How to solve the Racial issue with law enforcement?

countryboy said:

I was merely shining a light on your idiotic ideas. Same old tired leftist meme of, "racism only counts if one has the power to back it up". Utter, and complete poppycock and balderdash.

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So explain to me how the absolute worst racist in America who has no power to act on his or her racist views is damaging to the life of anyone?

countryboy said:

Why shouldn't successful people who have worked hard, have access to better things? If you were just being facetious, what would be a real solution to this "rigged" system?

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We aren't talking better things. We are talking about justice. Are you saying being rich means you shouldn't have to abide by the same rules and get the same punishment as the poor?


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blackjack50 said:

We aren't talking better things. We are talking about justice. Are you saying being rich means you shouldn't have to abide by the same rules and get the same punishment as the poor?


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So, you are going to dodge the question eh? I get it, you have no solutions, only gripes.

haymarket said:

And again you refuse to elaborate on your statement.

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What in God's name do you want? Anecdotes?

haymarket said:

There are two simple facts that prevent the two opposite sides from ever coming together to do as the OP suggests:

1- there is racism in the USA and it is in force every day all over the land and is a serious obstacle and impediment to African American progress.

2- The African American community is riddled with far more social disfunction in the areas of crime, illegitimacy, alcohol and drug abuse, low educational attainment, and actual resources which seriously hurts their progress as a people and as Americans.

For some reason lots of people on the two sides feel it is some sort of heresy to admit BOTH of these things together.

And until we all can do that and look for solutions to BOTH realities - we are doomed to keep spinning our wheels in the mud and simply getting our entire culture dirty and soiled in the process.

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Close. But the reality is that there is one political party in the U.S. that desperately needs racism to continue to flourish. Without racism, we would not have a President Obama. Without racism we wouldn't have the most racist president in my lifetime, with the possible exception of President. F. D. Roosevelt. The race hustlers and the politicians who need the Race War and the Class War and the Gender War will do whatever they have to do to keep them alive and well. The nonsense about Political Correctness was designed to prevent open discussions between people with differences. That's all it's for. If you eliminated the PC crap, you could have a BLM advocate and a Trumpkin sit down and reach some agreements on what is real. But, we know who won't let that happen.

If we wanted to deal with the problem of racism we would make those who promote it stop. We would return to neighborhood policing. We would get police officers out of the car and dealing with people. We know what to do but we aren't going to do it as long as those who want racism to flourish have the power to see that it does.

blackjack50 said:

I am wondering what people believe the cause of the racial tensions are and proposed solutions to these tensions and problems. So you believe that one party is at fault? Both? All? What do you think? Where do we start? Why there?

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I've reached the conclusion that the racial tensions we see today are the result of competing philosophies on the meaning of racial equality. Some of us believe in color blindness and equal opportunity while others believe in color affirmation and equal outcomes. The trouble is being caused by the later and it is a dangerous philosophy in two ways (that I can think of off the top of my head):

1) It's the rationale behind then Attorney General Eric Holder and Assistant Attorney General Loretta King's decision to force Justice Department lawyers to withdrawal charges of voter intimidation against Samir Shabazz - they do not believe that white people are entitled to protections under the Voting Rights Act. A black man milling around the polls in a paramilitary uniform and shaking a billy club at white people while calling them "white devil" and "cracker" is what equality looks like to these people. Race-based rules for me and for thee to grant advantage for the purpose of achieving equal outcome - no matter who is steam rolled in the process.

2) It is a philosophy that allows its followers to perceive the landscape as though nothing has changed since the pre-civil rights era and to make cum hoc ergo propter hoc arguments for a vast white supremacist conspiracy about a wide range of subjects from incarceration rates to incomes to education and beyond. They ignore significant achievement such as national minority overrepresentation in police forces, municipal government, and at nearly every level of the judiciary while distracting from the real issues that black Americans face from within.

What is the solution? Color blindness and equal opportunity have to win out.

Interview with Morgan Freeman by Mike Wallace:

Freeman: Which month is white history month? No, Come on, tell me.”

Wallace: “Well, I'm Jewish.”

Freeman: “Okay. Which month is Jewish history month?”

Wallace: “There isn't one.”

Freeman: “ Oh. Oh, why not? Do you want one?”

Wallace: “No. No.”

Freeman: “I don't either. I don't want a Black History Month. Black history is American history.”

Wallace: “How are we going to get rid of racism and ….”

Freeman: “Stop talking about it. I'm going to stop calling you a white man, and I'm going to ask you to stop calling me a black man. I know you as Mike Wallace. You know me as Morgan Freeman. You want to say, `Well, I know this white guy named Mike Wallace.' You know what I'm saying?

We could start solving the problems of racism by dealing with the racist Democrats in the government. The racists can't accept that we're all Americans.