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Dylann Roof sentenced to death

It's absurd that there was even a trial. At no point did he deny his actions at all and there was zero doubt.

In general terms I don't like the death penalty.

In practical terms I don't think it's possible to justify him living these last nineteen months.
 
Geoist said:
Care to clarify? Funny how fairly innocuous statements can still touch nerves.
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Please prove your own nonsense first? You are the one that made such a ridiculous statement for the entire forum to read........so back it up!

Prove it.
 
Lutherf said:
3 hours of deliberation? That's about enough time to get one last catered meal in. I'm sure that the deliberation didn't take 1/10th that time.
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Should have been a slam dunk, as should the execution!
 
RetiredUSN said:
Please prove your own nonsense first? You are the one that made such a ridiculous statement for the entire forum to read........so back it up!

Prove it.
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What's "ridiculous" about it?
 
Lutherf said:
It's the Times. As far as they're concerned everything south and west of DC is "a dark corner of the American south".
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They've obviously never been there. It's a beautiful place and far from being a racist burg.



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Goshin said:
Charleston is not a "dark corner of the American South".



And racism can be and is found anywhere.
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I don't think the writer meant Charleston but more of dark corners in each of the States in the south if that makes sense. As in hidden away in the south.
 
pragmatic said:
He would never be placed in general population.
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He should never see prison. As soon as the guilty plea came down someone should have just choked him out on the spot. Cheap, fast, and humane. If you put a proper choke hold on someone you can put them to sleep rather quickly with little to no pain.
 
RetiredUSN said:
More LIBERAL BS Jack. But I guess I have grown to expect this from liberal writers from the "Noreast"

I feel safer walking the streets of Charleston at night than I do Times Square.
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In Times Square race or skin color does not matter for better or for worse.

One cannot separate Charleston from South Carolina.

By the account of Union Major-General Henry W. Slocum of New York...

Our pontoon-bridge was finally constructed and the crossing commenced. Each regiment as it entered South Carolina gave three cheers. The men seemed to realize that at last they had set foot on the State which had done more than all others to bring upon the country the horrors of civil war.


THE BURNING OF COLUMBIA FROM THE UNION AND CONFEDERATE PERSPECTIVES - October 1998 Civil War Times Feature | HistoryNet



It took this racist dog 150 years later to compel South Carolina to a simple and basic morality -- to remove the Confederate battle flag from flying with its state flag.

The Great Charleston Fire of 1861 was started by the the insurrection of freed negro Unionists eight months after Confederate forces initiated the civil war by firing into Charleston harbor against Fort Sumter. The fire was set next to the building where the Confederate Convention had signed the Documents of Secession. General Sherman himself also did considerable damage to Charleston plantations on the completion of his devastating march from Atlanta to the sea...


The Union Army and Navy hated Charleston -- the city that started secession and, later, the war. But Gen. Sherman knew that taking Charleston, which had already been decimated by 290 days of Union Naval bombardment, would merely have been a symbolic victory.


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General William T. Sherman


"Sherman did not come here for the same reason I-95 doesn't come to Charleston," says local historian and author Robert Rosen. "It wasn't on the way to Richmond."

So Sherman spared Charleston. Some later speculated Sherman had a soft spot in his heart for the city. He spent four years here in the 1840s, stationed at Fort Moultrie. After the war, Sherman visited the Holy City and was stricken by the sight of his former home. "Any one who is not satisfied with war should go and see Charleston," the general later wrote, "and he will pray louder and deeper than ever that the country may in the long future be spared any more war."

Confederate Charleston spent final days dreading Sherman | Brian Hicks | postandcourier.com


Dylann Roof should get life in prison with each alternating year spent publicly in a cage at Waterfront Park to remind the locals and the world of the ugly side of American culture and history. As Gen. Sherman said after the war, let them come to Charleston to see.
 
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The state shouldn't have the right to kill people. On top of that, this is far too merciful a fate for the likes of Roof Trash. He should suffer for decades in a maximum security penitentiary facing beatings and rapes by hulking black men for what he did.
 
I'm against the death penalty but I won't lose any sleep over this verdict.
 
RetiredUSN said:
Please prove your own nonsense first? You are the one that made such a ridiculous statement for the entire forum to read........so back it up!

Prove it.
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It is called speculation. You don't need to prove speculation, only claims to fact.

But I love how offended you are getting over this.
 
Geoist said:
It is called speculation. You don't need to prove speculation, only claims to fact.

But I love how offended you are getting over this.
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Moronic, uninformed speculation has that effect on people.
 
Nap said:
He should never see prison. As soon as the guilty plea came down someone should have just choked him out on the spot. Cheap, fast, and humane. If you put a proper choke hold on someone you can put them to sleep rather quickly with little to no pain.
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A competent person, could snap his neck in short order.

Abbazorkzog said:
The state shouldn't have the right to kill people. On top of that, this is far too merciful a fate for the likes of Roof Trash. He should suffer for decades in a maximum security penitentiary facing beatings and rapes by hulking black men for what he did.
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Just allow the victims' families to exact justice how they see fit and the state can take a step back.
 
MickeyW said:
A competent person, could snap his neck in short order.



Just allow the victims' families to exact justice how they see fit and the state can take a step back.
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True, but there is more room for complications. A properly executed choke hold is efficient and relatively painless so in my opinion would be the most humane way to put someone down. If I was to be subject to the death penalty I would prefer it than any of the other methods used past or present.
 
Goshin said:
Charleston is not a "dark corner of the American South".



And racism can be and is found anywhere.
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I was thinking the same thing lol

Anyways good.
Death penalty or him NEVER getting out works just for me. Either way.
 
radcen said:
IIRC, a death penalty sentence comes with taxpayer-funded appeals.
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IMO, Roof's case comes with some obvious angles for appeal. He represented himself without any known valid prior history of legal competence... and his mental competence remains suspect. I don't expect the Feds to execute him for at least ten years. Now, on the other hand, he might off himself or he may die as a result of some unsanctioned... wink wink... act, reminiscent of Jeffrey Dahmer's death by another inmate.
 
Trippy Trekker said:
IMO, Roof's case comes with some obvious angles for appeal. He represented himself without any known valid prior history of legal competence... and his mental competence remains suspect. I don't expect the Feds to execute him for at least ten years. Now, on the other hand, he might off himself or he may die as a result of some unsanctioned... wink wink... act, reminiscent of Jeffrey Dahmer's death by another inmate.
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I've speculated that a couple times already. He could be playing the system and getting himself set-up for a claim of "incompetent counsel". It has worked successfully before.
 
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