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Venezuela is even worse than you have heard

SDET

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I am near the border in Cucuta, Colombia. After visiting the makeshift village that's near the Simon Bolivar bridge, I spoke to a dozen or so people and perhaps half enter Colombia illegally, buy stuff then go back to Urena which has been without water and power for five days. Many official security personnel have abandoned their posts and criminal colectivos charge USD 0.50 to USD 2.00 to allow passage through the woods and the Tachira river bed. The river is almost dry. The border is officially closed. Existence on the Venezuelan side is a living hell.
 
If only they had your hero Pinochet to lead them. Just need to torture and murder a few thousand dissidents and all would be well...
 
Geoist said:
If only they had your hero Pinochet to lead them. Just need to torture and murder a few thousand dissidents and all would be well...
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Maduro is Venezuela's equivalent of Salvador Allende. Castro is the common thread.
 
We’re pulling out our diplomats. Trump may be ready to play his war card.
 
I know what we can do. Just bring everyone from every country whose people have turned their country into a nightmare to our country and everything will be great.
 
I’m reading the news and sdet is understating the building humanitarian catastrophe, if anything.
 
Cardinal said:
I’m reading the news and sdet is understating the building humanitarian catastrophe, if anything.
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What role did U.S. sanctions play in the humanitarian crisis?
 
Winston said:
What role did U.S. sanctions play in the humanitarian crisis?
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I imagine that it would be rather hard to quantify the effect of economic sanctions a would have had on a country that had already slipped into utter economic dissolution due to a level of mismanagement that a country can only achieve through centralized economic control and planning combined with utter incompetence and corrupt cronyism. Much of like asking what further damage would be caused by throwing a can of kerosene on a house already completely engulfed in flames.
 
Felis Leo said:
I imagine that it would be rather hard to quantify the effect of economic sanctions a would have had on a country that had already slipped into utter economic dissolution due to a level of mismanagement that a country can only achieve through centralized economic control and planning combined with utter incompetence and corrupt cronyism. Much of like asking what further damage would be caused by throwing a can of kerosene on a house already completely engulfed in flames.
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I'm still curious. I know of the food shortages and hyper inflation that predate the sanctions. I'd still like to know more about how the U.S. sanctions affected Venezuela.
 
Winston said:
I'm still curious. I know of the food shortages and hyper inflation that predate the sanctions. I'd still like to know more about how the U.S. sanctions affected Venezuela.
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Well, if you want to read far-left websites that act tut-tut or act as outright apologists for the Maduro regime and Bolivarian Socialism, the folks at venezuelanalysis.com can provide all the one-sided information that one could ever wish to have to confirm an anti-interventionist political stance. According to the former UN Rapporteur Alfred De Zayas, he claims the United States Sanctions are killing Venezuelan citizens.

Of course, his main sources of information are:

Mr De Zayas’s findings are based on his late-2017 mission to the country and interviews with 12 Venezuelan government minsters, opposition politicians, 35 NGOs working in the country, academics, church officials, activists, chambers of commerce and regional UN agencies.
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In other words, his report was based on statements made to him by members of the Maduro regime or entities dependent on the regime's largesse and good graces for their continued survival. And no autocratic socialist government in history to my knowledge has ever attributed any difficulties facing the country over which they rule to problems created by the leadership. So are the sanctions causing problems within the country? Maybe. But I would be careful trusting the apologists of the Maduro Regime to explain to me their impact because they have every reason to minimize the crimes and corruption of the regime and inflate the impact of sanctions.
 
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I'd be interested in watching an unbiased ground-level documentary on the current state of Venezuela if there's one around.
 
Felis Leo said:
Well, if you want to read far-left websites that act tut-tut or act as outright apologists for the Maduro regime and Bolivarian Socialism, the folks at venezuelanalysis.com can provide all the one-sided information that one could ever wish to have to confirm an anti-interventionist political stance. According to the former UN Rapporteur Alfred De Zayas, he claims the United States Sanctions are killing Venezuelan citizens.

Of course, his main sources of information are:



In other words, his report was based on statements made to him by the Maduro regime or entities dependent on the regime's largesse for their continued survival. And no autocratic socialist government in history to my knowledge has ever attributed any difficulties facing the country over which they rule to problems created by the leadership. So are the sanctions causing problems within the country? Maybe. But I would be careful trusting the apologists of the Maduro Regime to explain to me their impact because they have every reason to minimize the crimes and corruption of the regime and inflate the impact of sanctions.
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Will look into it tomorrow. Thank you for retrieving information. Night dude.
 
Northern Light said:
I'd be interested in watching an unbiased ground-level documentary on the current state of Venezuela if there's one around.
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If you have the balls to do it, it costs $2 to illegally enter Venezuela on a "trocha" (trail). You can see firsthand.
 
Northern Light said:
I'd be interested in watching an unbiased ground-level documentary on the current state of Venezuela if there's one around.
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Northern Light:

You might check out Max Blumenthal's reports at GrayZone and his videos on YouTube for an on the ground look at what was going on in Venezuela up to about ten days ago when he returned to the USA.

Cheers.
Evilroddy.
 
SDET said:
If you have the balls to do it, it costs $2 to illegally enter Venezuela on a "trocha" (trail). You can see firsthand.
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I ask for a documentary and you tell me to go there? Real practical, lol
 
Cardinal said:
We’re pulling out our diplomats. Trump may be ready to play his war card.
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Doubt it.

He could be getting them out of harm's way in case the **** really starts hitting the fan. And if this blackout continues, it will. The people will get pissed and say "that's it" and the uprising will be on.
 
Geoist said:
If only they had your hero Pinochet to lead them. Just need to torture and murder a few thousand dissidents and all would be well...
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Rumor has it that Marco Rubio is going to become Guaido's vice president, and they have agreed to turn the power back on. ;)
 
SDET said:
I am near the border in Cucuta, Colombia. After visiting the makeshift village that's near the Simon Bolivar bridge, I spoke to a dozen or so people and perhaps half enter Colombia illegally, buy stuff then go back to Urena which has been without water and power for five days. Many official security personnel have abandoned their posts and criminal colectivos charge USD 0.50 to USD 2.00 to allow passage through the woods and the Tachira river bed. The river is almost dry. The border is officially closed. Existence on the Venezuelan side is a living hell.
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Venezuela sounds like Honduras. Maybe Colombia should build a wall.
 
SDET said:
Maduro is Venezuela's equivalent of Salvador Allende. Castro is the common thread.
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Was Pinochet not responsible for the torture and murder of thousands of accused dissidents?
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
I hope not.
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I hope not as well, venezuala does not have the means to halt a us invasion by itself, but does hold the means to make it hurt badly. They possess a metric crapton of tanks everything from antique french and british tanks to modern russian tanks, they possess a decent amount of russian su30 aircraft as well as american f-16 aircraft, they also have multiple s-300 batteries as well as one of the highest concentrations on earth of manpads, meaning if the venezualan military was even semi competent and exploited the jungle terrain, us losses would exceed the value of taking venezuala.
 
beerftw said:
I hope not as well, venezuala does not have the means to halt a us invasion by itself, but does hold the means to make it hurt badly. They possess a metric crapton of tanks everything from antique french and british tanks to modern russian tanks, they possess a decent amount of russian su30 aircraft as well as american f-16 aircraft, they also have multiple s-300 batteries as well as one of the highest concentrations on earth of manpads, meaning if the venezualan military was even semi competent and exploited the jungle terrain, us losses would exceed the value of taking venezuala.
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The battle will be over in less than a month. They are no match for us. It is the nation building that always follows so the rich and powerful who own our government can exploit their resources. That will cost the American people billions if not trillions.
 
Northern Light said:
I'd be interested in watching an unbiased ground-level documentary on the current state of Venezuela if there's one around.
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Here is one about the health system:


Al Jazeera English has many good videos and some documentaries from the last few years. Like:
 
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