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Police denied service at Washington State resaurant

Absentglare said:
As i said, if the straw that broke the camels back rolls off, that does not mean that the camel bears no weight.



No, they didn't try to "rebrand" anything. You're just confused because you don't understand why they're protesting.
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I think it is YOU who doesn't understand why they are REALLY protesting.

You think these protests are about police officers or "systemic" racism?

HAH. Thats what they want you to think.

When police threw a BBQ Cookout FOR the BLM protesters, what happened? BLM claimed that city's "Chapter" was not following their guidelines because "this is not what we are about".

That is right, they are not about having a conversation with Law Enforcement and settling issues peacefully.
 
Fledermaus said:
Were his hands up when shot?
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The forensics suggest that the one arm that was shot was not raised at the time. We don't know about the other but it's reasonable to presume that they were both down.

Since i already answered this, i don't know why you're asking again. Do you think this proves that he never had his hands up ? If so, the majority of the eyewitnesses disagree with you. But you're happy to dispose of all the facts that disagree with you so that you can retain the purity of your faith in your personal narrative of an altercation that you were not privy to.

Fledermaus said:
Lie =/= truth.
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A false statement =/= lie
 
Caine said:
I think it is YOU who doesn't understand why they are REALLY protesting.

You think these protests are about police officers or "systemic" racism?

HAH. Thats what they want you to think.

When police threw a BBQ Cookout FOR the BLM protesters, what happened? BLM claimed that city's "Chapter" was not following their guidelines because "this is not what we are about".

That is right, they are not about having a conversation with Law Enforcement and settling issues peacefully.
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I don't know what you're talking about. If you're going to just assume that everyone is lying and that what's really going on is whatever your fantasy happens to be, i can't reason with you.

I don't know about any cookout that was denounced by BLM so maybe you can cite that.
 
Absentglare said:
The forensics suggest that the one arm that was shot was not raised at the time. We don't know about the other but it's reasonable to presume that they were both down.

Since i already answered this, i don't know why you're asking again. Do you think this proves that he never had his hands up ? If so, the majority of the eyewitnesses disagree with you. But you're happy to dispose of all the facts that disagree with you so that you can retain the purity of your faith in your personal narrative of an altercation that you were not privy to.



A false statement =/= lie
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Intentional false statements = lies.
 
Fledermaus said:
Yes, you are.

So, people CLAIMING something happened while they COULD NOT see it are, what?

Honestly making **** up?
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If you have a problem with the eyewitness testimonies gathered in the investigation, i don't blame you.

Uncertainty doesn't serve as proof of whatever version of the "truth" that you feel most certain of.
 
Absentglare said:
If you have a problem with the eyewitness testimonies gathered in the investigation, i don't blame you.

Uncertainty doesn't serve as proof of whatever version of the "truth" that you feel most certain of.
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That is why I go with the eyewitness testimony that is corroborated by yhe forensic findings.....

And the truth is you are the one weaving a fantasy about what happened.
 
Fledermaus said:
That is why I go with the eyewitness testimony that is corroborated by yhe forensic findings.....

And the truth is you are the one weaving a fantasy about what happened.
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You are entitled to your opinion, as i am entitled to my own.
 
Absentglare said:
I don't know what you're talking about. If you're going to just assume that everyone is lying and that what's really going on is whatever your fantasy happens to be, i can't reason with you.

I don't know about any cookout that was denounced by BLM so maybe you can cite that.
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Black Lives Matter protesters have friendly cookout with Wichita police - CBS News

and then......

Washington, D.C. BLM movement denounces Wichita cookout event | KSN-TV
BLM Denounces Friendly Cookout With Cops | The Daily Caller
BLM denounces cookout with local police – HYPELINE
 
Caine said:
Black Lives Matter protesters have friendly cookout with Wichita police - CBS News

and then......

Washington, D.C. BLM movement denounces Wichita cookout event | KSN-TV
BLM Denounces Friendly Cookout With Cops | The Daily Caller
BLM denounces cookout with local police – HYPELINE
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Great, so are you going to report on how BLM protestors went to a baseball game and then how they have to explain to you that the baseball game was NOT a BLM event ?

From your source :

"Both activists explain the event that took place Sunday was not a part of the Black Lives Matter movement. Rather, it was a way to be proactive with the Wichita Police Department."

Hmm...
 
Absentglare said:
Great, so are you going to report on how BLM protestors went to a baseball game and then how they have to explain to you that the baseball game was NOT a BLM event ?

From your source :

"Both activists explain the event that took place Sunday was not a part of the Black Lives Matter movement. Rather, it was a way to be proactive with the Wichita Police Department."

Hmm...
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I find it interesting you are ignoring the important part of the whole reason I posted this......
KSN Source said:
'A Black Lives Matter organization in Washington, D.C. is taking a shot at Wichita’s First Step Community Cook Out that took place last Sunday.

A tweet sent out by the Washington organization said, “This is not in line with our principles.”
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