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    Re: Colorado Cop Body Slam: Footage will be release after trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Nobody cares about your semantics... I took martial arts for years.

    Body slam is a general term that is accurate when describing a person getting slammed to the ground.

    The body... is slammed. ****ing body slam.

    Except when you are discussing this in a legal setting it DOES matter. Your definition is open to interpretation. Mine is not.


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    Re: Colorado Cop Body Slam: Footage will be release after trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Didn't you already make this silly argument... execute officers for touching a suspect without permission? Drama Train much?
    That is my ****ing point lol! You are hysterical. It wouldn't surprise me if you are borderline crying with rage. You won't even engage legitimate topical points.

    Now. Who should write use of force policies?


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    Re: Colorado Cop Body Slam: Footage will be release after trial

    Quote Originally Posted by blackjack50 View Post
    That is my ****ing point lol! You are hysterical. It wouldn't surprise me if you are borderline crying with rage. You won't even engage legitimate topical points.

    Now. Who should write use of force policies?


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    Re: Colorado Cop Body Slam: Footage will be release after trial

    Quote Originally Posted by blackjack50 View Post
    This isn't true. Well isn't known. We only have 9 seconds. We don't know for sure what happens before. Only what is stated.



    No. A slam would require him to be the driving force and for him to lift her. He didn't. He rotated. Her feet come forward, off shoes, and her head hits. Legs tend to go up when the body comes down close to them.


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    my picture shows he is the driving force, peoples feet do not come up like that unless he's applying the driving force. if I come up and push you from behind both your feet will not go into the air.
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    Re: Colorado Cop Body Slam: Footage will be release after trial

    Quote Originally Posted by blackjack50 View Post
    So in your mind...police are not subject matter experts in dealing with law enforcement issues like use of force? They don't go to school or train for these things. They don't actually utilize force in the field. They don't have veteran officers and cross train and use lawyers. In your mind police officers have the same credibility as criminals. Maybe you don't understand how they set their policies and standards? And the legal process that goes with it. Maybe you don't understand how they hire the people who set the standards?

    I know. You would prefer the lawyers of criminals to write the use of force guideline right? I tell you what...can you find me person who is a better expert on use of force than a decorated field training officer who is in an administrative position or teaches for a police academy? Who would you pick?


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    so in your mind.. criminals are not subject matter experts when dealing with criminal issues? Of course they are.. so why not have criminals decide what laws should be in place?

    Or do you think that if criminal was writing laws.. that they might tend to develop laws in such a way that benefits them.. rather than the public at large?

    Hmm.. do you think that a police officer.. writing a policy regarding force.. would be MORE likely to develop a policy with the idea of protecting the officer vs the general public? I would suggest that's exactly what would happen and it appears what HAS happened in many instance. Especially when a young lady is being lifted off the ground and then slammed onto it when she presents little threat is considered "appropriate use of force" by the police.

    Who would be a better person to develop use of force guidelines? Pretty much any intelligent person who is not in law enforcement.

    And how would that intelligent person who is not in law enforcement develop the guidelines? Well.. they would incorporate information from law enforcement experts.. from citizens that have had problems with law enforcement, from martial arts experts, from civil rights lawyers etc.

    and they would come up with a force continuum guidline that protects the CITIZENS from overreach from the police as much as it guides the police in effective use of force so that they can protect themselves.

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