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Russia To Release Hillary Intercepted Emails?

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Bernie must have dropped a quarter at the debate.

Moot said:
No, I just don't think that kind of filthy talk is necessary.
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:lamo
 
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eohrnberger said:
WikiLeaks may have enough to get Hillary indicted, but it seems that these documents have been posted by them for some time now.



Seems to have a nice boolean operator search function, and hard to imagine that of the documents obtained by FOIA request that there'd be any incriminating that have escaped Hillary and her troll's careful review and search. It's the ones she continues to hide and stall on that are probably more incriminating.
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I do not keep up with WikiLeaks enough to know if they may or may not have retained some of the more juicy items for later... or maybe even for some leverage under a potential Clinton presidency. Staying in an Ecuadorian embassy year after year must not be much fun.

I am also thinking that between all those that might be in possession of Clinton's, so far, not divulged to the public emails, either as valid government agencies ostensibly doing their jobs or the various hackers, those we know about [wiki, Russia, the Romanian] and those we do not know about that there just might be some incriminating material. From what I know of the situation, it is almost impossible that there is not this material out there.

What also has force is that the valid US government agencies, under the thumb of those who are political and who are not necessarily looking for the truth to see the light of day, have the sword of Damocles hanging over their heads. They hold the information as the official gatekeepers...but with many other possible non official doorways that may suddenly fly open. They do not know who or when one of those doors that they were unaware of may eventually let the cat out of the bag.

Besides, I am hoping, that if there is indeed [ which with all we know there certainly is overwhelming plausiblity of such] evidence of felonious and/or national security fiduciary wrongdoing on the part Hillary, that the FBI will have the integrity to inform we, the American people, of this fact so that we may take that into consideration come election time.
 
Gaugingcatenate said:
I do not keep up with WikiLeaks enough to know if they may or may not have retained some of the more juicy items for later... or maybe even for some leverage under a potential Clinton presidency. Staying in an Ecuadorian embassy year after year must not be much fun.

I am also thinking that between all those that might be in possession of Clinton's, so far, not divulged to the public emails, either as valid government agencies ostensibly doing their jobs or the various hackers, those we know about [wiki, Russia, the Romanian] and those we do not know about that there just might be some incriminating material. From what I know of the situation, it is almost impossible that there is not this material out there.

What also has force is that the valid US government agencies, under the thumb of those who are political and who are not necessarily looking for the truth to see the light of day, have the sword of Damocles hanging over their heads. They hold the information as the official gatekeepers...but with many other possible non official doorways that may suddenly fly open. They do not know who or when one of those doors that they were unaware of may eventually let the cat out of the bag.

Besides, I am hoping, that if there is indeed [ which with all we know there certainly is overwhelming plausiblity of such] evidence of felonious and/or national security fiduciary wrongdoing on the part Hillary, that the FBI will have the integrity to inform we, the American people, of this fact so that we may take that into consideration come election time.
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I think it a bit unrealistic for the Obama administration's politicized DOJ to permit the FBI to file criminal charges even if the case was air tight, probably under direction from the WH itself.

The FBI, already frustrated that they were denied filing criminal charges against General Petraeus, may or may not be similarly frustrated with the Hillary email investigation, as her alleged crimes are similar in nature to Petraeus'. Should the case be strong, but the politics stronger, I'd expect a disgruntled agent in the FBI to leak their FBI investigation documents anonymously to the public, and WikiLeaks, among others, are potential avenues to do so. Another source of this type of leak may be from Russia, if we are to believe the statements that are coming from there.

Should damaging Hillary emails be leaked, it would be a severe blow to Hillary's political capital, if she has any, and might very well cast a dark pall on her administration and thwart its initiatives and actions.
 
Moot said:
Yeah...that one. A lot of older people aren't as tech savvy as younger people that were raised with it. Plus, she has people to do the tech stuff for her....a lot of people do. And... has little bearing on US foreign policy.
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Oh yeah, how did that work out for her? Considering the topic of the thread and all. :lamo
 
eohrnberger said:
I think it a bit unrealistic for the Obama administration's politicized DOJ to permit the FBI to file criminal charges even if the case was air tight, probably under direction from the WH itself.

The FBI, already frustrated that they were denied filing criminal charges against General Petraeus, may or may not be similarly frustrated with the Hillary email investigation, as her alleged crimes are similar in nature to Petraeus'. Should the case be strong, but the politics stronger, I'd expect a disgruntled agent in the FBI to leak their FBI investigation documents anonymously to the public, and WikiLeaks, among others, are potential avenues to do so. Another source of this type of leak may be from Russia, if we are to believe the statements that are coming from there.

Should damaging Hillary emails be leaked, it would be a severe blow to Hillary's political capital, if she has any, and might very well cast a dark pall on her administration and thwart its initiatives and actions.
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I would say that is a fair and accurate analysis. Obama appoints those who already think like him, so he needs not specifically direct such denial of permission to file charges. Its like when the NYT send reporters out to cover a story, they do not have to tell them to be biased left, they were hired that way in the first place and so report that way without prodding. Am sure its pretty much the same way at Fox.

My impression of the the internal workings of what is necessary and proper to have access to and then to safeguard state secrets, it is not even really a question of whether she went outside the boundary of the applicable law.

But I guess it all depends on what the meaning of is is, in DC. All this will not matter to Democrat voters, just to the law abiding folk, maybe sufficient numbers of the independents and undecideds.
 
Gaugingcatenate said:
I would say that is a fair and accurate analysis. Obama appoints those who already think like him, so he needs not specifically direct such denial of permission to file charges. Its like when the NYT send reporters out to cover a story, they do not have to tell them to be biased left, they were hired that way in the first place and so report that way without prodding. Am sure its pretty much the same way at Fox.

My impression of the the internal workings of what is necessary and proper to have access to and then to safeguard state secrets, it is not even really a question of whether she went outside the boundary of the applicable law.

But I guess it all depends on what the meaning of is is, in DC. All this will not matter to Democrat voters, just to the law abiding folk, maybe sufficient numbers of the independents and undecideds.
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Meaning of 'is' is? LOL. Yeah, that.

I think it's pretty clear that justice has taken a back seat to political advantage in at least this administration if not DC as a whole.

All the more reason that the below is 100% truthful and on target.

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Moot said:
I'll believe it when I see it...the information that is. Because if all Wiki has are interceptions of her emails then wouldn't the State Department already have them on their system and checked through them and released the ones they didn't deem classified to the public?

A lot of people believed that Trump wouldn't win the nomination, either. But boy were they wrong and I think those who believe Hillary will get indicted will be wrong, too.
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Here's exactly what we know - what they want us to know.

What we don't know is that they have kept from us. We don't know why they have kept those things from us. It could well be that there were files clearly marked C, S, or TS that were forwarded on. It could be that some of those files or others may have been stripped of the classification code and forwarded by the State Department and/or Hillary as well. It could be that Hillary and/or Bill benefitted financially as a result of position while she was the Sec of State. Hell, there could be a file of comprising pictures involving a big Clinton Foundation donor and a goat named Fred. We don't know.

Is there already enough evidence for indictment? We don't know. However, what Wikileaks may publish could be files that have not been released by U.S. investigators.

If Lynch has decided to push yet another Clinton scandal under the carpet, many think Lynch has already made that decision, it might be that the government doesn't want all the facts presented to the People. Assange's actions could expose the truth, against the wishes of the political establishment. It would then be difficult for the government to once again give the Clinton's a pass.

We don't know.

I'd be willing to suggest that you do not trust your government. That is why Wikileaks/Assange/RT's impending data dump could be extremely important.
 
Risky Thicket said:
Here's exactly what we know - what they want us to know.

What we don't know is that they have kept from us. We don't know why they have kept those things from us. It could well be that there were files clearly marked C, S, or TS that were forwarded on. It could be that some of those files or others may have been stripped of the classification code and forwarded by the State Department and/or Hillary as well. It could be that Hillary and/or Bill benefitted financially as a result of position while she was the Sec of State. Hell, there could be a file of comprising pictures involving a big Clinton Foundation donor and a goat named Fred. We don't know.

Is there already enough evidence for indictment? We don't know. However, what Wikileaks may publish could be files that have not been released by U.S. investigators.

If Lynch has decided to push yet another Clinton scandal under the carpet, many think Lynch has already made that decision, it might be that the government doesn't want all the facts presented to the People. Assange's actions could expose the truth, against the wishes of the political establishment. It would then be difficult for the government to once again give the Clinton's a pass.

We don't know.

I'd be willing to suggest that you do not trust your government. That is why Wikileaks/Assange/RT's impending data dump could be extremely important.
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I really don't think Wiki- leaks has anything of value that would tip the boat over. What the hacker released the other day from the DNC was largely negligible.

One thing we do know is that Benghazi was a political kabuki charade and failed. Tray Gowdy's eleven hour inquisition was a failure. And as the worm turns it's starting to look the email nonsense is a failure, too.

It was a rightwing three ring circus and the only thing they managed to prove is that there's "a sucker born every minute."
 
MickeyW said:
It's not desperation....it's been an ongoing battle against this Lying, Crooked bitch, to put her in prison............ for over 20 years now!

Stop pretending she isn't guilty of everything said about her.

She is as vindictive and evil as anyone can be.....and may be fooling lots of people, but has never fooled me.

And if she picks Pocahontas for VP, it will be the Devil leading the Dope.
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Have you considered therapy for your unhealthy obsession? What will you do when she's in the Whitehouse? Will you need depression meds?
 
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