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Lee Malvo [DC Sniper] Sentences Overturned

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Seems the judge had no choice.

Malvo was only 17 at the time, which is why the judge vacated the life sentences and ordered new sentencing hearings, the Washington Post reported.

In 2012, the Supreme Court ruled that mandatory life sentences for juveniles without the possibility for parole were unconstitutional.

Lee Boyd Malvo: Judge Throws Out Life Sentences for Sniper | Time.com
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Pesky that there Constitution. Isn't it?
 
Yeah, I've lost so much sleep worrying that the poor little feller would have to spend the rest of his life in prison. Certainly he's done nothing to warrant such harsh treatment. :roll:
 
truthatallcost said:
He'll need a place to stay when he gets out man. Will you volunteer to let him live at your place?

*crickets*
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I think I can find a spare "boot" for him, he'll feel right at home........
 
So since he has 8 life sentences, commuting life to say 40 years apiece to run consecutively should give the poor little feller the relief he is looking for.
 
I just researched the judge who decided the case, David Hale. To no ones surprise:

•Appointed as US Federal Prosecutor of Western KY by Obama.
•Appointed as US District Court Judge by Obama.
•On March 31, 2017, Hale ruled against the dismissal of a lawsuit accusing Donald Trump of inciting violence against protesters in Louisville, Kentucky.

He's a pet of the DNC.
 
X Factor said:
Yeah, I've lost so much sleep worrying that the poor little feller would have to spend the rest of his life in prison. Certainly he's done nothing to warrant such harsh treatment. :roll:
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He's a scumbag but also technically a child. While plenty of "children" get charged as adults, the fact that the argument that he was being manipulated by an adult needs to be taken into consideration. I suspect his unusually harsh sentence was racially motivated.
 
truthatallcost said:
I just researched the judge who decided the case, David Hale. To no ones surprise:

•Appointed as US Federal Prosecutor of Western KY by Obama.
•Appointed as US District Court Judge by Obama.
•On March 31, 2017, Hale ruled against the dismissal of a lawsuit accusing Donald Trump of inciting violence against protesters in Louisville, Kentucky.

He's a pet of the DNC.
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I wouldn't mind having this justice removed simply because he's an Obama appointee, but this ruling isn't incorrect.
 
calamity said:
Seems the judge had no choice.



Pesky that there Constitution. Isn't it?
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Just make all four of them into 30 or 40 year sentences but make them consecutive - problem solved and still no chance for parole until after 100 to 153 years. ;)
 
calamity said:
Seems the judge had no choice.



Pesky that there Constitution. Isn't it?
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Considering that this guy went around shooting random people can't exactly say I'm excited that he's getting his sentence lessened.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Considering that this guy went around shooting random people can't exactly say I'm excited that he's getting his sentence lessened.
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I agree. But, considering that he was a juvenile under the control of his sexual abuser...hard to say who the hell this kid really is.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Just make all four of them into 30 or 40 year sentences but make them consecutive - problem solved and still no chance for parole until after 100 to 153 years. ;)
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I never understood the concurrent sentencing thing myself, especially not for separate crimes committed at different times. I do understand it when someone is charged with multiple offenses for the same crime. But, that's a completely different ball of wax.
 
calamity said:
I never understood the concurrent sentencing thing myself, especially not for separate crimes committed at different times. I do understand it when someone is charged with multiple offenses for the same crime. But, that's a completely different ball of wax.
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If you are given any LWOP sentence(s) then it makes no difference - the concurrent vs. consecutive assignment only matters in establishing a parole eligibility date.
 
calamity said:
Why do you hate the Constitution?
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I don't. I do however think that the Supreme Court erred in their 2012 decision. And this:
Most of the approximately 2,500 individuals sentenced as juveniles to life without the possibility of parole now have a chance for release

Juvenile Life Without Parole: An Overview | The Sentencing Project
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... Could well signify that some of these juveniles (all convicted killers I'm assuming) will one day be free.

So I answered your question, why not answer mine?
 
truthatallcost said:
I just researched the judge who decided the case, David Hale. To no ones surprise:

•Appointed as US Federal Prosecutor of Western KY by Obama.
•Appointed as US District Court Judge by Obama.
•On March 31, 2017, Hale ruled against the dismissal of a lawsuit accusing Donald Trump of inciting violence against protesters in Louisville, Kentucky.

He's a pet of the DNC.
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So you hate the constitution and the rule of law?

Why am I not surprised?
 
truthatallcost said:
I don't. I do however think that the Supreme Court erred in their 2012 decision. And this:


... Could well signify that some of these juveniles (all convicted killers I'm assuming) will one day be free.

So I answered your question, why not answer mine?
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I actually like all 10 Amendments in our Bill of Rights, of which the 8th, prohibiting cruel and unusual punishment, is a part. Unfortunately too many here only have concerns over the 2nd, and seem to be very flexible on the other 9. Well, they are as long as it doesn't affect them personally, of course.

TLDNR: I do not like letting the little murderous twit out of his LWP sentence, but I can live with it because that is what we have to do to keep the freedoms given us in the BOR.
 
calamity said:
I actually like all 10 Amendments in our Bill of Rights, of which the 8th, prohibiting cruel and unusual punishment, is a part.
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And how is it cruel and unusual punishment to sentence a 21 year old to life without parole, when he himself admitted to murdering 10 people?






TLDNR: I do not like letting the little murderous twit out of his LWP sentence, but I can live with it because that is what we have to do to keep the freedoms given us in the BOR.
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The Supreme Court is not infallible, and they seriously erred in their judgment. A 17 year old is a juvenile, but not a child, and Malvo admitted to murdering 10 people for de Allah. The originators of the Constitution would have found the court's finding to be ludicrous, but you can distort the Constitution into saying whatever you want it to.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
So you hate the constitution and the rule of law?

Why am I not surprised?
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I imagine that those on the Right would rewrite the Bill of Rights a bit like this.

Amendment 1: No laws to hamper Christians or the Press I like
Amendment 2: No laws to hamper owning, buying or selling guns
Amendment 3: No soldiers quartered in my house
Amendment 4: No searching me or my house or those of my friends and political allies
Amendment 5: No need to answer questions posed by liberal judges, prosecutors, or FBI officials
Amendment 6: No Trials for liberals
Amendment 7: No right to sue corporations, which are persons, btw
Amendment 8: No Cruel and Unusual punishment, except for scumbags who do stuff we don't like
Amendment 9: I can do what I want; you can't
Amendment 10: If I don't like a federal law, it's unconstitutional
 
truthatallcost said:
And how is it cruel and unusual punishment to sentence a 21 year old to life without parole, when he himself admitted to murdering 10 people?








The Supreme Court is not infallible, and they seriously erred in their judgment. A 17 year old is a juvenile, but not a child, and Malvo admitted to murdering 10 people for de Allah. The originators of the Constitution would have found the court's finding to be ludicrous, but you can distort the Constitution into saying whatever you want it to.
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Devil is always in the details.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Considering that this guy went around shooting random people can't exactly say I'm excited that he's getting his sentence lessened.
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He will still get what will effectively be a life sentence.
 
VanceMack said:
So since he has 8 life sentences, commuting life to say 40 years apiece to run consecutively should give the poor little feller the relief he is looking for.
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Yeah, I consider this a "paperwork ruling". He's not going anywhere. I'd be honestly shocked if he ever got out for any reason.
 
radcen said:
Yeah, I consider this a "paperwork ruling". He's not going anywhere. I'd be honestly shocked if he ever got out for any reason.
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might get "death by bongo"!
 
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