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Tennessee Police Officers Tase Restrained Teenager in Custody

Slingshot Bob said:
Must be different than the one I was in, I was also in a straight jacket. I needed a case of snickers as I was not going anywhere for a while. I was 17 at the time, I was left that way for 3 days in an empty cell. I was let up to use the bathroom about every 6 hours and one arm was freed to eat, but I did not fight them.
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Most of the time those restraint chairs are only used for a short period of time. More than 3-4 hours can result in blood clots. Medical personnel are almost always (and should always) be called to assess risk on hourly intervals. 3 days in a restraint chair???

Watch the video. You will clearly see...he is not immobilized.He continues to fight to the point they are risking breaking his right arm forcing him back into the restraint. The guard behind him is seen employing a jawline nerve press that will ****ing destroy most people...it is having virtually no effect.
 
VanceMack said:
Most of the time those restraint chairs are only used for a short period of time. More than 3-4 hours can result in blood clots. Medical personnel are almost always (and should always) be called to assess risk on hourly intervals. 3 days in a restraint chair???

Watch the video. You will clearly see...he is not immobilized.He continues to fight to the point they are risking breaking his right arm forcing him back into the restraint. The guard behind him is seen employing a jawline nerve press that will ****ing destroy most people...it is having virtually no effect.
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Yep, 3 days, Marion county jail. First I was in confinement, I cut my arm with a broke piece of the porcelain soap dish (really a protest move) they took me to medical and had me under observation in a medical isolation cell, some time later they took me back to a confinement cell and put leg chains and cuffs on me (4 point restraints) to a steel bunk on my stripped mattress, I had another piece of porcelain stashed in my mattress in a small hole, I cut my arm again. After leaving medical again, then the chair and jacket. I did not try it again, they broke me of that foolishness.

Probably a good law suite but this was in 1997, I am sure they covered their tracks. 3 days, I pulled the stunt on Friday, the shrink had weekends off.
 
Mr Person said:
Unless, of course, they watched him.




Using their eyeballs, y'know?
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'Line of sight' requires they check in on him once every 15 minutes. No jail is staffed to have one on one babysitters. Thats what the restraint chair is for. If they left him alone for 15 minutes what do you think the endresult would have been?
 
Mr Person said:
Unless, of course, they watched him.




Using their eyeballs, y'know?
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VanceMack said:
'Line of sight' requires they check in on him once every 15 minutes. No jail is staffed to have one on one babysitters. Thats what the restraint chair is for. If they left him alone for 15 minutes what do you think the endresult would have been?
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'Line of sight' does not prohibit them from looking at someone longer.
 
VanceMack said:
I actually wathed 5 minutes o that video plus the one linked where he was being detained at the counter.

If my own were fighting the cops and resisting arrest even after he was strapped into a chair and still fighting and resisting arrest, I would say to them what I have always said. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. You know how you dont get shot by the cops? Dont fight and resist arrest. You know how you dont get tased by the cops? Dont fight and resist arrest. You know how you dont get pepper sprayed by the cops? Dont fight and resist arrest. I suspect that is a lesson you understand...hell...Id bet good money its a lesson you follow and if you had/have kids you are smart enough to teach hem that lesson. Seriously. I bet you are that smart. I mean...I could be wrong..but...
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You are conflating the way cops treat citizens with the way they should treat citizens.

I don't want American police officers acting like the NK security forces and neither should anyone who claims to give a **** about "freedoms"
 
Mr Person said:
You are conflating the way cops treat citizens with the way they should treat citizens.

I don't want American police officers acting like the NK security forces and neither should anyone who claims to give a **** about "freedoms"
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What should they have done?
 
Lutherf said:
Before tasers we'd have ganged up on him, hog tied him and strapped him to a bench. He wouldn't have come out any better.
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Yep. By all rights they should have done that.

The Vulcan nerve pinch sure would come in handy.

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Mr Person said:
'Line of sight' does not prohibit them from looking at someone longer.
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As I said...they dont have the staff to do what you are suggesting. That is what the chair is for.
 
Mr Person said:
You are conflating the way cops treat citizens with the way they should treat citizens.

I don't want American police officers acting like the NK security forces and neither should anyone who claims to give a **** about "freedoms"
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Those cops were not out to stomp thugs. They were trying to restrain an individual that was fighting them and resisting arrest-even after having been tased. Nothing they did (that we have seen so far) was inappropriate.
 
countryboy said:
Yep. By all rights they should have done that.

The Vulcan nerve pinch sure would come in handy.
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With the drugs some people come in on these days there's no amount of pain or pressure that works with them. It's brute force only that gets it done.
 
countryboy said:
Yep. By all rights they should have done that.

The Vulcan nerve pinch sure would come in handy.

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At 2:26 the office begins applying a jawbone/nerve 'pinch' that has the tendency to great big convicts into toddlers screaming like rabbits. Barey phased this uy (it wasnt applied back in the jaw or high enough to have an impact. But thats pretty much as close as we come to a Vulcan nerve pinch. Usually pretty dang effective.
 
VanceMack said:
As I said...they dont have the staff to do what you are suggesting. That is what the chair is for.
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That seems to be a very strange thing to say. They had two officers available to hold him still while the third officer repeatedly tazed him. Why would you make up illogical nonsense just to defend a government agent's abuse of a citizen in this supposedly constitutional republic?
 
VanceMack said:
Those cops were not out to stomp thugs. They were trying to restrain an individual that was fighting them and resisting arrest-even after having been tased. Nothing they did (that we have seen so far) was inappropriate.
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Then it's a great thing I never said "the cops are out to stomp thugs", whatever that means.

I'm sorry this is difficult, but the video quite clearly shows that he was restrained quite thoroughly during the repeated tazing. Once more, I must query your approval of government agents repeatedly tazing an already restrained person, just because they're pissed off.
 
Mr Person said:
That seems to be a very strange thing to say. They had two officers available to hold him still while the third officer repeatedly tazed him. Why would you make up illogical nonsense just to defend a government agent's abuse of a citizen in this supposedly constitutional republic?
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Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzz us.

Yes. They have the staff to wrestle hands on with 1 ****head for the duration of his jail stay.

FM
 
I used to be an investigator for about five years. One thing I learned is that you don't judge things from a picture, film or one person's testimony. It's fun to debate, but only a thorough investigation can decide the appropriateness of the actions prisoners or the authorities.
 
The kid has his hair in a man-bun for gawdssake.
I think he was probably tazed for his bad fashion choices.
 
VanceMack said:
Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzz us.

Yes. They have the staff to wrestle hands on with 1 ****head for the duration of his jail stay.

FM
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Just think if the cops had done nothing, the guy got free and really got in a bad situation and was shot or something. LOL

These whiners would seriously be bitching then!
 
Bodhisattva said:
Just think if the cops had done nothing, the guy got free and really got in a bad situation and was shot or something. LOL

These whiners would seriously be bitching then!
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Or if he ran his head into a wall, or bit another inmate. Or hung himself.

I'd love to see the tox screen on this guy.
 
VanceMack said:
Or if he ran his head into a wall, or bit another inmate. Or hung himself.

I'd love to see the tox screen on this guy.
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He looks jacked out of his mind... head rolling around, eyes in a daze...
 
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