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The Assassination of Russia - FSB false flag bombings of 1999 /and other Putin´s crimes

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its defiantly impossible in the USA, but still how Putin got it done? its such evil act ,what about the world community? NATO, UN, EU, etc. what do you think?

 
its defiantly impossible in the USA, but still how Putin got it done? its such evil act ,what about the world community? NATO, UN, EU, etc. what do you think?



There's no actual proof that it was a false flag.
 
There's no actual proof that it was a false flag.

literally, There's a million proofs
The Less You Know, the Better You Sleep: Russia's Road to Terror and Dictatorship under Yeltsin and
 
literally, There's a million proofs
The Less You Know, the Better You Sleep: Russia's Road to Terror and Dictatorship under Yeltsin and


Not even close to a million; indeed, nothing more than some guy's opinion
 
Not even close to a million; indeed, nothing more than some guy's opinion

ok, can you post pictures of those mystical Chechens , who you think committed this crime ?

i can post 9/11 ´hijackers right now :

fbi_hijackers.jpg
 
its a Bull S. just words of KGB terrorists, 0 proofs , no on one but KGB could do it ...
listen what advocate of the victims says about this Putler´s crime

from 6:53

1) The KGB was long gone by 1999. Learn some history.

2) The facts show you to be incorrect. Pathological hatred does not replace facts. The Chechens could very well pull off a terrorist attack like that---they'd done it before---and they did so again in this case.

3) Nothing more than a conspiracy theory, and totally unproven to boot.

We get that you live in mortal terror of the Bear rolling west and squashing you like a bug, but spouting conspiracy theories is not a good coping mechanism.
 
This is a conspiracy thread...
 
1) The KGB was long gone by 1999.

2) The facts show you to be incorrect. Pathological hatred does not replace facts. The Chechens could very well pull off a terrorist ...

3) Nothing more than a conspiracy theory, and totally unproven to boot.

We get that you live in mortal terror of the Bear rolling west and squashing you like a bug, but spouting conspiracy theories is not a good coping mechanism.

1) no , they just changed the name
2) BS, where did "chechens" get "sugar" (hexogen ) ? so give the names of the "terrorist" where Puter keep them, in which prison

3)

"The position of Russian authorities on the Ryazan incident changed significantly over time. Initially, it was declared by the FSB and federal government to be a real threat. However, after the people who planted the bomb were identified as FSB operatives, the official version changed to "security training".[68] FSB also initially reported that the explosives used by the terrorists was RDX (or "hexogen"). However, it declared later that the explosive was not RDX, but a mixture of aluminium powder, nitre (saltpeter), sugar and TNT prepared by the perpetrators in a concrete mixer at a fertiliser factory in Urus-Martan, Chechnya.[69][70] RDX is produced in only one factory in Russia, in the city of Perm.[28] According to Satter, the FSB changed the story about the type of explosive, since it was difficult to explain how huge amounts of RDX disappeared from the closely guarded Perm facility. However, Robert Bruce Ware believes that RDX could be obtained from the black market:[71]

Yuri Tkachenko, the police explosives expert who defused the Ryazan bomb, insisted that it was real. Tkachenko said that the explosives, including a timer, a power source, and a detonator were genuine military equipment and obviously prepared by a professional. He also said that the gas analyser that tested the vapours coming from the sacks unmistakably indicated the presence of RDX. Tkachenko said that it was out of the question that the analyser could have malfunctioned, as the gas analyser was of world-class quality, cost $20,000, and was maintained by a specialist who worked according to a strict schedule, checking the analyser after each use and making frequent prophylactic checks. Tkachenko pointed out that meticulous care in the handling of the gas analyser was a necessity because the lives of the bomb squad experts depended on the reliability of their equipment. The police officers who answered the original call and discovered the bomb also insisted that it was obvious from its appearance that the substance in the bomb was not sugar.[28][72] However, later at a press conference on the occasion of the Federal Security Service Employee Day in December 2001, Tkachenko denounced his previous conclusions and said the detonator was a hunting cartridge that it would not be able to detonate any known explosives.[73]

In March 2000, the Russian newspaper Novaya Gazeta reported the account of Private Alexei Pinyayev of the 137th Regiment, who guarded a military facility near the city of Ryazan. He was surprised to see that "a storehouse with weapons and ammunition" contained sacks with the word "sugar" on them. The two paratroopers cut a hole in one of the bags and made tea with the sugar taken from the bag. But the taste of the tea was terrible. They became suspicious since people were talking about the explosions. The substance turned out to be hexogen. After the newspaper report, FSB officers "descended on Pinyayev's unit", accused them of "divulging a state secret" and told them, "You guys can't even imagine what serious business you've got yourselves tangled up in." The regiment later sued publishers of Novaya Gazeta for insulting the honour of the Russian Army, since there was no Private Alexei Pinyayev in the regiment, according to their statement.[74] At an FSB press conference, Private Pinyayev stated that there was no hexogen in the 137th Airborne Regiment and that he was hospitalised in December 1999 and no longer visited the range.[73]

According to David Satter, all four bombings that occurred had a similar "signature" which indicated that the explosives had been carefully prepared, a mark of skilled specialists. There is also no explanation as to how the terrorists were able to obtain tons of hexogen explosive and transport it to various locations in Russia; hexogen is produced in one plant in Perm oblast for which the central FSB is responsible for the security. The culprits would also have needed to organise nine explosions (the four that occurred and the five attempted bombings reported by the authorities) in different cities in a two-week period. Satter’s estimate for the time required for target plan development, site visits, explosives preparation, renting space at the sites and transporting explosives to the sites was four to four and a half months.[28]"
 
There's no actual proof that it was a false flag.

"On 13 September, just hours after the second explosion in Moscow, Russian Duma speaker Gennadiy Seleznyov of the Communist Party made an announcement, "I have just received a report. According to information from Rostov-on-Don, an apartment building in the city of Volgodonsk was blown up last night."[77][78][79][80][81] However, the bombing in Volgodonsk took place three days later, on 16 September. When the Volgodonsk bombing happened, Vladimir Zhirinovsky demanded an explanation in the Duma, but Seleznev turned his microphone off.[77] Vladimir Zhirinovsky said in the Russian Duma: "Remember, Gennadiy Nikolaevich, how you told us that a house has been blown up in Volgodonsk, three days prior to the blast? How should we interpret this? The State Duma knows that the house was destroyed on Monday, and it has indeed been blown up on Thursday [same week]... How come... the state authorities of Rostov region were not warned in advance [about the future bombing], although it was reported to us? Everyone is sleeping, the house was destroyed three days later, and now we must take urgent measures..." [Seleznev turned his microphone off].[82][83]"

 
1) no , they just changed the name
2) BS, where did "chechens" get "sugar" (hexogen ) ? so give the names of the "terrorist" where Puter keep them, in which prison

3)

"The position of Russian authorities on the Ryazan incident changed significantly over time. Initially, it was declared by the FSB and federal government to be a real threat. However, after the people who planted the bomb were identified as FSB operatives, the official version changed to "security training".[68] FSB also initially reported that the explosives used by the terrorists was RDX (or "hexogen"). However, it declared later that the explosive was not RDX, but a mixture of aluminium powder, nitre (saltpeter), sugar and TNT prepared by the perpetrators in a concrete mixer at a fertiliser factory in Urus-Martan, Chechnya.[69][70] RDX is produced in only one factory in Russia, in the city of Perm.[28] According to Satter, the FSB changed the story about the type of explosive, since it was difficult to explain how huge amounts of RDX disappeared from the closely guarded Perm facility. However, Robert Bruce Ware believes that RDX could be obtained from the black market:[71]

Yuri Tkachenko, the police explosives expert who defused the Ryazan bomb, insisted that it was real. Tkachenko said that the explosives, including a timer, a power source, and a detonator were genuine military equipment and obviously prepared by a professional. He also said that the gas analyser that tested the vapours coming from the sacks unmistakably indicated the presence of RDX. Tkachenko said that it was out of the question that the analyser could have malfunctioned, as the gas analyser was of world-class quality, cost $20,000, and was maintained by a specialist who worked according to a strict schedule, checking the analyser after each use and making frequent prophylactic checks. Tkachenko pointed out that meticulous care in the handling of the gas analyser was a necessity because the lives of the bomb squad experts depended on the reliability of their equipment. The police officers who answered the original call and discovered the bomb also insisted that it was obvious from its appearance that the substance in the bomb was not sugar.[28][72] However, later at a press conference on the occasion of the Federal Security Service Employee Day in December 2001, Tkachenko denounced his previous conclusions and said the detonator was a hunting cartridge that it would not be able to detonate any known explosives.[73]

In March 2000, the Russian newspaper Novaya Gazeta reported the account of Private Alexei Pinyayev of the 137th Regiment, who guarded a military facility near the city of Ryazan. He was surprised to see that "a storehouse with weapons and ammunition" contained sacks with the word "sugar" on them. The two paratroopers cut a hole in one of the bags and made tea with the sugar taken from the bag. But the taste of the tea was terrible. They became suspicious since people were talking about the explosions. The substance turned out to be hexogen. After the newspaper report, FSB officers "descended on Pinyayev's unit", accused them of "divulging a state secret" and told them, "You guys can't even imagine what serious business you've got yourselves tangled up in." The regiment later sued publishers of Novaya Gazeta for insulting the honour of the Russian Army, since there was no Private Alexei Pinyayev in the regiment, according to their statement.[74] At an FSB press conference, Private Pinyayev stated that there was no hexogen in the 137th Airborne Regiment and that he was hospitalised in December 1999 and no longer visited the range.[73]

According to David Satter, all four bombings that occurred had a similar "signature" which indicated that the explosives had been carefully prepared, a mark of skilled specialists. There is also no explanation as to how the terrorists were able to obtain tons of hexogen explosive and transport it to various locations in Russia; hexogen is produced in one plant in Perm oblast for which the central FSB is responsible for the security. The culprits would also have needed to organise nine explosions (the four that occurred and the five attempted bombings reported by the authorities) in different cities in a two-week period. Satter’s estimate for the time required for target plan development, site visits, explosives preparation, renting space at the sites and transporting explosives to the sites was four to four and a half months.[28]"

No, you can clearly see a number of distinct differences between the KGB and Russia's current intelligence forces.

You copying and pasting a conspiracy theory doesn't make it any less of a conspiracy theory buddy.
 
"On 13 September, just hours after the second explosion in Moscow, Russian Duma speaker Gennadiy Seleznyov of the Communist Party made an announcement, "I have just received a report. According to information from Rostov-on-Don, an apartment building in the city of Volgodonsk was blown up last night."[77][78][79][80][81] However, the bombing in Volgodonsk took place three days later, on 16 September. When the Volgodonsk bombing happened, Vladimir Zhirinovsky demanded an explanation in the Duma, but Seleznev turned his microphone off.[77] Vladimir Zhirinovsky said in the Russian Duma: "Remember, Gennadiy Nikolaevich, how you told us that a house has been blown up in Volgodonsk, three days prior to the blast? How should we interpret this? The State Duma knows that the house was destroyed on Monday, and it has indeed been blown up on Thursday [same week]... How come... the state authorities of Rostov region were not warned in advance [about the future bombing], although it was reported to us? Everyone is sleeping, the house was destroyed three days later, and now we must take urgent measures..." [Seleznev turned his microphone off].[82][83]"



You are talking Vladimir ****ing Zhirinovsky's word for it?

:lamo:lamo:lamo

https://www.vice.com/amp/en_us/arti...dimir-zhirinovsky-russias-craziest-politician

https://www.brainyquote.com/authors/vladimir_zhirinovsky

Some of the highlights

"We must force the government to stop the bird migration. We must shoot all birds, field all our men and troops... and force migratory birds to stay where they are."

"When he ran for prime minister in 1993, his campaign promises included free vodka for men and better underwear for women. He’s throttled newscasters and state officials, told world leaders to suck Russian dick, and pontificated about enslaving the planet. "

"He wants to forcibly take back Alaska because it’ll be “a great place to keep the Ukranians.”"

This is the man you want us to take seriously.

:lamo
 
No, you can clearly see a number of distinct differences between the KGB and Russia's current intelligence forces.

You copying and pasting a conspiracy theory doesn't make it any less of a conspiracy theory buddy.

so you say that hexogen ("sugar") is NOT produced in one plant in Perm oblast for which the central FSB is responsible for the security? and this just a conspiracy ?

hexogen is produced in one plant in Perm oblast for which the central FSB is responsible for the security.
 
You are talking Vladimir ****ing Zhirinovsky's word for it?

:lamo:lamo:lamo

https://www.vice.com/amp/en_us/arti...dimir-zhirinovsky-russias-craziest-politician

https://www.brainyquote.com/authors/vladimir_zhirinovsky

Some of the highlights

"We must force the government to stop the bird migration. We must shoot all birds, field all our men and troops... and force migratory birds to stay where they are."

"When he ran for prime minister in 1993, his campaign promises included free vodka for men and better underwear for women. He’s throttled newscasters and state officials, told world leaders to suck Russian dick, and pontificated about enslaving the planet. "

"He wants to forcibly take back Alaska because it’ll be “a great place to keep the Ukranians.”"

This is the man you want us to take seriously.

:lamo

so you say that Russian Duma speaker Gennadiy Seleznyov Did not receive , or DIDN´T make announcement about this report from FSB? and this video is a FAKE, RIGHT?


When the Volgodonsk bombing happened, Vladimir Zhirinovsky demanded an explanation in the Duma, but Seleznev turned his microphone off.[77] Vladimir Zhirinovsky said in the Russian Duma: "Remember, Gennadiy Nikolaevich, how you told us that a house has been blown up in Volgodonsk, three days prior to the blast? How should we interpret this? The State Duma knows that the house was destroyed on Monday, and it has indeed been blown up on Thursday [same week]... How come... the state authorities of Rostov region were not warned in advance [about the future bombing], although it was reported to us? Everyone is sleeping, the house was destroyed three days later, and now we must take urgent measures..." [Seleznev turned his microphone off].[82][83]"
 
so you say that hexogen ("sugar") is NOT produced in one plant in Perm oblast for which the central FSB is responsible for the security? and this just a conspiracy ?

Your conspiracy theory lacks any basis in fact. I can think of any number of ways a terrorist group could have obtained such material.

Frankly, buddy, your desperation is showing.
 
so you say that Russian Duma speaker Gennadiy Seleznyov Did not receive , or DIDN´T make announcement about this report from FSB? and this video is a FAKE, RIGHT?

You want us to take Vladimir Zhriniovsky seriously. You have utterly torpedoed yourself. Your conspiracy theory is only supported by lunatics who think Turks and migratory birds are the enemies plotting to destroy Russia.

I suppose you think Russia is about to deport the Ukrainians to Alaska, right?

:lamo

Way to shoot yourself in the foot.
 
You want us to take Vladimir Zhriniovsky seriously. You have utterly torpedoed yourself. Your conspiracy theory is only supported by lunatics who think Turks and migratory birds are the enemies plotting to destroy Russia.

I suppose you think Russia is about to deport the Ukrainians to Alaska, right?

:lamo

Way to shoot yourself in the foot.

it has nothing to do with Zhriniovsky . its about lousy FSB job


"Advanced warnings about the impending bombings

In July 1999, Russian journalist Aleksandr Zhilin, writing in the Moskovskaya pravda, warned that there would be terrorist attacks in Moscow organised by the government. Using a leaked Kremlin document as evidence, he added that the motive would be to undermine the opponents of the Russian President Boris Yeltsin. These included Moscow mayor Yury Luzhkov and former prime minister Yevgeny Primakov. However, this warning was ignored.[8][75]

According to Amy Knight, "even more significant is the fact that a respected and influential Duma deputy, Konstantin Borovoi, was told on September 9, the day of the first Moscow apartment bombing, that there was to be a terrorist attack in the city. His source was an officer of the Russian military intelligence (GRU). Borovoy transmitted this information to FSB officials serving on Yeltsin’s Security Council, but he was ignored."[8][76]
Announcement of impending Volgodonsk bombings in Russian Duma

On 13 September, just hours after the second explosion in Moscow, Russian Duma speaker Gennadiy Seleznyov of the Communist Party made an announcement, "I have just received a report. According to information from Rostov-on-Don, an apartment building in the city of Volgodonsk was blown up last night."[77][78][79][80][81] However, the bombing in Volgodonsk took place three days later, on 16 September. When the Volgodonsk bombing happened, Vladimir Zhirinovsky demanded an explanation in the Duma, but Seleznev turned his microphone off.[77] Vladimir Zhirinovsky said in the Russian Duma: "Remember, Gennadiy Nikolaevich, how you told us that a house has been blown up in Volgodonsk, three days prior to the blast? How should we interpret this? The State Duma knows that the house was destroyed on Monday, and it has indeed been blown up on Thursday [same week]... How come... the state authorities of Rostov region were not warned in advance [about the future bombing], although it was reported to us? Everyone is sleeping, the house was destroyed three days later, and now we must take urgent measures..." [Seleznev turned his microphone off].[82][83]

Alexander Litvinenko described this as "the usual Kontora mess up": "Moscow-2 was on the 13th and Volgodonsk on 16th, but they got it to the speaker the other way around," he said. Investigator Mikhail Trepashkin confirmed that the man who gave Seleznyov the note was indeed an FSB officer.[84]

In an August 2017 interview with Yuri Dud, Vladimir Zhirinovsky had confirmed that the FSB had an information about the future terrorist act in Volgodonsk and relayed that information to Seleznyov (the number four person in the presidential line of succession and a member of the Security Council), however someone had misinformed Seleznyov that the terrorist act in Volgodonsk had already occurred.[85]
Sealing of all materials by Russian Duma
The Russian Duma rejected two motions for parliamentary investigation of the Ryazan incident.[86][87] The Duma, on a pro-Kremlin party-line vote, voted to seal all materials related to the Ryazan incident for the next 75 years and forbade an investigation into what happened."


[h=1]'Blowing up Russia' (2000) NTV documentary of Alexander Litvinenko's book[/h]
 
it has nothing to do with Zhriniovsky . its about lousy FSB job


"Advanced warnings about the impending bombings

In July 1999, Russian journalist Aleksandr Zhilin, writing in the Moskovskaya pravda, warned that there would be terrorist attacks in Moscow organised by the government. Using a leaked Kremlin document as evidence, he added that the motive would be to undermine the opponents of the Russian President Boris Yeltsin. These included Moscow mayor Yury Luzhkov and former prime minister Yevgeny Primakov. However, this warning was ignored.[8][75]

According to Amy Knight, "even more significant is the fact that a respected and influential Duma deputy, Konstantin Borovoi, was told on September 9, the day of the first Moscow apartment bombing, that there was to be a terrorist attack in the city. His source was an officer of the Russian military intelligence (GRU). Borovoy transmitted this information to FSB officials serving on Yeltsin’s Security Council, but he was ignored."[8][76]
Announcement of impending Volgodonsk bombings in Russian Duma

On 13 September, just hours after the second explosion in Moscow, Russian Duma speaker Gennadiy Seleznyov of the Communist Party made an announcement, "I have just received a report. According to information from Rostov-on-Don, an apartment building in the city of Volgodonsk was blown up last night."[77][78][79][80][81] However, the bombing in Volgodonsk took place three days later, on 16 September. When the Volgodonsk bombing happened, Vladimir Zhirinovsky demanded an explanation in the Duma, but Seleznev turned his microphone off.[77] Vladimir Zhirinovsky said in the Russian Duma: "Remember, Gennadiy Nikolaevich, how you told us that a house has been blown up in Volgodonsk, three days prior to the blast? How should we interpret this? The State Duma knows that the house was destroyed on Monday, and it has indeed been blown up on Thursday [same week]... How come... the state authorities of Rostov region were not warned in advance [about the future bombing], although it was reported to us? Everyone is sleeping, the house was destroyed three days later, and now we must take urgent measures..." [Seleznev turned his microphone off].[82][83]

Alexander Litvinenko described this as "the usual Kontora mess up": "Moscow-2 was on the 13th and Volgodonsk on 16th, but they got it to the speaker the other way around," he said. Investigator Mikhail Trepashkin confirmed that the man who gave Seleznyov the note was indeed an FSB officer.[84]

In an August 2017 interview with Yuri Dud, Vladimir Zhirinovsky had confirmed that the FSB had an information about the future terrorist act in Volgodonsk and relayed that information to Seleznyov (the number four person in the presidential line of succession and a member of the Security Council), however someone had misinformed Seleznyov that the terrorist act in Volgodonsk had already occurred.[85]
Sealing of all materials by Russian Duma
The Russian Duma rejected two motions for parliamentary investigation of the Ryazan incident.[86][87] The Duma, on a pro-Kremlin party-line vote, voted to seal all materials related to the Ryazan incident for the next 75 years and forbade an investigation into what happened."


[h=1]'Blowing up Russia' (2000) NTV documentary of Alexander Litvinenko's book[/h]


You expect us to believe the claims of an outright lunatic in support of your pet conspiracy theory. You expect us to believe that your conspiracy theory is correct without a shred of evidence.

You can copy and paste the ravings of nutjobs all you want, it doesn't make them any less insane.
 
Putin troll doesn't want us to look at the 1991 coup attempt instead...
 
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