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Detroit police officers fight each other in undercover op gone wrong

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There's no way this story wasn't directed by Quentin Tarantino.

An internal investigation has been launched at the Detroit Police Department after two different precincts got into a turf war as they converged on an east side neighborhood.

Sources say it started when two special ops officers from the 12th Precinct were operating a "push off" on Andover near Seven Mile. That is when two undercover officers pretend to be dope dealers, waiting for eager customers to approach, and then arrest potential buyers and seize their vehicles.

But this time, instead of customers, special ops officers from the 11th Precinct showed up. Not realizing they were fellow officers, they ordered the other undercover officers to the ground.

FOX 2 is told the rest of the special ops team from the 12th Precinct showed up, and officers began raiding a house in the 19300 block of Andover. But instead of fighting crime, officers from both precincts began fighting with each other.

Detroit police officers fight each other in undercover op gone wrong - Story | WJBK
 
People in Detroit keep trying to sell the story to us and to themselves that Detroit is going to rise from the ashes.

That just aint likely.
 
People in Detroit keep trying to sell the story to us and to themselves that Detroit is going to rise from the ashes.

That just aint likely.

That city’s decline and inability to clime out of the morast has certainly been a fine example of overblown social programs within the main industries can destroy the economic basis of whole regions. The second lesson Detroit has been kind enough to supply us with is how badly even well meaning public assistance systems are able to reinvigorate a city, but breed a victim mentality that caused crime and civil decay.
 
The laws that those losers were hired to enforce also apply to them.
 
That city’s decline and inability to clime out of the morast has certainly been a fine example of overblown social programs within the main industries can destroy the economic basis of whole regions. The second lesson Detroit has been kind enough to supply us with is how badly even well meaning public assistance systems are able to reinvigorate a city, but breed a victim mentality that caused crime and civil decay.

I see more segregation breeding a victim mentality.

Black flight to suburbs masks lingering segregation in metro Detroit

Nearly a half century ago, as Detroit licked its wounds following the violent uprisings of 1967, the national Kerner Commission bemoaned the sad state of segregation in America’s central cities and the housing woes endured by African Americans and the urban poor.

And few regions suffered worse from the separation of races than Detroit.

Just after the 1967 riots, there were still large parts of west and east Detroit that were nearly all white, the vestiges of housing patterns that were cemented by federal housing policy and local real estate rules. For decades blacks had been confined to small slices of the city, creating tension that was a precursor for the anger that erupted. In 1970, 8 Mile was a real racial boundary; Warren, which bordered Detroit along that iconic road, had more than 179,000 people in 1970 but just 132 blacks.

Forced by federal housing policy and local practices into slums and nearly all-black neighborhoods, African-Americans lived apart from the city’s white population, which limited their ability to enroll in better schools in white neighborhoods or seize job opportunities across the city or suburbs.
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Nearly 50 years later, experts say not much has changed in metro Detroit, even as many black Detroiters have spread into communities across the region. The Detroit metro area remains by some measures the most segregated in the nation and housing advocates say many communities remain unfriendly to people of color.
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Metro Detroit is not alone in its segregation: the Cleveland, Chicago, Milwaukee and New York City metro areas all struggle with segregation nearly on the scale of Detroit. In fact, there are few examples nationwide where communities have successfully avoided racial polarization.
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Keystone Cops: 2017 Edition.
 
That city’s decline and inability to clime out of the morast has certainly been a fine example of overblown social programs within the main industries can destroy the economic basis of whole regions. The second lesson Detroit has been kind enough to supply us with is how badly even well meaning public assistance systems are able to reinvigorate a city, but breed a victim mentality that caused crime and civil decay.

You bring up a good point that very few are willing to discuss -- social programs creating a victim mentality. That's why private charity is always better than living on the government dole. With private charity, the recipient knows that the kindness came from someone's good intentions, and when the recipient is able, he's more likely to pay back the favor -- or pay it forward.

Social programs, unfortunately, create the mentality of "you owe me," and reduce both the recipients sense of appreciation, as well as his self-esteem, which further create the mentality of not believing he can crawl out of the hole.

I'm not opposed to emergency programs that help until a recipient can get back on his feet, but they should require some type of work from the recipient. That's the only way to justify the aid, and it also makes the recipient feel as though he's earned the money, not just had it handed to him.
 
You bring up a good point that very few are willing to discuss -- social programs creating a victim mentality. That's why private charity is always better than living on the government dole. With private charity, the recipient knows that the kindness came from someone's good intentions, and when the recipient is able, he's more likely to pay back the favor -- or pay it forward.

Social programs, unfortunately, create the mentality of "you owe me," and reduce both the recipients sense of appreciation, as well as his self-esteem, which further create the mentality of not believing he can crawl out of the hole.

I'm not opposed to emergency programs that help until a recipient can get back on his feet, but they should require some type of work from the recipient. That's the only way to justify the aid, and it also makes the recipient feel as though he's earned the money, not just had it handed to him.

Mentality is one concern, there are others.
Disease scare moves LA officials to finally create public toilet system for tens of thousands of homeless

With the city facing an outbreak of hepatitis A, the Los Angeles City Council approved a plan Friday to create a system of portable restrooms to help address the problem.

Councilman Mike Bonin recently introduced a motion seconded by Councilman Jose Huizar that calls on the city to begin the steps of creating the system, and it was approved with a vote of 11-0.

“Without access to the basic right of a restroom, people living on the streets are at a significantly increased risk of contracting diseases like hepatitis A that are spread through human feces,” the motion states.

The motion directs city staff to start developing a program of portable public restrooms possibly modeled after the “Pit Stop” program in San Francisco.
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Same issue here in San Diego.
 
The weather is great, almost always.

I know, I grew up there, but there were weren't tents set up on the sidewalks back then. The city shouldn't allow the tent cities. I feel bad for homeless people, but citizens shouldn't have to suffer. It is a health issue, and shouldn't be allowed.
 
I know, I grew up there, but there were weren't tents set up on the sidewalks back then. The city shouldn't allow the tent cities. I feel bad for homeless people, but citizens shouldn't have to suffer. It is a health issue, and shouldn't be allowed.

I started a thread in Government Spending on this issue, so as not to hijack this thread.
 
That city’s decline and inability to clime out of the morast has certainly been a fine example of overblown social programs within the main industries can destroy the economic basis of whole regions. The second lesson Detroit has been kind enough to supply us with is how badly even well meaning public assistance systems are able to reinvigorate a city, but breed a victim mentality that caused crime and civil decay.
A third lesson which of course has not been learned is the cost of bad government....more than a little scary it is how much Washington DC looks like Detroit in that regard, Detroit has never pulled out of the dive, can Washington? DC is clearly not even thinking about it to this point.
 
Truth is stranger than fiction. The goofy drug prohibition strikes again, and we like it. Let's double down on our efforts, it makes for good theater.
 
Did he look like a bitch?

I was thinking more along the lines of the iconic Tarantino Mexican-standoff scenes.

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That city’s decline and inability to clime out of the morast has certainly been a fine example of overblown social programs within the main industries can destroy the economic basis of whole regions. The second lesson Detroit has been kind enough to supply us with is how badly even well meaning public assistance systems are able to reinvigorate a city, but breed a victim mentality that caused crime and civil decay.

Detroit is a lesson in how bad off Black-America is. The City of Detroit is the largest black city in the United States. Even a couple decades ago I was aware that if the United States is the richest country in the world then Detroit should be a gleaming black mecca on planet earth. Similarly, I used to point out that Gary, Indiana (the largest black city of its size in the USA) is the United States equivalent of the brown and black favelas (squatter camps that were transformed into vibrant slums) of Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.

My conceptualization of wealth (which usually follows or is correlated with race) geographical segregation broadened years later when I began to look at sotheby's real estate website. Blew my mind. Then I began to realize the real wealthy you may not even see in Chicago, LA, Houston, etc. Or at minimum the really rich may only have condos or second mansion in those major cities. They have entire small towns the geographically isolate them from most working Americans. I suppose this is not new if one considers the very old, aristocratic families and money of the WASP North East in elite sections of Connecticut. Mansions sitting on sprawling acres.

But Black-Americans online that are middle-class or doing well dismissed me because they are owned by political parties. Usually Democrats. So, they only think in terms of what their party tells them. But because of someone on this website having posted up a video of this LA (former prosecutor apparently) black man... I have gotten introduced to him. And I'm more aware that others have some similar (maybe not 100% the same) views as mine, as I have read comments under some of his youtube videos.

The Republicans were no help to Detroit. And have never intended to be unless--of course--a policy of grand scale gentrification were drawn up where blacks in Detroit could be relocated.

Democrats have failed ethnic Black-Americans because that Party has agendas for multiple groups, and as followers of Tone Talks and Breaking Brown seem to becoming aware of... ethnic Black-Americans futures are at the very bottom of concern for the Democratic Party. You consider Obama. No one has told me this but I can deduce it myself that his foremost jihad and foremost energy was on LGBTQ advancements. Obama care, Mexican immigration, whatever came before any energy he was going to put into reversing the decline trends in Black-America. Through Tone Talks I learned (to some degree, I'm still slightly confused on what it is) what "Intersectionality" is... particularly in his talk with a pastor of the Black Church. I also learned from Tone Talks and Breaking Brown that ethnic Black-Americans are by designed about to be replaced with blacks from Africa. That I was unaware of actually. But it makes sense. I had been aware mass Latino immigration was being used to replace black labor and dilute Black-American influence.

I'm saying all this to say this: welfare programs for ethnic Black-Americans are going to be needed (short of genocide to rid the USA of Black-Americans) once the powers of America in both major parties suck the economic life out of Black-America entirely.






tonetalks
Published on Aug 30, 2017


Attorney Antonio uses data from the Census & Federal Reserve to show that using wealth as the barometer rather than income, there is not a middle class of working age black families in America today.



One of the comments under his video, which relates to Detroit since not only does Detroit have a large black population but it is the largest black city in the whole of the USA.

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2 months ago (edited)

If we had a real (so called) middle class there would be large middle class neighborhoods in cities that have high concentrations of black people...What you find instead is that the cities with the highest concentrations of black people are some of the poorest most unstable cities in the country.
 
Black Detroit has a strong gangster culture not a strong HBCU culture. I'm sure it is like Milwaukee in so far as having as many small store-front Black Churches (non-denominational though) sprawled throughout the black neighborhoods as liquor stores in the black neighborhoods. Some of these churches you get the impression "pimp" Christianity and use the name of Jesus to just enrich the pastors. That's the impression you can get at times. And so black wealth in Detroit has plummeted over the decades as jobs fled the city.



Here is the Black Church pastor that implies there is a problem by embracing "intersectionality" as black Millennials do.


If middle Black Family Hits Zero Wealth does it END the Black church? Tonetalks Dash Radio

tonetalks
Published on Nov 4, 2017


Attorney Antonio Moore and Guest Pastor Kevin Cosby whom is also president of HBCU Simmons College, discuss the impact of racial wealth inequality on the black church in America. Dr. Cosby delivers a powerful call to action for the black community, and black families to rebuild African American Institutions


As I have said before... smarter people than myself have said (in fact are the ones that taught me--they were white intellectual though) that institutions are needed for all people and not government.

The US Government--particularly the Democratic Party--wants to become the de facto "Vatican of the American people."

I was reared Catholic but I do have respect for historical role the Protestant Black Church has played in the lives and communities of Black-Americans.

This pastor himself in this video interview is a very learned man you can tell. I don't have to agree with every single thing he says or believes to recognize and acknowledge he is both highly intelligent and also highly productive. I'm entirely impressed with the man. I'm almost astonished you can accomplish all he has with out committing murder and being involved in organized crime on some level.
 
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