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Never too late to learn .
One can only hope.
Never too late to learn .
The unnecessarily insulting tone of your response aside, no, we are not clear. You're being vague. Purposely? Are you afraid that you know your reason is bogus and won't stand up to scrutiny?
For starters, who is "they"? Are you being specific to certain people you don't like, or are you being generic? Please, be more specific.
One can only hope.
What's wrong with pleading the 5th?"They " , would be those that find is necessary to plea the fifth . Are we clear ?
"They " , would be those that find is necessary to plea the fifth . Are we clear ?
Not to worry , I think you can do it , your half way there . :lol:
Well the 5th was written for the corrupt lying Clinton's !
They are there to protect individual liberty from government overreach of course. Let's see what they say:
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We've been ignoring this one at our peril. There's the so called "Patriot" act, a most unpatriotic act. Then, there's "stop and frisk," but that one is only applied to blacks, so who cares anyway?
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That one is pretty much intact except for the bolded part, which people seem to think has been repealed. The so called "war on drugs", one of the biggest and most expensive failed government projects of all time, has eliminated that part through asset forfeiture laws.
What is needed is an organization as powerful as the NRA and as focused on the fourth and fifth amendments as that organization is on the second.
It was also good enough for Oliver North. Conservatives also use it.
What's wrong with pleading the 5th?
You come off as someone who wishes we could bring back the 3rd degree.
What sort of people would deem it necessary to plead 5? You mean only guilty people? Because surely innocent people have no reason to stay out of jail. They don't need to hide anything, so why shouldn't they be compelled to answer questions from their government masters?
We can always trust in our government to do what's right, right? So why would anyone need a Constitutional protection unless they were in fact guilty of something? Why do we need a 5th Amendment at all? If everyone were required to confess to any wrongdoing, then surely we could put all the bad guys in jail while innocent, law abiding citizens could be immune to persecution. Our Founding Fathers must have surely been smoking dope to have come up with this idiotic constitution that protects all citizens from governmental abuse of power.
Trust me. I learn quite a bit from your posts including information about the poster.
Why do we have the 4th & 5th Amendments?
Open-ended question.
To hear one side tell it, they are sacrosanct and should never be violated, in either letter or spirit, to the point that we can never be sure of someone's guilt or innocence. To hear the other side tell it, they are nothing more than an impediment to reasonable law-and-order and we all suffer because of them.
But go back to when they were written. *WHY* were they deemed necessary? And do those reasons still old up today?
4th Amendment was based on a long-standing principle of English law, and an attempt to restrain the government from potentially abusing its citizens.*WHY* were they deemed necessary? And do those reasons still old up today?
that's because maybe drugs. i eagerly await one of our two useless parties actually doing something to address the injustice and unconstitutionality of civil forfeiture without due process. i expect that i'll be eagerly awaiting this until all of the trees in Sherwood Forest fossilize and are then worn away to sand by the wind, though.
Not just for them, but they sure know how to take advantage of it...
I applied profiling and stop and frisk to anyone, it just so happens that since Blacks commit 70% of the crime, they get more focus. Not hard to figure out.
I agree on the Patriot Act. I did my best to complain loud and long over that to the Bush Adm. Didn't matter, the Shadow Govt. extends to both parties.
But Oliver North used it with such aplomb. :lol:
It would end if enough people spoke out against it, but if you mention asset forfeiture to the public at large, 90% of them have never heard of it and have no idea at all what it's all about.
The 5th Amendment was written for everyone. Are you opposed to the right to abstain from testifying against oneself? If so, why?
Potato potahto?The Amendment does not protect someone from testifying against oneself. Its protects someone from incriminating themselves.
Way to avoid the question. Let's try again: What's wrong with pleading the 5th?Do you think everyone working for Hillary should be able to plea the fifth ? Do you see something so wrong about that ? Who pays their salary ?
Way to avoid the question. Let's try again: What's wrong with pleading the 5th?
So? :shrug:We pay their salary , clear ?
We pay their salary , clear ?
Fair question. Apparently, paying for a service makes you absolute Lord over that person.Can your boss prevent you from pleading the fifth?
Fair question. Apparently, paying for a service makes you absolute Lord over that person.
Can your boss prevent you from pleading the fifth?
He can fire you .