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Parole for lone surviving Ku Klux Klan bomber who killed four black girls in Alabama

Re: Parole for lone surviving Ku Klux Klan bomber who killed four black girls in Alab

155 is 2% of 7500. Your math skills suck.

It's 156, not 155 - your reading comprehension skills really suck.
 
Re: Parole for lone surviving Ku Klux Klan bomber who killed four black girls in Alab

It's 156, not 155 - your reading comprehension skills really suck.

:lol: More like memory fading, since I posted the original 156 figure. But, that 155 is 2% of 7500 is still true.

Of course, I'm smart enough not to put down anything past the decimal point, unlike FI, who went 0.0% :)
 
Re: Parole for lone surviving Ku Klux Klan bomber who killed four black girls in Alab

155 is 2% of 7500. Your math skills suck.

So it is, I entered a term wrong on the division.

On the other hand, it still makes my point, that the number is low even with artificial exoneration cases used to inflate the statistic.
 
Re: Parole for lone surviving Ku Klux Klan bomber who killed four black girls in Alab

So it is, I entered a term wrong on the division.

On the other hand, it still makes my point, that the number is low even with artificial exoneration cases used to inflate the statistic.

How is the state intentionally killing an innocent person after a torturous 20 years on death row any less evil than some psycho grabbing a girl off the street and slicing her throat after he rapes her?
 
Re: Parole for lone surviving Ku Klux Klan bomber who killed four black girls in Alab

You cannot undo almost any serious form of punishment. if you take away twenty years of someone's life you cannot undo that.

No you can't, but you can release them, they are still alive. They can, in some small way, be compensated. Once you kill someone, that's it. Death is permanent.

In the end, we need to evaluate the pros and cons of the death penalty, and really there are very few pros. It's expensive, it's not a deterrent, it does not offer society on whole any more protection/safety than life in prison without parole, its failure mechanism is the state sponsored killing of innocent people. What are the pros? Some emotional satisfaction of killing a bad guy....that's pretty much it.

So in the end, all these negatives and it's completely ineffective, yet we know that at least 156 couldn't be shown to be guilty of their crimes. Who know how many other innocents died that we couldn't figure out. So there is no point to the system at all. It's cheaper, easier, and just as effective to keep an inmate locked in jail than it is to kill them.
 
Re: Parole for lone surviving Ku Klux Klan bomber who killed four black girls in Alab

No you can't, but you can release them, they are still alive. They can, in some small way, be compensated. Once you kill someone, that's it. Death is permanent.

In the end, we need to evaluate the pros and cons of the death penalty, and really there are very few pros. It's expensive, it's not a deterrent, it does not offer society on whole any more protection/safety than life in prison without parole, its failure mechanism is the state sponsored killing of innocent people. What are the pros? Some emotional satisfaction of killing a bad guy....that's pretty much it.

So in the end, all these negatives and it's completely ineffective, yet we know that at least 156 couldn't be shown to be guilty of their crimes. Who know how many other innocents died that we couldn't figure out. So there is no point to the system at all. It's cheaper, easier, and just as effective to keep an inmate locked in jail than it is to kill them.
You mean other than preventing the murderer from killing again? They kill in prison, escape and kill some more, are furloughed and kill while on furlough, and there is no such thing as "life in prison without parole" without some dopey governor (or president) pardoning them and then they kill again. That too has happened before. And yes, there is even some evidence that it can work as a deterrent as well.
 
Re: Parole for lone surviving Ku Klux Klan bomber who killed four black girls in Alab

You mean other than preventing the murderer from killing again?

For the general population, this isn't a concern. Life without parole provides the same benefits.

They kill in prison,

Which is certainly a problem with our prison populations and procedures. There are many problems, but that doesn't mean that we should just kill prisoners as a solution.

escape and kill some more,

Rarely, not enough to raise aggregate risk.

are furloughed and kill while on furlough,

So we should just kill them instead? Or maybe look at how and when a prisoner is furloughed and changing procedures to ensure that they are better controlled.

and there is no such thing as "life in prison without parole" without some dopey governor (or president) pardoning them and then they kill again.

There actually is punishment called Life in Prison without Parole. Governors and Presidents can grant clemency, but that is rare for Life in Prison without Parole and even when done in those cases, those released don't often "kill again".

But your solution is to just kill them then, yes?

That too has happened before.

At what rate? How many times?


That article offered no conclusive, determined, quantitative evidence of deterrence and there is no study that proves any amount of deterrent factor to the DP.
 
Re: Parole for lone surviving Ku Klux Klan bomber who killed four black girls in Alab

We don't make near enough mistakes to invalidate the death penalty.

I am glad that you are volunteering to be that guy on death row.
Any mistake by the the state is unforgivable and worse not prosecutable.

I wonder how many in the justice system would agreed to suffer the same consequence for murdering an innocent person?
 
Re: Parole for lone surviving Ku Klux Klan bomber who killed four black girls in Alab

That dude getting paroled has served 53 years for his part of the crime. I guess he finally showed remorse. That and he may be dying. Either way, as much as I still hate him, he's served his time.
 
Re: Parole for lone surviving Ku Klux Klan bomber who killed four black girls in Alab

That dude getting paroled has served 53 years for his part of the crime. I guess he finally showed remorse. That and he may be dying. Either way, as much as I still hate him, he's served his time.

Not yet he hasn't.

Also how did this subject get turned into a death penalty discussion?
 
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