Hernandez and US Created Death Squads in Honduras

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The former Commissioner of Internal Affairs of the National Police, María Luisa Borjas, accuses President Juan Hernández of having created, through the new police-military corps, the death squads, which operate and execute murders, crimes that have been increased by the state of siege and curfew.

The former Commissioner of Internal Affairs of the National Police, María Luisa Borjas, accuses President Juan Hernández of having created, through the new police-military corps, the death squads, which operate and execute murders, crimes that have been increased by the state of siege and curfew.


So Trump is arming a government death squad and financing the murder and torture of said corrupt governments operations? Then he has the nerve to ask why they are coming?

ClaraD said:

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The former Commissioner of Internal Affairs of the National Police, María Luisa Borjas, accuses President Juan Hernández of having created, through the new police-military corps, the death squads, which operate and execute murders, crimes that have been increased by the state of siege and curfew.

The former Commissioner of Internal Affairs of the National Police, María Luisa Borjas, accuses President Juan Hernández of having created, through the new police-military corps, the death squads, which operate and execute murders, crimes that have been increased by the state of siege and curfew.


So Trump is arming a government death squad and financing the murder and torture of said corrupt governments operations? Then he has the nerve to ask why they are coming?

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Accuses? Call me when you have hard evidence.

But somehow accuses is evidence that President Trump is arming death squads and financing murder and torture?

jimbo said:

Accuses? Call me when you have hard evidence.

But somehow accuses is evidence that President Trump is arming death squads and financing murder and torture?

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She testified under oath...since she participated...there is strong reason to believe her....you do know that the brother of Juan Orlando has been accused by the US of drug trafficking right? Or he was under Obama...not much of a blip from Trump....

ClaraD said:

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The former Commissioner of Internal Affairs of the National Police, María Luisa Borjas, accuses President Juan Hernández of having created, through the new police-military corps, the death squads, which operate and execute murders, crimes that have been increased by the state of siege and curfew.

The former Commissioner of Internal Affairs of the National Police, María Luisa Borjas, accuses President Juan Hernández of having created, through the new police-military corps, the death squads, which operate and execute murders, crimes that have been increased by the state of siege and curfew.


So Trump is arming a government death squad and financing the murder and torture of said corrupt governments operations? Then he has the nerve to ask why they are coming?

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Yup; Trump is responsible for the caravan(s) from Honduras. /s

Not only is he responsible for Russian meddling in our elections, various hurricanes, the murder of a Saudi citizen, the total melt-down of the left, etc. etc. etc., he now controls the Latin American countries, too.

(grin)

Barnacle said:

Yup; Trump is responsible for the caravan(s) from Honduras. /s

Not only is he responsible for Russian meddling in our elections, various hurricanes, the murder of a Saudi citizen, the total melt-down of the left, etc. etc. etc., he now controls the Latin American countries, too.

(grin)

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If he directly or even indirectly allowed his embassy to fund this type of stuff...you damn right he is responsible..no he isn't responsible for hurricanes...

ClaraD said:

If he directly or even indirectly allowed his embassy to fund this type of stuff...you damn right he is responsible..no he isn't responsible for hurricanes...

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If, it, if ...

Barnacle said:

If, it, if ...

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A participant testified ...that says one hell of a lot about it...if he feigns he didn't know what the ambassador did...he should not be president....sorry, but I don't find any of it something to grin about this b$%^& was a coronel during the time my brother in law was murdered by a death squad.

ClaraD said:

A participant testified ...that says one hell of a lot about it...if he feigns he didn't know what the ambassador did...he should not be president....sorry, but I don't find any of it something to grin about this b$%^& was a coronel during the time my brother in law was murdered by a death squad.

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I'm sorry about your brother in law, but if you want to tie the actions of a government to the monies it received from the US of A, you would have to go back several generations - and several presidents, for that matter.

Yes, I would prefer it if the US of A stopped sending any monies to all those s****hole countries.

ClaraD said:

She testified under oath...since she participated...there is strong reason to believe her....you do know that the brother of Juan Orlando has been accused by the US of drug trafficking right? Or he was under Obama...not much of a blip from Trump....

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I know nothing of Juan, nor for the purposes of this thread do I care.

You're not going to bait me into diverting this thread into something it's not. Juan, Obama, Trump, drugs, are nots.

jimbo said:

I know nothing of Juan, nor for the purposes of this thread do I care.

You're not going to bait me into diverting this thread into something it's not. Juan, Obama, Trump, drugs, are nots.

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Juan Orlando Hernandez is the defacto president of Honduras..installed by the US...so how is talking about his and the embassies involvement diverting anything?

Barnacle said:

Yup; Trump is responsible for the caravan(s) from Honduras. /s

Not only is he responsible for Russian meddling in our elections, various hurricanes, the murder of a Saudi citizen, the total melt-down of the left, etc. etc. etc., he now controls the Latin American countries, too.

(grin)

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And the disappearing ice. I heard he was stealing the ice for use in martinis at Mir A Largo.

ClaraD said:

Juan Orlando Hernandez is the defacto president of Honduras..installed by the US...so how is talking about his and the embassies involvement diverting anything?

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You are way off topic and going round in circles.

Bye bye.

jimbo said:

You are way off topic and going round in circles.

Bye bye.

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The USA has been running death squads in Latin America forever. Do your homework. Google. School of the Americas. John Negroponte. Death Squads. How else ya' gonna keep the peons, pissants, peasants and peckerheads down on the farm.
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ClaraD said:

Juan Orlando Hernandez is the defacto president of Honduras..installed by the US...so how is talking about his and the embassies involvement diverting anything?

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The US "installed" Hernandez? The US is funding death squads? You're 60 years late in making claims like that. This isn't the Cold War any more. The US has no interest in any of this sort of stuff. These days if a Latin American country goes south it's just because they have jerkwads for leaders and morons for citizens, not because the US is involved.

jimbo said:

You are way off topic and going round in circles.

Bye bye.

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Don't let the door hit you in the butt on the way out....see ya...there is nothing off topic in my post...but by all means feel free to report it if you think it is off topic

LowDown said:

The US "installed" Hernandez? The US is funding death squads? You're 60 years late in making claims like that. This isn't the Cold War any more. The US has no interest in any of this sort of stuff. These days if a Latin American country goes south it's just because they have jerkwads for leaders and morons for citizens, not because the US is involved.

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There is plenty of interest in keeping a right wing scumbag in office there...it wouldn't be expedient to have a guy who actually doesn't bow down to the US to be in power...ever heard of School of the Americas? Btw, my ex husband was a soldier in B316...ever heard of them? You might want to learn something...and the civil war wasn't 60 years ago...Iran/Contra was in operation up to the late 80s when my ex was busy dropping people out of helicopters.

DaveFagan said:

The USA has been running death squads in Latin America forever. Do your homework. Google. School of the Americas. John Negroponte. Death Squads. How else ya' gonna keep the peons, pissants, peasants and peckerheads down on the farm.
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Then how is it Trump's fault as the OP claims?

holbritter said:

Then how is it Trump's fault as the OP claims?

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The USA helped get rid of Zelaya and install Hernandez. You know, election interference, coup d'etat, etc. Like in Haiti when we kidnapped Aristide and shipped him off to Africa and installed a new leader. The USA voted. Well maybe one significant vote of the leadership because these things need approval at the highest level, just like Honduras, don't ya' know?
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ClaraD said:

If he directly or even indirectly allowed his embassy to fund this type of stuff...you damn right he is responsible..no he isn't responsible for hurricanes...

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You and your "ifs"
Why not stick to what is known?

Barnacle said:

Yup; Trump is responsible for the caravan(s) from Honduras. /s

Not only is he responsible for Russian meddling in our elections, various hurricanes, the murder of a Saudi citizen, the total melt-down of the left, etc. etc. etc., he now controls the Latin American countries, too.

(grin)

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Just how does he do it? The president is the jack of all trades. :lol:

DaveFagan said:

The USA helped get rid of Zelaya and install Hernandez. You know, election interference, coup d'etat, etc. Like in Haiti when we kidnapped Aristide and shipped him off to Africa and installed a new leader. The USA voted. Well maybe one significant vote of the leadership because these things need approval at the highest level, just like Honduras, don't ya' know?
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Not exactly....Zelaya deserved to be couped...he was corrupt...that said, the US tried to force him back into power under Obama...that didn't work and an election occurred and Pepe Lobo was elected in 2010. Then he left after the one term that is permitted via the Constitution...the written in stone articles demand that no president can serve more the one term...then along came Hernandez and under some sucpicious election hankering became president, then he overthrew the constitution....Trump ignored that and certified his fake election anyway....

LowDown said:

The US "installed" Hernandez? The US is funding death squads? You're 60 years late in making claims like that. This isn't the Cold War any more. The US has no interest in any of this sort of stuff. These days if a Latin American country goes south it's just because they have jerkwads for leaders and morons for citizens, not because the US is involved.

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Someone needs to pop your bubble, dude. We still pull all the strings in Latin America. It's about business. Big Corporate. NO Change.
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A former Honduras National Police agent has revealed gruesome details on numerous cases.

According to Radio Globo Director, David Romero, documents containing a testimony of a former agent of the national police force, shine a light on how death squads operate in Honduras.

The agent, who worked with the police’s Analysis Unit for several years, says in a sworn statement that he was present at a number of executions that implicate top level commanders of the national security forces.

He gave details of six cases of persecution, kidnapping and death. One of the victims was a 65-year-old person from Copán, in western Honduras.

Officials involved in the case were former police chief Juan Carlos “Tigre” Bonilla, Zavala Vásquez and Turcios Andrade.

Another case involved the kidnapping of a woman in the company of a young boy in Barrio Cabañas, San Pedro Sula, in the north of Honduras. She was intercepted by three vehicles under the command of former police chief Héctor Iván Mejía. Those directly involved included the head of the Special Anti-Kidnapping Group (GEAS) Turcios Andrade, Zavala, and 16 other members. The woman was taken to a security house in the exclusive Trejo neighborhood, interrogated for 48 hours, hanged and disappeared.

To date, family members continue to demand that those responsible for security and justice reveal the whereabouts of the woman`s lifeless body. Her name has never been revealed.

In another case, a group of policemen kidnapped a young girl in the Choloma area to pressure her mother to tell them where to find a person known as “Amílcar El Renco”.

The girl was transferred to the same security house. There she was raped by several members of the Analysis Unit. The mother called to tell them where to find “El Renco,” who was tortured and killed several days later.

The former police agent revealed that those who gave the order were commissioners Heberto Arias Aguilar, López Flores and Turcios Andrade and stated that they were supported by the National Office of Criminal Investigation (DNIC) and the Analysis Unit.

In yet another case, three members of the “Agua de Mayo” gang were killed after being taken to a security house in San Pedro Sula, where they were tortured and killed. They were then decapitated and their bodies appeared in different parts of the city. A different head was placed on each body to make it more difficult to identify the person killed. The ex agent revealed that the commanders involved in this incident were Arias Aguilar, Mejía, López Flores, Turcios Andrade and Zavala with the support of GEAS and DNIC.

https://www.telesurtv.net/english/n...duran-Death-Squads-Operate-20140919-0006.html

DaveFagan said:

Someone needs to pop your bubble, dude. We still pull all the strings in Latin America. It's about business. Big Corporate. NO Change.
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What is hilarious is Trump saying he isn't going to allow them in. So what does he plan on doing? They present at the border entry and say they are in fear of return...then they are brought in. He said the same thing last time...and they are here.
He should instead focus his time on not supporting death squads and working on providing security and economic opportunity for these people in Honduras. I supported Pepe Lobo, I don't support Juan Orlando....people are dying and disappearing, turning up cut up in pieces in trash bags...yes, it is really that bad. In fact, I have pictures of AITC(the national police investigation team) killing someone at a gas station in broad daylight. They know the US isn't going to get involved...because the US is financing it.

ClaraD said:

There is plenty of interest in keeping a right wing scumbag in office there...it wouldn't be expedient to have a guy who actually doesn't bow down to the US to be in power...ever heard of School of the Americas? Btw, my ex husband was a soldier in B316...ever heard of them? You might want to learn something...and the civil war wasn't 60 years ago...Iran/Contra was in operation up to the late 80s when my ex was busy dropping people out of helicopters.

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The Cold War ended in 1990. You might want to factor that in.