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    Los Angeles Police are Lying About Violent Crime, says LAPD Captain

    A Los Angeles Police Department captain has accused high-ranking members of the force of misclassifying violent crime and misleading the public about the true state of lawbreaking in the city, it was reported Monday.

    Capt. Lillian Carranza, who oversees the LAPD's Van Nuys station, alleged in a claim filed against the city last week that she began notifying superiors in 2014 about the underreporting of crime in the Foothill area, which includes Pacoima, Sunland and Tujunga, but no action was taken, the Los Angeles Times reported.

    The LAPD, according to Carranza's complaint, ''engaged in a highly complex and elaborate coverup in an attempt to hide the fact that command officers had been providing false crime figures to the public attempting to convince the public that crime was not significantly increasing.''

    The newspaper also found that from 2005 to fall 2012, the LAPD misclassified an estimated 14,000 aggravated assaults as minor offenses, artificially lowering the city's violent crime rate.

    https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/l...455592013.html
    I've suspected that crime figures are inaccurate for quite some time now. Police departments have an incentive to underreport or misclassify violent crime, which makes their upper command look good, and leads to the erroneous belief that 'violent crime is at its lowest levels in decades'.
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    Re: Los Angeles Police are Lying About Violent Crime, says LAPD Captain

    Quote Originally Posted by truthatallcost View Post
    I've suspected that crime figures are inaccurate for quite some time now. Police departments have an incentive to underreport or misclassify violent crime, which makes their upper command look good, and leads to the erroneous belief that 'violent crime is at its lowest levels in decades'.
    Doesn't surprise me for a second...
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    Re: Los Angeles Police are Lying About Violent Crime, says LAPD Captain

    Quote Originally Posted by truthatallcost View Post
    I've suspected that crime figures are inaccurate for quite some time now. Police departments have an incentive to underreport or misclassify violent crime, which makes their upper command look good, and leads to the erroneous belief that 'violent crime is at its lowest levels in decades'.
    While I believe overall crime is down in the last several decades, California has particular reason to be sensitive to this, as they've passed a couple of controversial laws in the last few years that have allowed a lot of criminals out of jail\prison early.

    Effectively, they rewrote the rules on what counts as a violent crime, and made it more difficult to send parolees back to prison when they misbehave.

    Crime rates have predictably skyrocketed, along with homeless populations.

    I guess a lot of criminals get released at the Orange County courthouse, and the courthouse itself has become a homeless encampment for a couple hundred people.

    Living in California the last several years has been pretty eye-opening.

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    Re: Los Angeles Police are Lying About Violent Crime, says LAPD Captain

    Quote Originally Posted by WillyPete View Post
    While I believe overall crime is down in the last several decades, California has particular reason to be sensitive to this, as they've passed a couple of controversial laws in the last few years that have allowed a lot of criminals out of jail\prison early.
    True, but we can always just lie about how much violent crime occurs, since it's been going on anyway for the past 12 years with no consequence. Which I suspect will be necessary when Proposition 57 takes effect.
    Effectively, they rewrote the rules on what counts as a violent crime, and made it more difficult to send parolees back to prison when they misbehave.
    It's going to get very weird here. Most other states see us as a circus to begin with, which is a reputation we've earned for letting violent people out of prison and telling police departments to just lie to make everything seem kosher.

    Crime rates have predictably skyrocketed, along with homeless populations.
    The homeless situation is getting really crazy where I live. You can't walk down the street without seeing people talking to themselves, panhandling, or fighting invisible enemies.

    I guess a lot of criminals get released at the Orange County courthouse, and the courthouse itself has become a homeless encampment for a couple hundred people.
    In San Francisco, the old Civic Center used to be the tent city of town. They did manage to clean that up.

    Living in California the last several years has been pretty eye-opening.
    Where'd you move here from?
    It's such a great state, with tons of fun stuff to do, and rich history. I just hate to see to Jerry Brown and the other dimwits in Sacramento ruin what is the best state in my opinion.
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    Re: Los Angeles Police are Lying About Violent Crime, says LAPD Captain

    Quote Originally Posted by truthatallcost View Post
    I've suspected that crime figures are inaccurate for quite some time now. Police departments have an incentive to underreport or misclassify violent crime, which makes their upper command look good, and leads to the erroneous belief that 'violent crime is at its lowest levels in decades'.
    This is no surprise. I work for a law enforcement agency and I've seen the way the top-down politics runs things, writes policy, cluelessly punishes officers for doing their jobs, and denies qualified officers promotions for their presence in a high profile case that inflamed people - not because they did something wrong.

    Especially in jurisdictions heavily populated by Democrats; law enforcement's hands are bound and they are expected to follow the unreasonable demands of politicians and clueless civilian oversight committees.

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    Re: Los Angeles Police are Lying About Violent Crime, says LAPD Captain

    Quote Originally Posted by WillyPete View Post
    While I believe overall crime is down in the last several decades, California has particular reason to be sensitive to this, as they've passed a couple of controversial laws in the last few years that have allowed a lot of criminals out of jail\prison early.

    Effectively, they rewrote the rules on what counts as a violent crime, and made it more difficult to send parolees back to prison when they misbehave.

    Crime rates have predictably skyrocketed, along with homeless populations.

    I guess a lot of criminals get released at the Orange County courthouse, and the courthouse itself has become a homeless encampment for a couple hundred people.

    Living in California the last several years has been pretty eye-opening.
    But but California is SO wonderful and progressive!

    Actually it's a formerly great state that's turned into a hell hole of gang violence and the inevitable squalor of mass third world immigration, overseen by upper class white snobs who want cheap labor and lawn care.

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    Re: Los Angeles Police are Lying About Violent Crime, says LAPD Captain

    Quote Originally Posted by worksforpigs View Post
    This is no surprise. I work for a law enforcement agency and I've seen the way the top-down politics runs things, writes policy, cluelessly punishes officers for doing their jobs, and denies qualified officers promotions for their presence in a high profile case that inflamed people - not because they did something wrong.

    Especially in jurisdictions heavily populated by Democrats; law enforcement's hands are bound and they are expected to follow the unreasonable demands of politicians and clueless civilian oversight committees.
    Welcome to DP.

    The wrong people have too much influence over law enforcement, like the media, activist groups, and academia. They're people who get to sit around and judge police officers, without ever having to do the incredibly difficult job that those in law enforcement do. Political correctness has infected areas of our society where it doesn't belong, and we're seeing the fallout from that now in California.
    Police officers were three times less likely to shoot unarmed black suspects than unarmed white suspects and took significantly longer to decide to shoot armed black suspects than armed white suspects.
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    Re: Los Angeles Police are Lying About Violent Crime, says LAPD Captain

    Quote Originally Posted by worksforpigs View Post
    But but California is SO wonderful and progressive!

    Actually it's a formerly great state that's turned into a hell hole of gang violence and the inevitable squalor of mass third world immigration, overseen by upper class white snobs who want cheap labor and lawn care.
    Great post. Ya know, liberal posters would be flocking to this thread if it were about a black person who supposedly had their civil rights violated by a white police officer. But because this thread destroys their narrative that says violent crime has been declining in the face of illegal immigration & rampant drug cartel activity, the libs here are silent.
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    Re: Los Angeles Police are Lying About Violent Crime, says LAPD Captain

    Quote Originally Posted by truthatallcost View Post
    Welcome to DP.

    The wrong people have too much influence over law enforcement, like the media, activist groups, and academia. They're people who get to sit around and judge police officers, without ever having to do the incredibly difficult job that those in law enforcement do. Political correctness has infected areas of our society where it doesn't belong, and we're seeing the fallout from that now in California.
    Thanks.

    The radical left have colonized cultural institutions, the media, and academia which is why there's so much filth coming from them. And they're being bankrolled as well.

    Most people with hostile attitudes toward police cannot be appeased by any flaccid Use of Force policy. Rather, they hate cops from the beginning either because they have extensive criminal histories or they believe the Marxist line about police being protectors of the oppressive capitalist class.
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