I didn't think I said anything about "most"?
Do you deny that some are opposed now?
Do you deny that as more become aware of the cost, they will also be opposed?
No, my most comment was directed on your comment:
Excon said:
Exactly.
And when the public finds out how much it costs, as compared to the outcome of the case? It will happen.
To that my answer was "sorry, but I am not sure most Dutch will see it like that." as in, sorry, but even when the costs are known most Dutch people will not mind even if the result is not what everyone hopes it will be. But that is still some way in the future and I cannot say how it will turn out. Who knows, maybe it will lead to her killer and then nobody (or almost nobody will say anything about how much it cost).
And FYI just in case you did not know
, the Dutch are world class complainers about anything from tot weather to the latest installment of the voice of Holland or how the referee made a bad decision that cost ones favorite club to loose, etc. etc. etc.
Honestly, I find that hard to believe.
Are you going to bankrupt the city just to get one conviction? I would hope not.
How about the Country?
Those things would be foolish to do.
There are limits.
I asked what yours were.
But investigations are a matter of the state, not the city police and anyway, no city will ever go bankrupt due to a police investigation into a murder.
And my limit? As long as it concerns something like murder I do not want to limit it at any price, it will costs what it will cost. You cannot put a price on justice IMHO.
And in Google translate it says the same. Or close enough.
Here is what is odd about that, as I previously mentioned.
In English even.
It would seem to me that the more specific story of the lighter, coming from the public prosecutor’s office, would be the more accurate one. While the statement on the Police's site was formulated to cause the least objection amongst the populace.
Regardless, there are two conflicting stories here.
Again. The more specific was the lighter as released by the public prosecutors office. So I will stick with that for now.
I can assure you, my translating skills are way better than Googles :lol:
The cigarette lighter issue is not more specific, it is just the matter of not being able to read Dutch news stories I would assume.
This comment was made by SBS evening news:
Daarna gaat het NFI al het verzamelde materiaal vergelijken met het DNA van de dader. Dit werd gevonden op het lichaam van Marianne en op een aansteker die in haar tas zat. Over een half jaar hoopt het NFI te weten of er een match is.
or translated in English, and hopefully I will not get in trouble for leaving the Dutch comment here too because it is against the rules to post foreign language here:
Ater that the NFI will compare all the collected material with the DNA of the perpetrator. This was found on the body of Marianne and on a lighter that was in her purse. In about 6 months time the NFI hopes to know whether or not there was a match
Here is the link so you can google check it too if you want to.
Voorbereidingen grootschalig DNA-onderzoek in volle gang – Hart van Nederland
And here is a news story from the AD newspaper:
Aansteker met DNA
In de tas die Vaatstra bij zich had toen ze werd omgebracht, zat een aansteker, die niet van haar was en waarin onlangs een haar is gevonden met hetzelfde DNA-profiel als het eerder gevonden DNA in het sperma dat op het lichaam van Vaatstra werd gevonden.
Op het lichaam van Vaatstra werd destijds een volledig DNA-profiel gevonden. Door de sterk verbeterde technieken is het nu beter mogelijk om geografisch herkomst van DNA te vinden. Daaruit komen aanwijzingen dat de dader uit de buurt zou kunnen komen.
and translated in English it reads,
Lighter with DNA
In the purse Vaastra had with her when she was killed, there was a lighter that did not belong to her and in which not too long ago a hair was found with the same DNA profile as the DNA proflie that had earlier been found in the seamen that was found on the body of Vaatstra.
On the body of Vaatstra they previously found a full DNA profile. Due to the greatly improved forensic techniques, it is easier to correlate geographic origins of DNA profiles. This has lead to clues that the perpetrator could be a local man.
the link is
'Vaatstra kende wellicht haar moordenaar' - AD.nl
The lighter is important because it also contains the same DNA profile as the seamen on her body. Also, the DNA profile is from around there and the lighter was also sold in the area of where she went missing. Combine this with the fact that the killer used a bike (push bike, not a motorized one) and it becomes pretty clear to the police that most likely the killer was a local man.
The police also suspect that she knew her killer but this hopefully will all be found out in the investigation that will follow the DNA results. So, as you can read it is not a case of 2 stories but combined stories.
Since I was speaking from the point of an opinion, you are just listing that which I already said I disagree with. There is a limit to solving any crime.
And I was just saying that we in the Netherlands to have loads of crimes with statutes of limitations but that these do not apply to cases like murder. How is that listing that which you already said you disagreed with.
You might have giving your opinion but I am also allowed to give you mine IMHO.