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    Venezuelan scavengers vie with vultures for Brazilian trash

    Venezuelan scavengers vie with vultures for Brazilian trash



    4/16/19
    PACARAIMA, Brazil (Reuters) - Surrounded by vultures perched on trees awaiting their turn, Venezuelan migrants scrape out a living scavenging for metal, plastic, cardboard and food in a Brazilian border town’s rubbish dump. Trapped in a wasteland limbo, they barely make enough to feed their families and cannot afford a bus ticket to get away and find regular work in Brazilian cities to the south. They blame leftist President Nicolas Maduro for mismanaging their oil-producing nation’s economy and causing the deep crisis that has driven several million Venezuelans to emigrate across Latin America. “I left because I was dying of hunger. We are trying to get ahead looking through this rubbish. Every night I pray to God to take me out of here,” said Rosemary Tovar, a 23-year-old mother from Caracas. Tens of thousands of Venezuelans have fled the political and economic upheaval in their country through Pacaraima, the only road crossing to Brazil, overloading social services and causing tension in the northern border state of Roraima. More than 40,000 Venezuelans have swollen the population of state capital Boa Vista by 11 percent, Mayor Tereza Surita told Reuters.

    A dozen Venezuelans scramble to grab bags of rubbish that tumble from the Pacaraima trash truck twice a day. They then sift through the piles as fetid plumes of smoke rise from the smoldering landfill. Sometimes they scavenge at night using headlamps. “We are looking for copper and cans, and hopefully something valuable, even food,” said Astrid Prado, who is eight months pregnant. “My goal is to get out of here. Nobody wants to spend their life going through garbage.” Charly Sanchez, 42, arrived in Brazil a year ago and has not been able to get to Boa Vista to get his work papers so that he can find employment. “We live off this. We make enough to buy rice, maybe some sausage, but not enough to buy a ticket to Boa Vista,” he said. On a lucky day he said he had found a discarded cellphone, but not today. Some spaghetti, a small jar of sugar and a bit of cooking oil was Sanchez’s pickings for the day. Tovar criticized Maduro for denying that Venezuela is facing a humanitarian crisis. “He is so wrong. Look at us here in this dump,” she said. “If Maduro does not leave Venezuela, I will never return there.”
    Quite right. Maduro has literally turned Venezuela's economy into a stinking mess.


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    Re: Venezuelan scavengers vie with vultures for Brazilian trash

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    Quite right. Maduro has literally turned Venezuela's economy into a stinking mess.
    Reminds me of Somalia...

    When the Saudis quit throwing their trash over the barrier wall the Somalis started a food riot.
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    Re: Venezuelan scavengers vie with vultures for Brazilian trash

    The poor of Brazil and Columbia also pick through garbage dumps to survive until, in the case of Brazil, they are driven off by the armed authorities. Notice the vultures too.

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    From: As A Massive Garbage Dump Closes In Brazil, Trash-Pickers Face An Uncertain Future : Parallels : NPR

    Poverty and desperation in South America are not limited to Venezuela alone. Nor is state sponsered violence against the state's own people. As bad as the Maduro regime is, it is far behind Brazil and Columbia in human rights abuses. Venezuelans must be the ones that change Venezuela for the better, not the foreign powers of America, Brazil and Columbia by cooperative economic, unconventional and often-threatened overt military action. Ironically the real vultures in this sad assault on the Venezuelan state are the foreign neo-liberals looking to tear off control of the rich oil production from the battered carcass of the Venezuelan state, bled by manifest destiny and pommelled by the Munroe Doctrine as per John Bolton's recent public statements.

    And now the aggression is widening to engulf Cuba and Nicaragua too. The leviathan of the north will never be satisfied. It's time to burn the public buildings of Washington DC once again and I hope the American people are up to the job. Regime change is needed now in America far more than in Latin America and it's time that Mr. Trump, Mr. Pompeo, Mr. Bolton, Mr. Minuchen and Mr. Abrams should be removed from their offices and tried for attacking foreign states without Congressional authorisation and for contributing to crimes against humanity by destabilising already shaky states.

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    Re: Venezuelan scavengers vie with vultures for Brazilian trash

    Quote Originally Posted by Evilroddy View Post
    The poor of Brazil and Columbia also pick through garbage dumps to survive until, in the case of Brazil, they are driven off by the armed authorities. Notice the vultures too.

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    From: As A Massive Garbage Dump Closes In Brazil, Trash-Pickers Face An Uncertain Future : Parallels : NPR

    Poverty and desperation in South America are not limited to Venezuela alone. Nor is state sponsered violence against the state's own people. As bad as the Maduro regime is, it is far behind Brazil and Columbia in human rights abuses. Venezuelans must be the ones that change Venezuela for the better, not the foreign powers of America, Brazil and Columbia by cooperative economic, unconventional and often-threatened overt military action. Ironically the real vultures in this sad assault on the Venezuelan state are the foreign neo-liberals looking to tear off control of the rich oil production from the battered carcass of the Venezuelan state, bled by manifest destiny and pommelled by the Munroe Doctrine as per John Bolton's recent public statements.

    And now the aggression is widening to engulf Cuba and Nicaragua too. The leviathan of the north will never be satisfied. It's time to burn the public buildings of Washington DC once again and I hope the American people are up to the job. Regime change is needed now in America far more than in Latin America and it's time that Mr. Trump, Mr. Pompeo, Mr. Bolton, Mr. Minuchen and Mr. Abrams should be removed from their offices and tried for attacking foreign states without Congressional authorisation and for contributing to crimes against humanity by destabilising already shaky states.

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    Are you actually making a "whataboutism" defense of starvation and ruin in Venezuela?
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    Re: Venezuelan scavengers vie with vultures for Brazilian trash

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Are you actually making a "whataboutism" defense of starvation and ruin in Venezuela?
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    Not whataboutism at all. Columbia and Brazil are directly involved in this unconventional warfare led by the USA. Therefore, since the pretext for regime change in Venezuela is largely based on how the Maduro Regime is allegedly mistreating and depriving its people of the necessities for life, the humanitarian angle for regime change must be compared to the humanitarian records of the states which the US hegemon has enlisted to help it change regimes in Venezuela. Thus not whataboutism. The Columbian regime has tens of thousands of victims dead and poverty is as bad as in Venezuela (pre the 2017 round of sanctions and trade interference imposed by the USA and its allies). The Brazilian record in poverty relief has been poor, even under the left-wing leadership of Lula and Rousseff but was much worse before and after them. The Brazilian record in human rights is very poor and considering the the sitting president of Brazil has endorsed that historical violence and is emulating it once again (right now) that is germane to proving the moral bankruptcy of the US-led efforts to paint Venezuela as an exceptionally atypical regime in Latin America, when it is not. Two of the most vicious Latin American regimes are active participants in this humanitarian regime change facade and that needs to be pointed out and highlighted to objectively evaluate the credibility of US claims about regime change.

    Maduro and his clique have to go, but their removal must come by the Venezuelan people doing so, hopefully peacefully. Maduro has been able to use the threat of foreign economic and military intervention to expand his hard power, to mobilise collectivos and to turn the Venezuelan Bolivarian state into an Egyptian-style military junta where the army controls the key levers of the economy. The threats and actions of the USA have been as instrumental to this perversion of the Bolivarian State as has been the greed and corruption of the Maduro Regime. Given that your foreign policy has played a significant role in creating this mess in Venezuela, your state's claims of wanting to do this for humanitarian reasons rings hollow and empty. This is about squashing socialism, deterring economic nationalism and feeding the insatiable neo-liberal appetite for resources (oil, minerals and cheap labour) by using neo-conservative militarism and intervention to achieve those goals. The humanitarianism is just kabuki theatre which is why international aid agencies have abjured the US-led humanitarian programme and are working independently to deliver aid to Venezuelans in need.

    Whataboutism would be me citing the US role in supporting the present Honduran regime despite flagrant election fraud in last year's election plus brutal repression of an angry grass-roots opposition and supporting that evil regime as it and drought are driving Hondurans from their homes and farms to seek refuge in America. In an America where they are vilified and where they are dehumanised, then caged, separated from their children and deported despite the US policy in their home country which created their misery. That's whataboutism and therefore I would not do it without admitting openly that it is and is being used as a rhetorical device. I openly admit that my last paragraph was whataboutism and used for rhetorical impact.

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    Re: Venezuelan scavengers vie with vultures for Brazilian trash

    Quote Originally Posted by Evilroddy View Post
    Jack Hays:

    Not whataboutism at all. Columbia and Brazil are directly involved in this unconventional warfare led by the USA. . . .
    Cheers.
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    "unconventional warfare led by the USA" -- There is no such thing in Venezuela.

    Your post is mere whataboutism because you are defending the indefensible.
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    Re: Venezuelan scavengers vie with vultures for Brazilian trash

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    "unconventional warfare led by the USA" -- There is no such thing in Venezuela.

    Your post is mere whataboutism because you are defending the indefensible.
    Jack Hays:

    That's your style JH. Clip the quote to remove the jusitifying argument and then declare an opinion of yours as a fact. Have a nice day as you twist what others say in order to give false foundation to your opinions.

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    Take tips, leftists...its your future.

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    Re: Venezuelan scavengers vie with vultures for Brazilian trash

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    Wow. Is that gonna happen in Canada and Sweden and New Zealand? I guess it's a good thing we're all enjoying life while we can, huh.
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