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Venezuela's Nicolas Maduro: Where could he escape?

You've been failed by the fountain of misinformation spread into your cerebellum by the MSM/gubmint/CIA narrative. You couldn't find the real world with a seeing eye dog and a braille guide. We are those killers that are csusing chaos, death and destruction around the World. One more time, Libya, Syria, Iraq, Vietnam, Ukraine, Haiti, Granada, Guatamala, Panama, Honduras, Chile, and just count the bodies. That's those facts you are denying. 20 million dead and you think we are trying to help Venezuela. It must be your job to deny the truth. I hope it pays good. You are a fascist tool spreading propaganda.

Maduro is elected in a true Democracy. You don't live in one.
Guaido is a simple fraud.
The USA soesn't want to help Venezuela, it wants OIL for Corporatism.
The USA/CIA/USAID/NED the ones that have elected Guaido.
It's the poor of Venezuela that are the ones who will be screwed.

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DaveFagan said:
You've been failed by the fountain of misinformation spread into your cerebellum by the MSM/gubmint/CIA narrative. You couldn't find the real world with a seeing eye dog and a braille guide. We are those killers that are csusing chaos, death and destruction around the World. One more time, Libya, Syria, Iraq, Vietnam, Ukraine, Haiti, Granada, Guatamala, Panama, Honduras, Chile, and just count the bodies. That's those facts you are denying. 20 million dead and you think we are trying to help Venezuela. It must be your job to deny the truth. I hope it pays good. You are a fascist tool spreading propaganda.

Maduro is elected in a true Democracy. You don't live in one.
Guaido is a simple fraud.
The USA soesn't want to help Venezuela, it wants OIL for Corporatism.
The USA/CIA/USAID/NED the ones that have elected Guaido.
It's the poor of Venezuela that are the ones who will be screwed.

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Courageously not quoting me I see.

So far the only person spouting disinformation has been you. You were ignorant of the Venezuelan constitution. You parroted the party line with the coup d'etat nonsense. You lied about the causes of the current economic woes. You prattle about oil embargo while being ignorant of the facts.

You regurgitate that list as if it really matters. You support of murderous dictatorships has been noted for some time. No need to continue along that vein.

You refuse to admit aid is one its way but has been blocked by Maduro.

You consider fraudulent and sham elections "True democracy".

As to oil IT STILL FLOWS. You appear blind to that fact. Chavez sold oil to the US. Maduro sold oil the the US. If it were "for oil" the status quo would be fine since the oil never stopped flowing.

No one but the National Assembly selected Guiado. Stop lying.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Anyone can go off into Crazytown, provide the citation for the above assertion.
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Simple uncensored USA history. 20 million dead, killed by USA, since WWII. Iraq, Libya, Syria, Ukraine, Haiti, Honduras, Guatamala, Panama, Granada, Nicaragua, Chile, and more using the same Modus Operandi. You're supporting the same thing in Venezuela.
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DaveFagan said:
Simple uncensored USA history. 20 million dead, killed by USA, since WWII. Iraq, Libya, Syria, Ukraine, Haiti, Honduras, Guatamala, Panama, Granada, Nicaragua, Chile, and more using the same Modus Operandi. You're supporting the same thing in Venezuela.
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Your support for murderous dictators and one party nations (as long as they are ANTI-US) has been known for some time now.

You also consider sham or show elections "Real Democracy"....
 
Fledermaus said:
Your support for murderous dictators and one party nations (as long as they are ANTI-US) has been known for some time now.

You also consider sham or show elections "Real Democracy"....
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"Simple uncensored USA history. 20 million dead, killed by USA, since WWII. Iraq, Libya, Syria, Ukraine, Haiti, Honduras, Guatamala, Panama, Granada, Nicaragua, Chile, and more using the same Modus Operandi. You're supporting the same thing in Venezuela." YOU don't support democracy or you would attempt to intiiate Democracy in the USA. YOU support the killing of 20 million. You support overthrow of Governments.

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DaveFagan said:
"Simple uncensored USA history. 20 million dead, killed by USA, since WWII. Iraq, Libya, Syria, Ukraine, Haiti, Honduras, Guatamala, Panama, Granada, Nicaragua, Chile, and more using the same Modus Operandi. You're supporting the same thing in Venezuela." YOU don't support democracy or you would attempt to intiiate Democracy in the USA. YOU support the killing of 20 million. You support overthrow of Governments.

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We know you idolize one party nations and dictatorships. You bemoan the removal of dictatorships....

You continue to demonstrate that.

Spam the list a few more times.

You still understand squat about Venezuela beyond what RT.COM told you.
 
Fledermaus said:
We know you idolize one party nations and dictatorships. You bemoan the removal of dictatorships....

You continue to demonstrate that.

Spam the list a few more times.

You still understand squat about Venezuela beyond what RT.COM told you.
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Maduro doesn't need to excape because Venezuelans love him. He, unlike you, doesn't want millions dead. You should complain to RT.COM if they are stealing my schtick. Theri reporters are apparently slower than me. I presume I must be days ahead of them, but I wouldn't know. Maybe they'll send me a check, eh? How much does the DoD pay you to regurgitate the NeoCon narrative?
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Simple uncensored USA history. 20 million dead, killed by USA, since WWII. Iraq, Libya, Syria, Ukraine, Haiti, Honduras, Guatamala, Panama, Granada, Nicaragua, Chile, and more using the same Modus Operandi. You're supporting the same thing in Venezuela."

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DaveFagan said:
Maduro doesn't need to excape because Venezuelans love him. He, unlike you, doesn't want millions dead. You should complain to RT.COM if they are stealing my schtick. Theri reporters are apparently slower than me. I presume I must be days ahead of them, but I wouldn't know. Maybe they'll send me a check, eh? How much does the DoD pay you to regurgitate the NeoCon narrative?
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Simple uncensored USA history. 20 million dead, killed by USA, since WWII. Iraq, Libya, Syria, Ukraine, Haiti, Honduras, Guatamala, Panama, Granada, Nicaragua, Chile, and more using the same Modus Operandi. You're supporting the same thing in Venezuela."

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https://www.debatepolitics.com/redi...laundered-over-2b-through-luxury-real-estate/

Not to mention Maduro moving tens of millions of $'s in gold through a Turkish company to personal accounts, while Venezuelans starve and die from lack of medical supplies as he blo
 
DaveFagan said:
Maduro doesn't need to excape because Venezuelans love him. He, unlike you, doesn't want millions dead. You should complain to RT.COM if they are stealing my schtick. Theri reporters are apparently slower than me. I presume I must be days ahead of them, but I wouldn't know. Maybe they'll send me a check, eh? How much does the DoD pay you to regurgitate the NeoCon narrative?
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Simple uncensored USA history. 20 million dead, killed by USA, since WWII. Iraq, Libya, Syria, Ukraine, Haiti, Honduras, Guatamala, Panama, Granada, Nicaragua, Chile, and more using the same Modus Operandi. You're supporting the same thing in Venezuela."

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They love Maduro so much 4 million have left.

They love Maduro so much they rioted and were shot down leading to sanctions.

They love Maduro so much they continue to riot even after being shot enmass...

And yes, we know you love your dictators and one party nations.
 
DaveFagan said:
Maduro doesn't need to excape because Venezuelans love him. He, unlike you, doesn't want millions dead. You should complain to RT.COM if they are stealing my schtick. Theri reporters are apparently slower than me. I presume I must be days ahead of them, but I wouldn't know. Maybe they'll send me a check, eh? How much does the DoD pay you to regurgitate the NeoCon narrative?
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Simple uncensored USA history. 20 million dead, killed by USA, since WWII. Iraq, Libya, Syria, Ukraine, Haiti, Honduras, Guatamala, Panama, Granada, Nicaragua, Chile, and more using the same Modus Operandi. You're supporting the same thing in Venezuela."

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Citation for 20 million dead by the US....
 
Rogue Valley said:
As Maduro Digs in, His Aides Hunt for an Emergency Escape Route

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Anti-Maduro protest in Caracas.





If I had to bet, I would say either Cuba or Mexico. Probably Cuba. The vice president of Maduro’s United Socialist Party, Diosdado Cabello, is inches away from a US indictment for drug trafficking.
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Mexico would turn him over, they have an extradition treaty....my bet is he will run to Ecuador or Cuba.
 
ClaraD said:
Mexico would turn him over, they have an extradition treaty....my bet is he will run to Ecuador or Cuba.
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My bet is that he stays in Venezuela. Remains the elected President and prevents the privatization of the People's Patrimony by USA Corporatism.
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DaveFagan said:
The actions in the US attempting to starve the people of Venezuela are reprehensible. The weaponized economic system of the USA is illegal, but we do it anyway. There will be serious blowback and not just in Venezuela. The US and UK are blatantly stealing Venezuelan monies. They are attempting to bankrupt CITGO. The OIL embargo is causing poverty in Venezuela. The USA just a bunch of nice guys trying to help 'em out in Venezuela just like Syria, Libya, Vietnam, Haiti, Panama, Chile, etc. and the simple minded mental sponges spreading the USA?CIA/NEOCON mythological narrative should be ashamed of themselves both for spreading the nararative and being dumb enough to believe it.
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Have you considered becoming a syndicated columnist for Granma - Organo oficial del PCC or for TeleSur?
 
DaveFagan said:
My bet is that he stays in Venezuela. Remains the elected President and prevents the privatization of the People's Patrimony by USA Corporatism.
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I'll take that bet. My $10k to your $1k, winner gets to donate the proceeds of the wager to a Venezuelan aid program for children. Put your money where mouth is. I have an independent attorney working pro bono for UNESCO who will act as escrow agent.
 
SDET said:
Have you considered becoming a syndicated columnist for Granma - Organo oficial del PCC or for TeleSur?
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I don't have to. Rogue Valley and Fieldmouse say all my best stuff is carried by RT.COM. It's OK by me because I work hard to find truth and spread it. Open minds and open eyes because there are no longer Investigative Journalists in USA MSM.
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OldFatGuy said:
I'll take that bet. My $10k to your $1k, winner gets to donate the proceeds of the wager to a Venezuelan aid program for children. Put your money where mouth is. I have an independent attorney working pro bono for UNESCO who will act as escrow agent.
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I like your offer, but I can't afford it. I'd have to stiff you if I lost and I don't do that. Thanks for the offer.
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DaveFagan said:
United States involvement in regime change - Wikipedia

http://web4.uwindsor.ca/users/w/win...852571f00062afb5/$FILE/Blum_Brief_History.pdf

FROM WOUNDED KNEE TO SYRIA – Zoltan Grossman

THE COST OF AMERICA'S WARS SINCE 1945 - OVER 9 MILLION DEAD Partial list not all wars but a respectable 12 million dead

TRANSCEND MEDIA SERVICE >> U.S. Regime Has Killed 20-30 Million People since World War II

See if you can get your Mom to read these to you. Mostly text, not many pictures. For future reference Post # 45

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You are including the Korean war? Really?

And your "sources" throw in Afghanistan, Angola, Democratic Republic of the Congo, East Timor, Guatemala, Indonesia, Pakistan and Sudan?

One "source" blames us for the Afghans killed by the RUSSIANS... "The U.S. is responsible for between 1 and 1.8 million deaths during the war between the Soviet Union and Afghanistan, by luring the Soviet Union into invading that nation"

WTF?

Another gem....

"So the U.S. bears responsibility not only for the deaths from the bombings but also for those resulting from the activities of the Khmer Rouge – a total of about 2.5 million people. "

So now we are responsible for the excesses of a communist group....

Wow.

And you believe this crap or did you just copy and paste links that looked good for you?

An estimated 900,000 Chinese died during the Korean War. For more information, See: Korea.

Gee. I wonder why that happened.

The Korean War started in 1950 when, according to the Truman administration, North Korea invaded South Korea on June 25th. However, since then another explanation has emerged which maintains that the attack by North Korea came during a time of many border incursions by both sides. South Korea initiated most of the border clashes with North Korea beginning in 1948. The North Korea government claimed that by 1949 the South Korean army committed 2,617 armed incursions. It was a myth that the Soviet Union ordered North Korea to attack South Korea.

Border clashes invite an invasion in which the South Koreans were over run..... RIGHT!
 
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DaveFagan said:
I don't have to. Rogue Valley and Fieldmouse say all my best stuff is carried by RT.COM. It's OK by me because I work hard to find truth and spread it. Open minds and open eyes because there are no longer Investigative Journalists in USA MSM.
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Nah, we didn't say that. We said you get your "information" from RT.COM....

Don't lie.
 
Fledermaus said:
You are including the Korean war? Really?

And your "sources" throw in Afghanistan, Angola, Democratic Republic of the Congo, East Timor, Guatemala, Indonesia, Pakistan and Sudan?

One "source" blames us for the Afghans killed by the RUSSIANS... "The U.S. is responsible for between 1 and 1.8 million deaths during the war between the Soviet Union and Afghanistan, by luring the Soviet Union into invading that nation"

WTF?

Another gem....

"So the U.S. bears responsibility not only for the deaths from the bombings but also for those resulting from the activities of the Khmer Rouge – a total of about 2.5 million people. "

So now we are responsible for the excesses of a communist group....

Wow.

And you believe this crap or did you just copy and paste links that looked good for you?

An estimated 900,000 Chinese died during the Korean War. For more information, See: Korea.

Gee. I wonder why that happened.

The Korean War started in 1950 when, according to the Truman administration, North Korea invaded South Korea on June 25th. However, since then another explanation has emerged which maintains that the attack by North Korea came during a time of many border incursions by both sides. South Korea initiated most of the border clashes with North Korea beginning in 1948. The North Korea government claimed that by 1949 the South Korean army committed 2,617 armed incursions. It was a myth that the Soviet Union ordered North Korea to attack South Korea.

Border clashes invite an invasion in which the South Koreans were over run..... RIGHT!
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Are you suggesting we only caused the deaths of 29,999,999 instead of 30,000,000.

OK. Close enough.

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