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"Burn That **** down!"

Really? This has turned into a gun debate? Have the government take all weapons away in areas of high incidences of violent crime using weapons. Something must be done about high incidences of violent crime using weapons. Leave weapons to owners in lower crime areas.

Absolutely not. There are plenty of innocent people in those areas of high crime and they deserve to arms themselves for protection of life and property. The people who need to be disarmed are the gangs. And laws don't stop that. Only law enforcement. And we have the laws we need. Guns aren't the solution or the problem. It is people.


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I can only go by what I see. I've seen parts of where I live burn in riots. I've watched communities transformed into mirrors of the countries the new majorities came from. If I had to pick, attempting to be as objective as I can, the pushing is coming from leadership in Black Communities in collusion with leadership at the state and federal level.

Imagine being born into a community where you are taught the poverty you live in is caused by others, and there is little to no chance to raise above it without being dependent on these leaders. Imagine fathers, humiliated by lack of opportunity, leaving their families to fend for themselves while they seek relief in alcohol, drugs, crime, or other relationships.

Think how many Grandparents are raising their grandchildren. What is it about these Grandparents that makes them capable to raise children, but their own children incapable? Think of the time when both grew up. Think of the policies and messaging that was taking place for each.

So the push is self fulfilling, having received the first shove from leaders who use propaganda and fear as a means of gaining power. Once moving, exploitation is simple.

As I wrote, my heart breaks for the kids especially. It angers and frustrates me to see the willingness of leadership to exploit these kids, and these struggling families.
This is probably the worst thing that "we"* have done to blacks in the last 60 years. It's much more subtle than slavery, but the impact is as far reaching and devastating. And what I mean is that, while we overdid it on welfare dependency, we also actively drove fathers out of the family life with our welfare policies. It's all wrapped together, IMO, a subconscious policy that fathers aren't important... yet they are.

*- Collective "we", as in our government, which is all of us.
 
That sounds really good. But you may not have enough ammunition. Not to worry, though. You can just call 911.

Seriously, it's scarey to think about, isn't it?

It is scary. But I'm the type that automatically wears the seat belt even though I don't expect to get in accident.

I've got my share of ammo though.
 
Just saw a video of a black woman in Milwaukee taking protesters to task. Paraphrased . . .

Screaming at them..."You're burning down **** in our neighborhood that we need!! Go to the suburbs! Burn that **** down!!"

Oh boy. That's better.

I wonder how suburban towns would react...

Thoughts?

They know the democrats will put hundreds of millions of TAXPAYER dollars to rebuild their neighborhood as many times as they burn it down , just like they did in Baltimore ! :shock:
 
I can only go by what I see. I've seen parts of where I live burn in riots. I've watched communities transformed into mirrors of the countries the new majorities came from. If I had to pick, attempting to be as objective as I can, the pushing is coming from leadership in Black Communities in collusion with leadership at the state and federal level.

Imagine being born into a community where you are taught the poverty you live in is caused by others, and there is little to no chance to raise above it without being dependent on these leaders. Imagine fathers, humiliated by lack of opportunity, leaving their families to fend for themselves while they seek relief in alcohol, drugs, crime, or other relationships.

Think how many Grandparents are raising their grandchildren. What is it about these Grandparents that makes them capable to raise children, but their own children incapable? Think of the time when both grew up. Think of the policies and messaging that was taking place for each.

So the push is self fulfilling, having received the first shove from leaders who use propaganda and fear as a means of gaining power. Once moving, exploitation is simple.

As I wrote, my heart breaks for the kids especially. It angers and frustrates me to see the willingness of leadership to exploit these kids, and these struggling families.

Well said man. Well said. Very true. The area I came from is exactly as you described too. Self fulfilling prophecy.


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This is probably the worst thing that "we"* have done to blacks in the last 60 years. It's much more subtle than slavery, but the impact is as far reaching and devastating. And what I mean is that, while we overdid it on welfare dependency, we also actively drove fathers out of the family life with our welfare policies. It's all wrapped together, IMO, a subconscious policy that fathers aren't important... yet they are.

*- Collective "we", as in our government, which is all of us.

In the grand sense, I believe you are correct. It's my belief the hardest decisions we make as members of society is what we will do to make a living. Imagine if that stress were removed to a large degree? Imagine if housing, medical, child care were all taken care of, as long as you buy the propaganda, and keep the "givers" in power.

Consider what is going on today. What message does it send that a parent(s) don't have to even worry about feeding their children? Let the schools do it. Let them do it year round.

http://achieve.lausd.net/site/default.aspx?PageType=3&ModuleInstanceID=1356&ViewID=7b97f7ed-8e5e-4120-848f-a8b4987d588f&RenderLoc=0&FlexDataID=1007&PageID=846

After School Supper Programs are open to all students under the age of 18. This "first of a kind" supper program is being offered in over 500 schools across the District. Students are not required to be enrolled in either the school or the school's after school program in order to receive the supper. The suppers fill a much needed gap in nutrition after the school day ends, meeting nutrition guidelines during the week and on weekends and holidays (where applicable).​

As all the messaging in the media is all about wealth equaling happiness, what would a young person growing up with such messaging do, when opportunity seems impossible?

I say again, the heart breaking reality is Blacks are still being used by people to do the heavy lifting. Only this time it's not toiling in the fields, it's toiling in the cities and towns the left has corralled them in.
 
I think some of this smash and grab going on is probably indicative that thugs are broadening their horizons.


I saw on the news this morning that the first store looted was a liquor store. :shock:
 
This is probably the worst thing that "we"* have done to blacks in the last 60 years. It's much more subtle than slavery, but the impact is as far reaching and devastating. And what I mean is that, while we overdid it on welfare dependency, we also actively drove fathers out of the family life with our welfare policies. It's all wrapped together, IMO, a subconscious policy that fathers aren't important... yet they are.

*- Collective "we", as in our government, which is all of us.

I've done nothing to blacks in the past 60 years. Blacks have done it to themselves. Looking for somebody else to blame is the problem.
 
I saw on the news this morning that the first store looted was a liquor store. :shock:

They also hit a shoe store. Though it turned out to be mostly selling work boots, and so nothing was actually stolen. :D
 
I've done nothing to blacks in the past 60 years. Blacks have done it to themselves. Looking for somebody else to blame is the problem.

Government has imposed a ****ed up incentive structure on them to discourage success and encourage self-destructive behavior. Government owns that, as much as the individuals involved own their decisions.
 
They also hit a shoe store. Though it turned out to be mostly selling work boots, and so nothing was actually stolen. :D

I really shouldn't laugh, but I just couldn't help myself. :lamo
 
I've done nothing to blacks in the past 60 years. Blacks have done it to themselves. Looking for somebody else to blame is the problem.
Don't bury your head in the sand. Things are done in your name whether you like it or not.
 
Don't bury your head in the sand. Things are done in your name whether you like it or not.

Can't help that.

Don't bury your head in the sand. 'Taint my fault.

Two problems in the hood.

Lack of personal responsibility

Caused by:

Failed Liberal Policies
 
The ratio of televisions and stereos newly "owned" by blacks killed by police is 100 to 1 and that is why there are "protests" after the killings. The follow up protests will be for free satellite dishes for all the broken hearted protestors.
 
Glad I could be of service. That had to be, maybe, the fourth or fifth time I've used that word in a little over fifty years of speaking the English language. It's similar to the word "plethora" in that you really need a unique situation to utilize a word like that, since there's not a plethora of opportunities to do so.

one I like is ubiquitous....it's everywhere... ;)
 
That day may come. And, then we will have a true race war. My money is on the white people. They have the numbers and the weapons.

They will suffer so much more than suburbanites. There is way less crime in the suburbs, police have more time on theirs hands and there won't be any turning a blind eye to it. In Philly police do not respond to non-violent theft, fender benders and altercations if there is no gun present. In my township you can call the police for a kitty in a tree and you'd have 3 cop cars, two fire trucks and an ambulance at your house in 10 minutes. In addition, our community works WITH the police not AGAINST them. Homeowners have insurance so they really don't have the power to do any long term or significant damage. You break into my home and steal my tv, I'll have another one the same day. They're fighting a losing battle with this crap. Hopefully someone they trust will open their eyes to the fact that they are only hurting themselves.

hopefully this could be addressed before any more lives are lost

I do not know what the answers are

it appears that the tension, frustration and angers builds daily on both sides
 
I jumped off the black pity train decades ago. Right after after serving with many great black people in leadership positions during my career in the Navy, and many black small business owners throughout all my years. Many of them feel the same way when the see these freaking animals destroy their own neighborhoods, and attack people for no reason other than skin color..
 
Just saw a video of a black woman in Milwaukee taking protesters to task. Paraphrased . . .

Screaming at them..."You're burning down **** in our neighborhood that we need!! Go to the suburbs! Burn that **** down!!"

Oh boy. That's better.

I wonder how suburban towns would react...

Thoughts?

Black suberbs?
 
Can't help that.

Don't bury your head in the sand. 'Taint my fault.

Two problems in the hood.

Lack of personal responsibility

Caused by:

Failed Liberal Policies

The failure of the liberal civil rights policies are certainly a major part of the problem.
 
Yea, who are the racists there - it is them.

I was told a couple of years ago by a patron in s black suburb that the troublemakers were the 'niggers'.
 
Can't help that.

Don't bury your head in the sand. 'Taint my fault.

Two problems in the hood.

Lack of personal responsibility

Caused by:

Failed Liberal Policies

What a load of crap.

The reason they're rioting is because right has rejected the idea of taking the BLM movement seriously.

When you ignore a communicated social problem, those who suffer may find other ways to lash out. Ever heard of the French Revolution ? How about the American Revolution ?
 
What a load of crap.

The reason they're rioting is because right has rejected the idea of taking the BLM movement seriously.

When you ignore a communicated social problem, those who suffer may find other ways to lash out. Ever heard of the French Revolution ? How about the American Revolution ?

Has the left taken it seriously ?
 
What a load of crap.

The reason they're rioting is because right has rejected the idea of taking the BLM movement seriously.

When you ignore a communicated social problem, those who suffer may find other ways to lash out. Ever heard of the French Revolution ? How about the American Revolution ?

So a legitimate social movement is one that protests the lawful shooting of legitimate criminals? Mike browning having strong armed a store and assaulted an officer and this guy who was killed by a black officer...while armed.

How can you blame the right for what is clearly a social problem with the left. When you start an organization that panders to thugs and criminals...you get thugs and criminals who feel they are justified. The right will start taking the BLM seriously when they start taking their own slogan seriously...and that will never happen because we all know democrats don't believe in personal responsibility.


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