Stop and Frisk or in Canada Carding

A general question, almost a poll

How many times would you accept being stopped and frisked or as it is known in Canada carding (does not include the frisk) before you became rather upset with the police?

0-1

2-10

11-20

21+

How would you feel if you were stopped over 50 times by the police, and questioned by them despite doing absolutely nothing illegal (qualification of at that time as being stopped for speeding or jaywalking is legitimate)

Here?s What You Need to Know About Carding

Firsthand documentary The Skin We're In features Toronto journalist Desmond Cole who wrote an award-winning story for Toronto Life, The Skin I'm In: I've been interrogated by police more than 50 times — all because I'm black.

I have been stopped, if not always carded, at least 50 times by the police in Toronto, Kingston and across southern Ontario. By now, I expect it could happen in any neighbourhood, day or night, whether I am alone or with friends. These interactions don’t scare me anymore. They make me angry. Because of that unwanted scrutiny, that discriminatory surveillance, I’m a prisoner in my own city."

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1. document every encounter with authorities
2. keep detailed records, dates/times, ask why am I being detained/questioned, request names, badge numbers, etc.
3. consult an attorney

Over the course of a year? Id be OK with more than 2, but 10 times? I call that harassment.

Put up some evidence or probable cause, or **** off.

cuban smokes said:

1. document every encounter with authorities
2. keep detailed records, dates/times, ask why am I being detained/questioned, request names, badge numbers, etc.
3. consult an attorney

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In Ontario

# 1 and 2 are now mandatory actions by the police. They have to provide the Carded person with a document stating why they were carded, the name and badge # of the carding officer

KevinKohler said:

Over the course of a year? Id be OK with more than 2, but 10 times? I call that harassment.

Put up some evidence or probable cause, or **** off.

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I personally would accept one in total. I support the Ontario government regulations which states the officer must inform the person they want to card they dont have to comply with any pf it

Lord Tammerlain said:

A general question, almost a poll

How many times would you accept being stopped and frisked or as it is known in Canada carding (does not include the frisk) before you became rather upset with the police?

0-1

2-10

11-20

21+

How would you feel if you were stopped over 50 times by the police, and questioned by them despite doing absolutely nothing illegal (qualification of at that time as being stopped for speeding or jaywalking is legitimate)

Here?s What You Need to Know About Carding

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That is a difficult question. If driving and stopped the police can and should check for driver's license, registration and proof of insurance because driving in a public place is a privilege and not a basic freedom. So I have never objected to carding in that circumstance.

However, when walking about lawfully in public I have a big problem with carding and have on one occasion refused to comply with two Montreal constable's requests for me to produce ID. When confronted I asked them if they had reasonable grounds for stopping me and if so to describe to me what grounds those were. When they could not do so I asked them if I was being charged with anything or was I free to go? They gloomily acknowledged no to the charging and yes to my going. I wished them a good day and went on my way. However, I am a white male and at the time I was middle aged and dressed conservatively. So my experience with the coppers may be very different from that of a young black man in Toronto.

Cheers.
Evilroddy.

It is not just black people, I have had my share of it.

Slingshot Bob said:

It is not just black people, I have had my share of it.

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You are right

But at least in Toronto a black person was 17 time more likely to be carded, despite that as a total number of cards were performed on whites by at least double

Lord Tammerlain said:

You are right

But at least in Toronto a black person was 17 time more likely to be carded, despite that as a total number of cards were performed on whites by at least double

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The last time I was stopped, I was searched even though I expressly denied consent and they had zero cause. Then I was told to leave a public area or I would be charged with trespassing, loitering and prowling.

I would be so rich if had the incident on film.