly men that make up the prison population.
 
DebateChallenge said:
If its without her consent she should be allowed to at least slug him.
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That is far far far more reasonable than authorizing a citizen to administer the death penalty for such an offense.
 
haymarket said:
That is far far far more reasonable than authorizing a citizen to administer the death penalty for such an offense.
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Well she should be allowed to pepper spray or taze him and then if he's still coming at her she should be allowed to shoot him with the intent to stop, not to kill.

And if she's got a husband or boyfriend nearby he should not get in trouble for slugging the offender.
 
DebateChallenge said:
This is common sense but by far most of the sexual offenders, people that rape, grope, make lewd comments, ect. are men. Their victims consist mostly of women, most of the time when a sexual crime or offense is being committed its a man and his victim is a woman but sometimes men will commit sexual offenses against other men. Anyway, sexual crime is a serious problem and should not be taken lightly. So I propose this, if a sexual crime consists of inappropriate touching, touching or trying to touch any part of the body that's covered by the bathing suit, if the offender is a man, regardless of if the would be victim is male or female, the would be victim should be allowed to use any level of force he or she wants to in order to stop the offender. The use of force continuum should not come into play in situations like this. To say that the would be victim should only be allowed to use a level of force in proportion to their attacker would be to degrade the seriousness of sexual crimes.
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Always be wary when a thread starts out with these words.
 
Wanda hates her boss, has gotten two poor employment reviews from him, but can't afford to quit her job. Wanda's boss has informed Wanda that her work is wanting and she is on probation while her employment is under review. Wanda walks by while her boss backs out of another employee's office while he is finishing a conversation with him. His buttocks inadvertently makes contact with Wanda's left lower arm and her left hip and buttocks as he backs out and she walks by in the narrow hallway outside the office. Wanda, seeing her golden opportunity screams in alarm and pulls out a taser which she has been waiting to use, electrocutes her boss and he soon dies of cardiac arrest and respiratory failure. When the police arrive she defends her actions by claiming that her boss sexually harassed her by knowingly thrusting his buttocks into her as she passed in the hallway. Security camera footage confirms that the boss did indeed back his buttocks into Wanda and was seen nervously laughing just before she tasered him. She is not charged. This is what could happen if DebateChallenge's legal doctrine were enacted.

Back to the drawing board old bean!

Cheers.
Evilroddy.
 
Evilroddy said:
Wanda hates her boss, has gotten two poor employment reviews from him, but can't afford to quit her job. Wanda's boss has informed Wanda that her work is wanting and she is on probation while her employment is under review. Wanda walks by while her boss backs out of another employee's office while he is finishing a conversation with him. His buttocks inadvertently makes contact with Wanda's left lower arm and her left hip and buttocks as he backs out and she walks by in the narrow hallway outside the office. Wanda, seeing her golden opportunity screams in alarm and pulls out a taser which she has been waiting to use, electrocutes her boss and he soon dies of cardiac arrest and respiratory failure. When the police arrive she defends her actions by claiming that her boss sexually harassed her by knowingly thrusting his buttocks into her as she passed in the hallway. Security camera footage confirms that the boss did indeed back his buttocks into Wanda and was seen nervously laughing just before she tasered him. She is not charged. This is what could happen if DebateChallenge's legal doctrine were enacted.

Back to the drawing board old bean!

Cheers.
Evilroddy.
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probably happens....

get this.. In our company policy manual, Under "sexual harassment" we cannot say to a co worker,, "That's a pretty shirt/blouse etc".. We have to say, "You look very professional today" Needless to say, I did not take part in the ugly christmas sweater contest as I did not know the "proper" lingo to tell a co worker "That's one ugly sweater"

djl
 
DebateChallenge said:
If its without her consent she should be allowed to at least slug him.
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That misses the objective of law enforcement for profit. To maximize revenue, both get charged with a crime.
 
DebateChallenge said:
By far most of the people who commit violent crimes and most of the people who commit sexual crimes, most of the people who commit crime in general are men. Look at the prisons, by far its mostly men that make up the prison population.
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You've gone this far in mentioning prison populations. Why not go the whole nine yards and mention BLACK men? You're already in for a Penny. You may as well go in for a Pound.
 
DebateChallenge said:
This is common sense but by far most of the sexual offenders, people that rape, grope, make lewd comments, ect. are men. Their victims consist mostly of women, most of the time when a sexual crime or offense is being committed its a man and his victim is a woman but sometimes men will commit sexual offenses against other men. Anyway, sexual crime is a serious problem and should not be taken lightly. So I propose this, if a sexual crime consists of inappropriate touching, touching or trying to touch any part of the body that's covered by the bathing suit, if the offender is a man, regardless of if the would be victim is male or female, the would be victim should be allowed to use any level of force he or she wants to in order to stop the offender. The use of force continuum should not come into play in situations like this. To say that the would be victim should only be allowed to use a level of force in proportion to their attacker would be to degrade the seriousness of sexual crimes.
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The US has about 2 million men in prison. Apparently you’ve failed to look at the prison statistics on men being raped by men and compare that with the “known/reported rapes committed by men against women in the civilian world. I think you’ll find the number of men who are raped daily/monthly/annually to be staggering.
 
SDET said:
You've gone this far in mentioning prison populations. Why not go the whole nine yards and mention BLACK men? You're already in for a Penny. You may as well go in for a Pound.
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I don't know the ratio of black people vs white people in prison but I do know that there is by far, by far, many more men in prison than women and this goes way beyond and race ratio.
 
Removable Mind said:
The US has about 2 million men in prison. Apparently you’ve failed to look at the prison statistics on men being raped by men and compare that with the “known/reported rapes committed by men against women in the civilian world. I think you’ll find the number of men who are raped daily/monthly/annually to be staggering.
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Yes you're right, men do get raped and perhaps more often than what's commonly believed. And its by other men.
 
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