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Man says cops ordered him to cut off his dog’s head or go to jail

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Man says cops ordered him to cut off his dog?s head or go to jail | Miami Herald


In a video taken after the decapitation, Hollis and the other officer can be heard giving instructions to Goodwin’s girlfriend. Big Boy’s head was placed in a white plastic bag.

“She gonna place that into the bag and they got to freeze it,” Hollis said in the video. “That can be tested for rabies, OK?”

The woman told The Telegraph she cried as she drove the dog’s head to the health department at 7 p.m. that evening.
On Monday, Goodwin told The Telegraph that the officers offered him the option to call a veterinarian and pay to have the head removed. However, with three young children around Christmas time, money is tight.
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Dumb cops, rabies is more common in hot weather. Plus, if an animal really did have it, you would not want to handle it, because it is contagious. The whole animal probably needed to be triple garbage bagged with gloves and surgical mask on whoever handled it, then transported to the nearest teaching veterinary college, for testing. That's my opinion, as a farm girl. Or, as you say, maybe your animal control would do that.
 
I guess I would have gone to jail...

.....Then the judge and the world would have learned why I was in jail, for not cutting off my best friends head.
 
Jesus that is awful. I have never, ever even considered asking, let alone told, anyone to decapitate their own dog for rabies testing. I have had to put down a few dogs over the years as a deputy, but Animal Control always came out and took care of collecting the dog for examination. And the never cut the animal's head off. Someone needs to answer for that.
 
beerftw said:
I do not think that is sop anywhere, usually if rabies is that big a concern, animal control does the deed and sends it in for testing.
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Nope. I was a vet tech for 8 years and that is NOT SOP. If a dog bites some one the dog is quarantined at a vet's office, at owner's expense, for a period of time (I forget how long). If the dog is rabid then symptoms will show within that period. If symptoms show the dog is put down and the person is treated. If no symptoms show then everyone is good.

I have never heard of anything like this story.
 
Skeptic Bob said:
Nope. I was a vet tech for 8 years and that is NOT SOP. If a dog bites some one the dog is quarantined at a vet's office, at owner's expense, for a period of time (I forget how long). If the dog is rabid then symptoms will show within that period. If symptoms show the dog is put down and the person is treated. If no symptoms show then everyone is good.

I have never heard of anything like this story.
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We did the same thing on with regard to any dog that bit someone. The dog was quarantined by the owner and observed. Animal control would follow up the owner and provide a supplemental report on final disposition of the animal.
 
Skeptic Bob said:
Nope. I was a vet tech for 8 years and that is NOT SOP. If a dog bites some one the dog is quarantined at a vet's office, at owner's expense, for a period of time (I forget how long). If the dog is rabid then symptoms will show within that period. If symptoms show the dog is put down and the person is treated. If no symptoms show then everyone is good.

I have never heard of anything like this story.
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What's the procedure is the dog is already dead?
 
FreedomFromAll said:
I guess I would have gone to jail...

.....Then the judge and the world would have learned why I was in jail, for not cutting off my best friends head.
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They offered to take it to a vet to do it, but the guy said no. I wouldn't do it either. I'd have said yes, take it to the vet.
 
In our South Ga county, we have no animal control. A few years back the sheriff was serving a guy and when he entered the yard, unannounced, the family pit nipped, not bit, him. He shot the dog. He called a guy at the health dept, (who take care of a lot of things here). He came out and chopped off the dog's head with an axe and left the body there in the yard. There was a bit of a stink about it.
 
FreedomFromAll said:
I guess I would have gone to jail...

.....Then the judge and the world would have learned why I was in jail, for not cutting off my best friends head.
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I avoid some situations a hope others don't come up.

There is a point beyond which I will not be pushed.
 
I'd tell that mother****er to shove his dopey ass bowtie up his ass. Let him arrest me so I could sue the **** out of him and his department.
 
Skeptic Bob said:
No. No need to kill the dog. Just wait to see if it is symptomatic.
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No, I mean the cop shot the dog dead, so there is no quarantine then. What's the procedure if the dog is already dead?
 
holbritter said:
No, I mean the cop shot the dog dead, so there is no quarantine then. What's the procedure if the dog is already dead?
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Ah. Yes, if the dog is dead then the brain has to be examined. The animal does not need to be decapitated to do that. And certainly not by the owner.
 
FreedomFromAll said:
I guess I would have gone to jail...

.....Then the judge and the world would have learned why I was in jail, for not cutting off my best friends head.
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Yeah... I would have refused for that reason and because if the dog does have rabies cutting it's head off it can spread.

People usually get rabies from the bite of a rabid animal. It is also possible, but quite rare, that people may get rabies if infectious material from a rabid animal, such as saliva, gets directly into their eyes, nose, mouth, or a wound.

Scratches, abrasions, open wounds, or mucous membranes contaminated with saliva or other potentially infectious material (such as brain tissue) from a rabid animal constitute non-bite exposures. Occasionally reports of non-bite exposure are such that postexposure prophylaxis is given.

Inhalation of aerosolized rabies virus is also a potential non-bite route of exposure, but except for laboratory workers, most people won’t encounter an aerosol of rabies virus.

Other contact, such as petting a rabid animal or contact with the blood, urine or feces of a rabid animal, does not constitute an exposure.

https://www.cdc.gov/rabies/transmission/exposure.html
 
Skeptic Bob said:
Ah. Yes, if the dog is dead then the brain has to be examined. The animal does not need to be decapitated to do that. And certainly not by the owner.
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Ok, thanks. :)

It did say that they offered to take the dog to a vet, but the man said no. Would a vet charge the owner for that? I mean it sounds like a stupid question, but I have no idea when it comes to 'public health' rules or anything like that.
 
Lerxst said:
Jesus that is awful. I have never, ever even considered asking, let alone told, anyone to decapitate their own dog for rabies testing. I have had to put down a few dogs over the years as a deputy, but Animal Control always came out and took care of collecting the dog for examination. And the never cut the animal's head off. Someone needs to answer for that.
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No offense to cops but that one in particular sounded really kinda dumb... unless I am just biased due to his hillbilly like accent and whatever the hell regional dialect that was of broken English and anger...
 
Why would anyone, with the slightest bit of common sense, believe this story?

Police are never in a position to make this type of demand. County Public Health officials know that there is a protocol for bringing in samples to laboratories for forensic investigation, protocols designed to prevent taint or corruption of the evidence. If anything, public health officials would issue a directive to police to stay away from the evidence until such time as someone trained to properly gather the evidence is in place.

This isn't fake news, it is a BS story. The video was staged and has appeared on youtube and other sites long prior to this current claim. Same video images, different dubbed scripts.
 
beerftw said:
I do not think that is sop anywhere, usually if rabies is that big a concern, animal control does the deed and sends it in for testing.
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Normal procedure would be to quarantine the dog for ten lousy days. And before anyone says, “Yeah, but...” the CDC is very clear. In the history of the CDC and past records, no one has ever contracted rabies from a dog who’s been quarantined for ten days.

The dog was shot by the deputy after the dog allegedly lunged at him after biting a neighbor. So the dog was out of the owner’s control.

The cops did nothing wrong. The dog was already dead. If people can’t control their dogs, they have no business having dogs. Poor dog. That’s where MY head goes.
 
Skeptic Bob said:
Nope. I was a vet tech for 8 years and that is NOT SOP. If a dog bites some one the dog is quarantined at a vet's office, at owner's expense, for a period of time (I forget how long). If the dog is rabid then symptoms will show within that period. If symptoms show the dog is put down and the person is treated. If no symptoms show then everyone is good.

I have never heard of anything like this story.
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Quarantine makes sense if the animal shows no symptoms, and is alive, if the animal is alive and shows symptoms, it makes sense to treat the person as rabies is uncureable after the virus sets in, as well as put down the animal and test it. If the animal is dead let's say shot by police it makes sense to send the animal in for testing.

The way it comes out in the story makes no sense at all, and just seems cruel in general atleast given what is said so far.
 
Bodhisattva said:
No offense to cops but that one in particular sounded really kinda dumb... unless I am just biased due to his hillbilly like accent and whatever the hell regional dialect that was of broken English and anger...
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I think you were spot on with your assessment.
 
holbritter said:
Ok, thanks. :)

It did say that they offered to take the dog to a vet, but the man said no. Would a vet charge the owner for that? I mean it sounds like a stupid question, but I have no idea when it comes to 'public health' rules or anything like that.
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The owner would charge for the quarantine. If the animal is symptomatic then the city would take over. Private vets don't do the brain analysis.
 
Skeptic Bob said:
Nope. I was a vet tech for 8 years and that is NOT SOP. If a dog bites some one the dog is quarantined at a vet's office, at owner's expense, for a period of time (I forget how long). If the dog is rabid then symptoms will show within that period. If symptoms show the dog is put down and the person is treated. If no symptoms show then everyone is good.

I have never heard of anything like this story.
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Funny story...

My daughter got bit by a Vole (a mouse like critter) that a friend had caught and we were told to by our vet to keep it and watch it 14 days.

On the 14th day the Vole twitches, runs around in a circle and drops dead. My daughter looks up to me with eyes like pie plates and asks "Am I going to die?"

I tried to never lie to our children. I looked her in the eye and said "Yes. (insert pause) Just not from this". Dropped Mr. Vole into a 6-pack cooler and trotted it down to the County Animal Control office.

A few days later they gave us the good news. No rabies.

Lesson learned... Don't pet wild animals.



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