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Murdered for Being Pregnant, Woman Pays Ultimate Price for Dating Wrong Guy

Thumper39 said:
Cause young women seem to enjoy rebelling with men who their parents wouldn't approve of.
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Stereotype much?

"Sweetie... don't date this kinda guy because in my years of experience, they can be serious trouble"

She thinks, "now I know how to really piss off my parents... I'll screw with my life just to anger them!!"


:lol:

Uh-huh.
 
truthatallcost said:
I've seen too many of these types of stories, where women from middle class backgrounds get involved with thug types, and end up deceased. If I ever have daughters, I'll definitely raise them to stay away from the wrong kind of guys. I hope they listen.
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I guess the story would not complete without you posting a pic of the black perp and the white vic. :roll:
 
Bodhisattva said:
Straw Man AND Red Herring... I said that he should have POST conception rights just like she does... I also said that you don't want to talk about that and I was correct. :lol:
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There is no way to have post conception rights. Can he control her uterus? No. Can she? yes. It's called biology.

You want something that doesnt exist and cannot. You want 'fair.' Too bad, biology made it 'not fair.' It's not fair that women get stuck with being pregnant. It's not fair that women can NEVER have sex without consequences (unless surgically sterilized).

For men to decide AFTER conception, then it takes away taxpayer rights...why should we pay? How do you justify that? The man and woman had a choice. We had none.

What you want is sex without consequences. It has never existed for women. So how is it unfair that now it doesnt exist for men either? How is that 'unfair?'
 
Lursa said:
There is no way to have post conception rights. Can he control her uterus? No. Can she? yes. It's called biology.

You want something that doesnt exist and cannot. You want 'fair.' Too bad, biology made it 'not fair.' It's not fair that women get stuck with being pregnant. It's not fair that women can NEVER have sex without consequences (unless surgically sterilized).
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This is how you lost to jaegar19, by the way. You simply don't understand the argument and then you start making this Straw Man arguments.

I am talking about "rights" and you counter with "biology"... :roll:

For men to decide AFTER conception, then the take away taxpayer rights...why should we pay? How do you justify that? The man and woman had a choice. We had none.
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Wrong. Post conception rights, or opt outs, do not concern the taxpayer any more than if he stayed. She can have the baby or she can abort. Simple as that.

What you want is sex without consequences. It has never existed for women. So how is it unfair that now it doesnt exist for men either? How is that 'unfair?'
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"Consequences" is not an argument. Literally EVERYTHING has a consequence.

If she can abort to get out of being a parent then he should be able to opt out as well.

That is fair to both, equally.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Stereotype much?

"Sweetie... don't date this kinda guy because in my years of experience, they can be serious trouble"

She thinks, "now I know how to really piss off my parents... I'll screw with my life just to anger them!!"


:lol:

Uh-huh.
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Sometimes sterotypes are true. Both of my daughters went through that phase. And every woman I was with in my younger years did as well. Kids rebel in one way shape or form regardless of how well you raise them.
 
Thumper39 said:
Sometimes sterotypes are true. Both of my daughters went through that phase. And every woman I was with in my younger years did as well. Kids rebel in one way shape or form regardless of how well you raise them.
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Maybe I am lucky... mine rebels by reading with her headlamp after lights out.

...regardless, you said "sure fire" way to get her to do it. That simply is not true.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Maybe I am lucky... mine rebels by reading with her headlamp after lights out.

...regardless, you said "sure fire" way to get her to do it. That simply is not true.
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How old is she if ya don't mind my asking?
 
Bodhisattva said:
Yep. Look at these two... nothing about the murder but instead try to make a race thing about it. :roll:
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Look.....a poster ignoring the fact that the OP has a history of trying to promote racial tensions(here's a hint--- by "thug types" he meant minorities, rather than actual thugs.)

But I forgot......your precious ego is still bruised so you are desperate. Typical.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Almost 15...
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Ya still got several years yet then. The older of the two didn't start with it until she was almost 17. The younger started trying to piss me off with boyfriends when she was 12.

Hell I've met women who didn't start it until they were in their 20s and out of dad's house.
 
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Bucky said:
So, being black makes him a "thug type?"

The word "thug" is the new n-word for white people.
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First reply and you HAVE to bring race into the mix.
@Bucky It is because of people like you why racism will never end. How did you came to that conclusion from the OP? If you do not give a sensible answer, I know who the real racist is.

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Bodhisattva said:
This is how you lost to jaegar19, by the way. You simply don't understand the argument and then you start making this Straw Man arguments.

I am talking about "rights" and you counter with "biology"... :roll:



Wrong. Post conception rights, or opt outs, do not concern the taxpayer any more than if he stayed. She can have the baby or she can abort. Simple as that.



"Consequences" is not an argument. Literally EVERYTHING has a consequence.

If she can abort to get out of being a parent then he should be able to opt out as well.

That is fair to both, equally.
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It's not equal, ever. The expectation of such is juvenile. Biology is the reason it's not equal. As is the Constitution.

Sure, you can let men escape the consequences of their actions...but then someone else has to step up. And that's the taxpayer. If you think that is ok, then that is your view.

It is one that demeans men. It implies they cant control their actions....or dont want to...and then expect to get a pass when the risk *they fully are aware of* comes home to roost.

Fine...luckily the law doesnt recognize that. It seeks to protect the child, and then the taxpayer.

Men can thus whine all they want. And yes...sometimes lower themselves to avoid their consequences even further by murder. Still NEVER makes men right on this.
 
calamity said:
I guess the story would not complete without you posting a pic of the black perp and the white vic. :roll:
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Eye roll. Yah, only raysists pay attention to details. We should all be good boys & girls who don't possess the ability to spot patterns of criminal behavior.
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
Dude, where ya been? Murder has been the number one cause of death of pregnant women for literally as long as we've been studying it, surpassing even automotive deaths. We have had a problem in this country since day one with men not respecting women's reproductive agency.

But for some reason, you never noticed or cared until the one time you saw a case where a black guy killed a white woman. Gee, wonder why that is.

Save your faux outrage. If you actually gave a damn about women being murdered, you'd have been on this train decades ago. And this woman doesn't deserve to have her tragic end used as a cudgel for your disgusting quasi-political football game. If you're gonna dogwhistle this loudly, why don't you just come out and say what your real problem is and spare us the coy little games, eh?
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Care to back that with a link?
 
Thumper39 said:
Raising them that way is one surefire way to make sure those are the type of men they seek out.
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Bull****. I have 3 girls, and all 3 could not be more different. It's not a matter of how they were raised. It's a matter of personal choice by the girls. My girls have not always made the best choices, and the only thing I could do is advise them, and be there for them when they didn't take my advice. Had I told them, "No, you can't go out with that guy!" it would only serve to push her more towards him.

You raise your kids to the best of your ability, and hope that once they've flown the coop, you find that you've done a good job. But no matter how good a job you have done, you are still dealing with adults who have their own likes, their own dislikes, and make their own choices.
 
Superfly said:
Bull****. I have 3 girls, and all 3 could not be more different. It's not a matter of how they were raised. It's a matter of personal choice by the girls. My girls have not always made the best choices, and the only thing I could do is advise them, and be there for them when they didn't take my advice. Had I told them, "No, you can't go out with that guy!" it would only serve to push her more towards him.

You raise your kids to the best of your ability, and hope that once they've flown the coop, you find that you've done a good job. But no matter how good a job you have done, you are still dealing with adults who have their own likes, their own dislikes, and make their own choices.
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You do know that you just agreed with what I was saying don't you?


truthatallcost said:
How do you keep your daughter from dating guys like Donthe Lucas then?
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I didn't. Once they realized it wasn't irking me they got rid of them and found someone they actually wanted to be with.
 
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Lursa said:
It's not equal, ever. The expectation of such is juvenile. Biology is the reason it's not equal. As is the Constitution.

Sure, you can let men escape the consequences of their actions...but then someone else has to step up. And that's the taxpayer. If you think that is ok, then that is your view.

It is one that demeans men. It implies they cant control their actions....or dont want to...and then expect to get a pass when the risk *they fully are aware of* comes home to roost.

Fine...luckily the law doesnt recognize that. It seeks to protect the child, and then the taxpayer.

Men can thus whine all they want. And yes...sometimes lower themselves to avoid their consequences even further by murder. Still NEVER makes men right on this.
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:lol:

The level of illogical FAIL in Straw Mans, Red Herrings and Ad Homs is AMAZING.

:2wave:
 
Tigerace117 said:
Look.....a poster ignoring the fact that the OP has a history of trying to promote racial tensions(here's a hint--- by "thug types" he meant minorities, rather than actual thugs.)

But I forgot......your precious ego is still bruised so you are desperate. Typical.
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Straw Man.

Anything else or are logical fallacies the best your posts will offer?
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
Dude make an endless slew of explicitly racist and racially motivated posts for years, and then tells us we're crazy when we spot the obvious correspondence in the fact that out of all the thousands of men who've murdered their pregnant partners, he picks the one that appeals to his obvious, years-established racial bias? :confused:

I'm sorry, this gaslighting is not going to work on some of us. Not buying this coy bull****. Have some cajones and stand behind what your stances obviously are.
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Not everyone has been a member of this forum for years. Takes time to get to know different posters and their habits. Cut people a brake, eh?
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
Dude, where ya been? Murder has been the number one cause of death of pregnant women for literally as long as we've been studying it, surpassing even automotive deaths. We have had a problem in this country since day one with men not respecting women's reproductive agency.

But for some reason, you never noticed or cared until the one time you saw a case where a black guy killed a white woman. Gee, wonder why that is.

Save your faux outrage. If you actually gave a damn about women being murdered, you'd have been on this train decades ago. And this woman doesn't deserve to have her tragic end used as a cudgel for your disgusting quasi-political football game. If you're gonna dogwhistle this loudly, why don't you just come out and say what your real problem is and spare us the coy little games, eh?
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Great spiel, now can you use that same rant against every single democrat that wants to tout a victim of gun violence as a reason to get more strict gun control?

Or any other measure of the same use, that both the left & right are guilty of.
 
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