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    Re: The real Che Guevara

    Che, the radical left symbol, was a homophobe. He played a principal role in setting up Cuba's first labor camp in the Guanahacabibes region in western Cuba in 1960-1961. This camp was the precursor to the eventual systematic confinement, starting in 1965 in the province of Camagüey, of dissidents, homosexuals, Catholics, Jehovah's Witnesses, Afro-Cuban priests, and "other such scum" according to the regime, under the banner of UMAP, Military Units to Help Production.

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    Re: The real Che Guevara

    Che Guevara’s Pope
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    Pope Francis’s address to Congress will prove a concluding flourish to the descent of the Catholic Church into an accessory for modern man’s temptation toward totalitarianism.



    By Maureen Mullarkey
    September 24, 2015

    We must struggle every day so that this love of humanity becomes a reality. — Che Guevara

    I am writing this on the eve of Pope Francis’ address to the joint session of Congress. Permit me a confession of distaste for tomorrow’s extravaganza and disinterest in the details of a media-conscious homily to the nation.

    In large measure, Thursday’s propaganda event will prove a concluding flourish to what this pope is on course to achieve: the descent of the Catholic Church into one more geopolitical “ism,” a pious-seeming companion to every other materialist -ism that tempts modern man away from freedom and toward submission to totalitarian order. Since ascending to the papacy, Francis’ actions have served a mongrel papo-caesarism that drains Christianity of its soul. Christian idiom degrades into the carrier of a secular agenda....

    Pope Francis’s Malice

    Something in me gave way at the sight of an exultant image of Che Guevara overseeing the altar in Plaza de la Revolución, the approved site of the recent papal Mass in Havana. A sadistic, murderous thug looked down on attendees in an obscene burlesque of Christ Pantocrator. Under the gaze of a butcher and amid symbols of the regime, Jorge Bergolio joined his fellow Argentine in service to the calamitous Cuban revolution. The entire spectacle played like a farcical inversion of John Paul II’s presence in Warsaw’s Victory Square, in 1979, and in stark contrast to the message he brought to Cuba in 1998. https://www.aei.org/publication/in-h...-john-paul-ii/


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    This is great article and at the same time perturbing. There are many discrepancies in Pope Francis words. He did not criticized the Castroit regime, rather he celebrated Mass in the Plaza Cívica (de la Revolución) with the image of Che Guevara looking down at him.

    Excerpts from "Che Guevara: The Fish Die by the Mouth” (Cuba: Che Guevara: The Fish Die by the Mouth)

    "Those who attempt to present Che as a philanthropist of firm Christian values, the answer is given to them in this excerpt of the letter he wrote to his mother on July 15, 1956 from a Mexican prison: “I am not Christ nor a philanthropist, I'm quite the opposite of Christ, and philanthropy seems to me something of....(illegible word), I fight for the things I believe in with all the weapons at my disposal, and try to leave the other dead to avoid myself to be nailed to a cross or anything else.”

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    Exerpt from the article "Che Guevara’s Pope":

    Pope Francis’s Malice

    Something in me gave way at the sight of an exultant image of Che Guevara overseeing the altar in Plaza de la Revolución, the approved site of the recent papal Mass in Havana. A sadistic, murderous thug looked down on attendees in an obscene burlesque of Christ Pantocrator. Under the gaze of a butcher and amid symbols of the regime, Jorge Bergolio joined his fellow Argentine in service to the calamitous Cuban revolution. The entire spectacle played like a farcical inversion of John Paul II’s presence in Warsaw’s Victory Square, in 1979, and in stark contrast to the message he brought to Cuba in 1998. https://www.aei.org/publication/in-h...-john-paul-ii/

    Che wrote in his diary: “….to executes a human being is something ugly, but exemplary. From now on nobody here will refer to me again as the tooth-drawer of the guerrilla.” In a letter to his father referring to this execution he writes: "I'd like to confess, papa, at that moment I discovered that I really like killing."

    In “Notas de Viaje” he wrote the following comment that he called “Notas en el Margen”: “…and I know, because I see it printed in the night, that I, the eclectic dissector of doctrines and psychoanalyst of dogmas, howling like possessed, will assault the barricades or trenches, will stain in blood my weapon and, mad of fury, will slit the throats of any defeated who fall into my hands… And I feel my nostrils dilated, savoring the acrid smell of gunpowder and blood, of dead enemy; now I tense my body, ready for the fight, and I prepare my being as a sacred place so that it resurrects with new vibrations and new hopes the bestial howling of the triumphant proletariat."

    This photo of Pope Francis celebrating Mass with the image of Che looking upon him, desecrates the memory of young Cuban Catholic martyrs who were shot by Che firing squads and died shouting “Viva Cristo Rey!” (Long live Christ the King!)

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    Re: The real Che Guevara

    When Fidel Castro took over Cuba in 1959, more than 1,000 men, teenagers and women , many of them Catholic, were executed by firing squads, and they died shouting “Long live Christ the King!”, a demonstration of their spiritual and moral integrity. Soon afterwards many priests and nuns were expelled from the island, and Fidel acknowledged to be a Marxist-Leninist and declared Cuba an atheist state. His government actively suppressed religion in the island for decades.

    There is a big difference between Pope Francis statement to the Cuban people in 2015 and Pope John Paul II message delivered to them in 1998.

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    The Pope supposedly have great concern for the poor. Why then, he condemn the Capitalist system that had persistently raised the living standards of the poor? After all the Communist system, except for the nomenclature, had impoverished all the people and crumbled from within.

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    The Pope criticism of the Capitalist system should be balance by criticism of the Communist system. Capitalism, so far, had been the best system to mitigate poverty in the world, and has much better track record of human rights than other systems. Pope Francis evidently has not taking these factor into consideration. Capisce?

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    Pope Francis good intentions sometimes have negative consequences. Doing what he thinks is right, cause harm to those he is trying to help. His deference toward the Castroit regime is an example of it. He lack the appreciation that the regime is driven by envy and hate, not by love like the church.

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    Re: The real Che Guevara

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    Re: The real Che Guevara

    I went to Cuba 6 years ago, and the one thing that struck me most was the amount of Che merchandise they were trying desperately and unsuccessfully to flog. There were Che hats, tee shirts, coffee mugs, and every other you-name-it you could imagine, but all of it seemed to stay on the shelves. I only saw a couple of people actually wearing that crap.
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    Fidel We need to save those poor slobs in Cuba from the U.S. backed tyrannical oppressor, and install our very own specialized form of oppression.

    Che: Let's roll!
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