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Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Revisited

Excon said:
The reason I rarely bring it up is because of the way the testimony came forth. It had not been revealed to the Defense in any statement she previously gave, yet the Prosecution was aware of it. To me it made her appear incredible.
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Yeah. Prosecution was pretty shady. So was the judge..
 
"Yeah. Prosecution was pretty shady. So was the judge.." S #676

"I have no disagreements with that." Ec #677
shady

shady (shâ´dê) adjective
shadier, shadiest
Of dubious character or honesty; questionable. See synonyms at dark.
- shad´ily adverb
- shad´iness noun

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No body is a greater advocate for character and honesty than sear.

But in this case I suspect competence was the more determinative issue. I'm confident if DA sear supervised the prosecution, we would have won both a persuasive conviction, and a severe & punitive punishment.
 
sear said:
No body is a greater advocate for character and honesty than sear.
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Oh look. Another shady reply. Figures.



sear said:
we would have won both a persuasive conviction, and a severe & punitive punishment.
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iLOL
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No you wouldn't have.

He shouldn't even have been charged in the first place.
 
sear said:
"Yeah. Prosecution was pretty shady. So was the judge.." S #676

"I have no disagreements with that." Ec #677

No body is a greater advocate for character and honesty than sear.

But in this case I suspect competence was the more determinative issue. I'm confident if DA sear supervised the prosecution, we would have won both a persuasive conviction, and a severe & punitive punishment.
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Ahhhh... more deluded ponderings...
 
Particularly a night-stalker of a schoolboy that had a record of violent assault.
 
sear said:
Particularly a night-stalker of a schoolboy that had a record of violent assault.
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Sorry bub, no record of any conviction for any assault. Because if we are only going by accusations, plenty of African Americans have just as many, if not more arrests than Zimmerman before the incident with Martin.
 
Salsassin said:
Sorry bub, no record of any conviction for any assault. Because if we are only going by accusations, plenty of African Americans have just as many, if not more arrests than Zimmerman before the incident with Martin.
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Why are you bringing race into the discussion?
 
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Particularly a night-stalker of a schoolboy that had a record of violent assault.

"Sorry bub" S #684
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You quote me, but address "bub".
Not sure who "bub" is, but you may address me as "sear".

Regarding your sorrow:
there's not much I can do to ameliorate that.

BUT !!
"no record of any conviction for any assault." S #684
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True.
But I never asserted otherwise.
My comment was that Z had a record of it. I'm fully aware there was no conviction. And again, I never asserted otherwise.
"Because if we are only going by accusations"
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I wouldn't. But you can.
My comment was about his record. Not his CONVICTION record. Z's ENTIRE record.
Are you alleging the police charged Z for violent assault fraudulently?
"plenty of African Americans have just as many, if not more arrests than Zimmerman before the incident with Martin." S #684
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And when Z shoots them all dead we'll have something more to talk about. Until then, what possible bearing does that have on the indisputable fact that Z night-stalked TM, and shot him dead?
 
Bodhisattva said:
Why are you bringing race into the discussion?
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Race has already been rought in to the equation by claiming Martin was targeted because he was Black based in statistics. Well those same statistics show us that Zimmerman is within the range for regular encounters of Africans Americans, Native Americans and Latinos, of which he shares ancestry with all. But the Black argument was brought up by them, so I am staying innthat field.
 
sear said:
You quote me, but address "bub".
Not sure who "bub" is, but you may address me as "sear".
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Ok bub.

Regarding your sorrow:
there's not much I can do to ameliorate that.
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I am not the one drowning their sorrows about the acquittal on this message board.

Are you alleging the police charged Z for violent assault fraudulently?
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100%. And historical records with minorities show that while many arrests are legit, many are not. same with poor White people. In fact, most minorities are targeted in areas where the minority population is highly represented in the poor communities.They dropped the violence part early on, and then acquitted him from the longer resisting arrest without violence charge with an anger management class for arguing with the cop. We know what happened that day from the testimony of his coworker and friend to the FDLE.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fNOPfh7qXfM

And when Z shoots them all dead we'll have something more to talk about.
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Inflamatory and non evidenciary. Zimmerman mentored African American kids with his free time, so the claim he was against Black kids is preposterous.
Until then, what possible bearing does that have on the indisputable fact that Z night-stalked TM, and shot him dead?
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Making your robotic claim over and over again without proof still won't change that it puerile and unsubstantiated.
 
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" the indisputable fact that Z night-stalked TM, and shot him dead? " sear

"Making your robotic claim over and over again without proof still won't change that it puerile and unsubstantiated." S #688
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"Robotic"?
Robotic because over the months I've repeated them, because so many have contested them I've had to clarify the record? That in your mind makes it "robotic"? If so, then by your definition the absurdities I'm refuting are equally robotic.
"it puerile and unsubstantiated." S #688
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If by "puerile" you refer to the fact that it was a schoolboy, not an adult that Zimmerman shot dead that night, I agree.

If y "unsubstantiated" you question the homicide, the corpus delicti is at Trayvon Martin's grave.

Floor: spotless.

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Fenton Lum said:
"Yeah. Prosecution was pretty shady. So was the judge.."

And so is George. Murderers can be that way.
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Thank you for showing you know not a damn thing about this case. :thumbs:


Fenton Lum said:
Because the entire thing is/was about race, Little Georgie had a thing abuot negroes.
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Thing about negroes? WTF?
Sure, besides being partially black, he liked them, got along with them and even came to the defense of a homeless black person against the Police.
Yet you got the gall to sit there and cast delusional racist aspersions? Sad.




sear said:
Particularly a night-stalker of a schoolboy that had a record of violent assault.
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There you go with that dishonest narrative again.
No such thing as "night-stalker".
And no, there is no record of violent assault. An arrest for such does not mean the act was committed, all it is, is an allegation at that point.

That arrest charge of "resisting with violence" was reduced (meaning what he was arrested for is no longer what he was actually charged with, and therefore not the actual record) and then waived, and it all stems from coming to the defense of a friend who was being attacked. That of course is a noble gesture.
 
Excon said:
Thank you for showing you know not a damn thing about this case. :thumbs:


Thing about negroes? WTF?
Sure, besides being partially black, he liked them, got along with them and even came to the defense of a homeless black person against the Police.
Yet you got the gall to sit there and cast delusional racist aspersions? Sad.




There you go with that dishonest narrative again.
No such thing as "night-stalker".
And no, there is no record of violent assault. An arrest for such does not mean the act was committed, all it is, is an allegation at that point.

That arrest charge of "resisting with violence" was reduced (meaning what he was arrested for is no longer what he was actually charged with, and therefore not the actual record) and then waived, and it all stems from coming to the defense of a friend who was being attacked. That of course is a noble gesture.
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Why, some of his best friends were black people.
 
Fenton Lum said:
Why, some of his best friends were black people.
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Your sarcasm in reply to what was said, just shows you have no logical or valid point here.
 
Excon said:
Your sarcasm in reply to what was said, just shows you have no logical or valid point here.
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White trash punkass kid broke into my house twice, shoulda murdered him apparently. I chose not to.
 
Fenton Lum said:
White trash punkass kid broke into my house twice, shoulda murdered him apparently. I chose not to.
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Your choice, irrelevant to this thread, and I don't care.
 
Fenton Lum said:
Pretty obvious you don't care about lots of stuff.
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Yes I do not care fro your delusional nonsense, which of course is a "lot of stuff".
I doubt many do.
 
Fenton Lum said:
Because the entire thing is/was about race, Little Georgie had a thing abuot negroes.
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Salsassin said:
Race has already been rought in to the equation by claiming Martin was targeted because he was Black based in statistics. Well those same statistics show us that Zimmerman is within the range for regular encounters of Africans Americans, Native Americans and Latinos, of which he shares ancestry with all. But the Black argument was brought up by them, so I am staying innthat field.
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Straw Man. You were talking about incarceration statistics. Not Martin.
 
Fenton Lum said:
White trash punkass kid broke into my house twice, shoulda murdered him apparently. I chose not to.
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If you feared for your life, you would have had that right. Bit it wouldn't have been murder. Happened a few times in Florida.
 
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