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Can People Shoot ICE Agents?

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After reading this article, it does leave me wondering. If an ICE agent comes to your home and demands some crap or other, can a citizen tell them to **** off? And, if the bastard kicks in your door, can we blow the ****ers away?

Immigration debate: Should ICE officers identify themselves as police? - CNN.com

The question is....exactly what authority do these people have over us who are citizens. What if I, as a citizen, harbor an immigrant or, say, am married to one. Do my rights as a citizen supersede those of the ICE Agent doing his job to hunt immigrants. Can I kill him if he touches my wife in my home?
 
calamity said:
After reading this article, it does leave me wondering. If an ICE agent comes to your home and demands some crap or other, can a citizen tell them to **** off? And, if the bastard kicks in your door, can we blow the ****ers away?

Immigration debate: Should ICE officers identify themselves as police? - CNN.com

The question is....exactly what authority do these people have over us who are citizens. What if I, as a citizen, harbor an immigrant or, say, am married to one. Do my rights as a citizen supersede those of the ICE Agent doing his job to hunt immigrants. Can I kill him if he touches my wife in my home?
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Can you? Yes. Will there be consequences? Yes.
 
Without a Warrant they do not have the right to, but is it worth being Dead Right?

If someone kicks my Door down, God Bless the first Guy in ... but I don't know what I'd be able to do against the trailers.
 
I don't think it would be very wise to shoot them, for obvious reasons. That's a one-way ticket to being locked up in a jail cell for the rest of your life.

A better option would be to just take it to court.
 
Yeah, but at what point does my right to defend my castle end? Clearly if some stranger came to my home and tried to drag off my wife, I would be in the right to kill him. Are ICE agents somehow immune to this? It seems this is not clear, based on what I read in the article.
 
calamity said:
After reading this article, it does leave me wondering. If an ICE agent comes to your home and demands some crap or other, can a citizen tell them to **** off? And, if the bastard kicks in your door, can we blow the ****ers away?

Immigration debate: Should ICE officers identify themselves as police? - CNN.com

The question is....exactly what authority do these people have over us who are citizens. What if I, as a citizen, harbor an immigrant or, say, am married to one. Do my rights as a citizen supersede those of the ICE Agent doing his job to hunt immigrants. Can I kill him if he touches my wife in my home?
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Are they or are they not government personnel enforcing the laws of the land?

Yes, you can shoot an ICE officer. And you should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law to include (if applicable to the jurisdiction) enhanced penalties for the killing of a public servant.
 
calamity said:
Yeah, but at what point does my right to defend my castle end? Clearly if some stranger came to my home and tried to drag off my wife, I would be in the right to kill him. Are ICE agents somehow immune to this? It seems this is not clear, based on what I read in the article.
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The same place it ends when any other law enforcement types enter your abode.
 
calamity said:
Yeah, but at what point does my right to defend my castle end? Clearly if some stranger came to my home and tried to drag off my wife, I would be in the right to kill him. Are ICE agents somehow immune to this? It seems this is not clear, based on what I read in the article.
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They'd be doing her a solid, it seems rude to shoot at that point.
 
lol.

Harboring illegal immigrants and encouraging more free immigration from Mexico -- great!

Fellow Americans who are doing their jobs and getting rid of what are technically, by US law, considered criminals -- INFRINGING ON MY RIGHTS, DEFEND THE CASTLE, CAN I SHOOT!?!?!? REEEEEEEEE
 
calamity said:
Yeah, but at what point does my right to defend my castle end? Clearly if some stranger came to my home and tried to drag off my wife, I would be in the right to kill him. Are ICE agents somehow immune to this? It seems this is not clear, based on what I read in the article.
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Can you shoot them?

Most people have difficulty if they run, but if you can get them to stand still for a second.......

May you shoot them? Now that's a different question, isn't it?

I think you know the answer.

Obey the law.

Otherwise the most likely outcome is that YOU get shot.
 
calamity said:
After reading this article, it does leave me wondering. If an ICE agent comes to your home and demands some crap or other, can a citizen tell them to **** off? And, if the bastard kicks in your door, can we blow the ****ers away?

Immigration debate: Should ICE officers identify themselves as police? - CNN.com

The question is....exactly what authority do these people have over us who are citizens. What if I, as a citizen, harbor an immigrant or, say, am married to one. Do my rights as a citizen supersede those of the ICE Agent doing his job to hunt immigrants. Can I kill him if he touches my wife in my home?
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They can, but they should stay in jail for ever. Don't you think?
 
calamity said:
Yeah, but at what point does my right to defend my castle end? Clearly if some stranger came to my home and tried to drag off my wife, I would be in the right to kill him. Are ICE agents somehow immune to this? It seems this is not clear, based on what I read in the article.
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It is crystal clear in the article. ICE agents are police, and therefore have police powers. It is also crystal clear that you have no right to kill an officer while they are pursuing their lawful activities. Honestly, I don't see the tiniest cause for confusion. What are you seeing?
 
I have nothing to hide, so if ICE Kicked Down my door, when all they had to do was Ring The Door Bell, they're on the hook for a nice new Oak-Door, Frame and Home-Link Lock from my Insurance Company ... and I know State Farm legal budget is bigger than ICE. :mrgreen:
 
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Well, that would really stupid and result in you being arrested or killed.

Oh and Calamity, if you end up being arrested that would make you a violent felon and according to your beliefs that would mean you would put to death.
 
calamity said:
After reading this article, it does leave me wondering. If an ICE agent comes to your home and demands some crap or other, can a citizen tell them to **** off? And, if the bastard kicks in your door, can we blow the ****ers away?

Immigration debate: Should ICE officers identify themselves as police? - CNN.com

The question is....exactly what authority do these people have over us who are citizens. What if I, as a citizen, harbor an immigrant or, say, am married to one. Do my rights as a citizen supersede those of the ICE Agent doing his job to hunt immigrants. Can I kill him if he touches my wife in my home?
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No, you can't. Just like there is no right to shoot a police officer if you are married to, say, a bank robber and he is being arrested, there is no "right" to shoot somebody who is just doing their job.
 
calamity said:
After reading this article, it does leave me wondering. If an ICE agent comes to your home and demands some crap or other, can a citizen tell them to **** off? And, if the bastard kicks in your door, can we blow the ****ers away?

Immigration debate: Should ICE officers identify themselves as police? - CNN.com

The question is....exactly what authority do these people have over us who are citizens. What if I, as a citizen, harbor an immigrant or, say, am married to one. Do my rights as a citizen supersede those of the ICE Agent doing his job to hunt immigrants. Can I kill him if he touches my wife in my home?
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Tigerace117 said:
No, you can't. Just like there is no right to shoot a police officer if you are married to, say, a bank robber and he is being arrested, there is no "right" to shoot somebody who is just doing their job.
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Yeah, but when the real cops come to get the bank robber--assume my wife robbed a bank and there is a warrant for her arrest---they have a court order to enter my home and drag her off. ICE is not operating this way, from what I have read so far.
 
calamity said:
After reading this article, it does leave me wondering. If an ICE agent comes to your home and demands some crap or other, can a citizen tell them to **** off? And, if the bastard kicks in your door, can we blow the ****ers away?

Immigration debate: Should ICE officers identify themselves as police? - CNN.com

The question is....exactly what authority do these people have over us who are citizens. What if I, as a citizen, harbor an immigrant or, say, am married to one. Do my rights as a citizen supersede those of the ICE Agent doing his job to hunt immigrants. Can I kill him if he touches my wife in my home?
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Is your question answered to your liking?
 
calamity said:
Yeah, but at what point does my right to defend my castle end? Clearly if some stranger came to my home and tried to drag off my wife, I would be in the right to kill him. Are ICE agents somehow immune to this? It seems this is not clear, based on what I read in the article.
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Perhaps you should test that theory. See how it works out for you. ;)
 
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I'm sort of amazed no one is thinking about this matter. I doubt I would let some yahoo enter my home just because he says he is ICE. I'd tell him to go get a warrant. And, if he barged in without one, I'm pretty sure I would be in the right to shoot him.
 
calamity said:
After reading this article, it does leave me wondering. If an ICE agent comes to your home and demands some crap or other, can a citizen tell them to **** off? And, if the bastard kicks in your door, can we blow the ****ers away?

Immigration debate: Should ICE officers identify themselves as police? - CNN.com

The question is....exactly what authority do these people have over us who are citizens. What if I, as a citizen, harbor an immigrant or, say, am married to one. Do my rights as a citizen supersede those of the ICE Agent doing his job to hunt immigrants. Can I kill him if he touches my wife in my home?
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Lutherf said:
Can you? Yes. Will there be consequences? Yes.
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Agreed. Not recommended.
 
calamity said:
I'm sort of amazed no one is thinking about this matter. I doubt I would let some yahoo enter my home just because he says he is ICE. I'd tell him to go get a warrant. And, if he barged in without one, I'm pretty sure I would be in the right to shoot him.
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So........you have a gun every time you answer your door?

Tough neighborhood, huh?

:shoot:shoot:shoot
 
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