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MickeyW said:

He has the right idea and is dealing with illegal drug merchants, as they should be dealt with here. Don't like that kinda talk? Tough ****!

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beefheart said:

You really don't care much for that pesky constitution do you?

You don't kill drug users, unless you go kill all the people who are whacked out on prescription drugs. Kill Rush Limbaugh first.

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Thoreau72 said:

If you would like to see drug dealers executed, you might like living in the Philipines or elsewhere where that is the practice.

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Tanngrisnir said:

Yet again, you demonstrate your utter hatred for the rule of law and disdain for a functioning judicial system.

Same old, same old.

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Thoreau72 said:

If you would like to see drug dealers executed, you might like living in the Philipines or elsewhere where that is the practice.

It was funny the way Obama lectures Duerte the new prez there, for executing users and dealers. Obama lectures him for killing people, then returns to DC and signs off on drone attacks on innocents on the other side of the world.

Yes, the hypocrisy is astounding.

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Tanngrisnir said:

Mickey has demonstrated here time and again that he passionately hates the US Constitution.

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soot said:

WTF?

I honestly don't give a **** what they do in the Philippines.

I want drug dealers to be executed here in the United States, where it might actually benefit me.

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MickeyW said:

Yada, yada, yada, the Rule of law is very flawed

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and furthermore, I'm talking about the Philippines.

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I don't have hatred for the rule of law, but I certainly disagree with it's application at times.

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I'm not alone. Most cops get real tired of some liberal shyster attorney or judge, being soft on criminals.

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There is only one way to deal with drug dealers. Execute them. After a fair trial and conviction. If rulers in "other" countries want to use more drastic measures on drug dealers....I'm ok with that. Maybe they will snuff the ****ers before they contaminate the US!

I'm sick and tired of painty waist liberals, bitching about harsh laws and sentencing.

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MickeyW said:

No, I really haven't demonstrated any such thing! But your inability to figure out what I say, is well known now.!

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Tanngrisnir said:

Men are flawed. The rule of law is not. Not even remotely surprised that that's over your head.

No one claimed you were speaking about Greenland or Angola.

Yes, you defecate on it every chance you get. Your posting history proves that time and time again.

And yet here you are, two-fistedly supported extrajudicial mass murder. Thanks for proving my point.

LOL! You have such an active fantasy life.

Thanks for admitting you hate the rule of law and the USC.

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Tanngrisnir said:

What a quaintly transparent lie. You love extrajudicial killings, beat downs and murdering suspects. You've admitted to that numerous times here.

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MickeyW said:

I never admitted any such thing. And when I said before that the rule of law is flawed, I misspoke, I meant some laws in general, are flawed.

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Nope, has nothing to do with love. What I do like is when a criminal is stupid enough to try and kill someone and gets his ass snuffed in the process by a cop or citizen victim. Saves a lot of money and time wasted.

That's called self defense, whether it be for oneself or defense of a third party.

Make My Day is not just a cliche.

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Tanngrisnir said:

But, of course, you actually have and have done so innumerable times here.

Your impotent super cop fantasies are irrelevant to rational discussion and the facts, thanks.

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MickeyW said:

Yes, when I'm in a hurry, I misspeak. I have many distractions her from the phone and business emails.

That's your fantasy that I have super cop fantasies. I don't need any fantasies, I lived the cop life, for 30 years.

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Tanngrisnir said:

LOL! Suuure you did. As I've told you before, I simply don't believe you, based on your lack of knowledge of the law, your impotent fantasies and your utter reliance on emotion.

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MickeyW said:

Yes...I did. I don't know what gives you the impression that I don't know the law, or that I have fantasies and am emotional.

None of that is close to being true.

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I obtained my BA degree in Law Enforcement Adm. in northern Calif. Then worked as a cop both in Calif. and Oregon until I retired.

Now I run a security/consulting company and interact with attorneys, police agencies and the courts, on a regular basis.

So what status or experiences in life, give you the right to call me a liar?

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Tanngrisnir said:

What gives me that idea? Your posts that demonstrate zero knowledge of the law, your fantasies about have suspects killed and your support of the Phillipine president's policies and your histrionice emotional responses.

LOL! My work experience. No one I know who does what I do would ever believe you, based on your posts.

You're welcome to have your fantasies, but I find them laughable and, frankly, sad.

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MickeyW said:

When I post, I'm virtually emotionless. I have a pretty good knowledge of the law, especially the Calif. Penal Code and the Oregon Revised Statutes.
I have no fantasies whatsoever about anything I post. You are reading things into my posts that are not present.

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You are wrong across the board about me. So, you have nothing on which to base your opinion? I get it...just idle make believe.

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You must be a liberal.

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Tanngrisnir said:

Newp. Nothing in your posting history supports your claims. You hate the rule of law. You hate the USC. You gleefully support extrajudicial mass murder.

By. Your. Own. Words.

You must be either really old or really tired. I've already said: your posts. Your posting history. In this thread and others from this very day, no less.

Coming from a wanna-be poseur cop, that's hilarious.

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MickeyW said:

You can believe what you want, but I've put in my time as a cop in two different departments and still get invited to the police academy to train in firearms.

By my own words...I hate no one and I don't hate the law.

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Tanngrisnir said:

LOL! Keeping living out your fantasies, if that what still props up your world.

Sorry that you hate the everloving **** out of both the law, the Constitution and human rights in general.

You have my pity.

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MickeyW said:

I don't need anyone's pity. I'm my own man, always have been.

I'd say that all you can do is berate people and contribute nothing. Kinda like a .....troll.

You have yet to show me an intelligent, lengthy post, on anything.

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Tanngrisnir said:

LOL! You wouldn't know an 'intelligent, lengthy post' in any case.

Too funny.

You have my pity. Good luck being your own cop, wanna-be.

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MickeyW said:

Hey, thanks man...I'll just keep enjoying all of what I have, a long way from that cess pool they call LA.

I'm retired, no cop wanna be. I was a cop wanna be at 13 thou. By 21, I got my wish.
Got a real nice pension now, don't have to do anything but travel, but I like to keep making more money...and I'm making more now than I ever did as a cop.....it's icing on my cake. I do a lot of delegating now.

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SmokeAndMirrors said:

Thanks for this. Perhaps this is something that will get some people to understand this, and the way this really is a biochemical disease...

I'm not an opiate addict. But a lot of people in my family have had problems with opiates -- mostly prescription, just like you describe. They didn't decide to go shoot up heroin. They got handed an opiate by their doctor. A lot of people have "that one drug" that their family, their genetics, are very vulnerable to. That's mine.

I was prescribed opiates a few years ago, for pain after surgery. I was taking less than what they told me I could. My pain wasn't all that bad, and I actually like to stay slightly aware of pain after an injury, so I know if something's going wrong. So it's not like I was pounding them down.

...But after a few days, something wasn't right. I liked them. A lot. Too much.

I've taken several drugs with addictive potential, not lease of all alcohol. And I've never had that reaction. Especially not so quickly, at such a low dose.

I called up the hospital and said, "Look. I'm not taking any more of these. Gimme something else or I'll just tough it out with some ibuprofen. And make a note on my chart: I am not ever to be given these again unless there is literally nothing else to keep me from clawing my face off. Got it?"

In the bin they went. On my following two surgeries, I refused to go anywhere near them. They weren't major enough for me to take that risk. If I ever get my arm sawn off or something, maybe, simply so I don't die of shock, but I'll still ask if there's any other alternative. Short of that, I'll just suffer, thanks. Post-surgery pain is temporary. Triggering an opiate addiction is not.

Not everyone knows ahead of time what their "one drug" is, and not everyone will be able recognize that they're reacting in a bad way for various reasons. I was lucky that I did, or I might not have noticed that something was going wrong.

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soot said:

Look, I'm an alcoholic, and it took me a long time to realize that.

If I drink alcohol, any kind of alcohol in any quantity, it sets off a chain reaction inside me where I'm going to keep drinking until I'm done drinking, and I have no idea when that may be.

The consequences don't matter, the people I hurt don't matter, the legal implications don't matter, nothing matters other then I'm gonna get drunk.

The only "solution" I've found that works, and believe me I've tried just about everything, is complete and total abstinence.

So I'm a recovered alcoholic but I'm not a drug addict.

I can pop a couple Percocet out of medical necessity and I'm good.

I enjoy the euphoric bounce I get out of them, but I don't NEED to recreate that "high".

I take them for pain, as prescribed by my doctor, and then the bottle goes back in the medicine cabinet until it's time to take them again.

There's no compulsion to use them, or abuse them, or take more than necessary/prescribed, more often than necessary/prescribed.

With opiate addicts that isn't the case, and the compulsion to use them is MUCH stronger than the compulsion to use alcohol.

It is my understanding that the only regularly used substance more addictive than opiates (to those who have a propensity to be addicted to it) is nicotine/tobacco.

I've also kicked a 25 year Copenhagen addiction (which is essentially the Queen Mother of all nicotine addictions) and if kicking opiates is anything like that then God help the heroin/pill addict.

And you know the hell of it is, most folks who are addicted to heroin these days began taking opiates as the result of a prescription to some kind of pharmaceutical pain medication.

They didn't KNOW they had the "gene" than makes one an opiate addict until they were introduced to opiates by a doctor.

They took their prescription to Percocet, or Vicodin, or Oxycontin, as it was prescribed, but once it got in to their system it set off the same chain reaction that I face dealing with alcohol.

By the time they knew they were addicts it was too late.

And that's why we have an "epidemic" of heroin/opiate addiction in this country.

Back 20 years ago when I was a kid if you broke your arm you got a cast and some Tylenol.

Today you get a cast, a prescription for Percocet, and a referral to a pain management clinic.

And you get the same for a slip and fall accident, a car accident, minor oral surgery, pretty much everything.

20 years ago the only way you were going to learn that you were a heroin addict was by shooting heroin.

If you didn't run in those circles, and you were never introduced to illegal opiates, you never ran the risk of finding out you were an addict.

Today you find out you're an addict when your perfectly legal Percocet prescription runs out and you find you NEED the drug.

Folks aren't "making a choice" to mainline street heroin, they're "making a choice" to trust their doctor and the prescription they're given.

Folks are getting hoodwinked in to opiate addiction.

They deserve our pity and support, not our ridicule.

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MickeyW said:

You can believe what you want, but I've put in my time as a cop in two different departments and still get invited to the police academy to train in firearms.

By my own words...I hate no one and I don't hate the law.

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Tanngrisnir said:

But, of course, you actually have and have done so innumerable times here.

Your impotent super cop fantasies are irrelevant to rational discussion and the facts, thanks.

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