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Fidel Castro, Longtime Dictator of Cuba, Has Died

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Oh chit...Odungo has to lead a 186 person delegation to Cuba for the funeral... another chance to speak out about the evils of the USA and the American people
 
If there had never been a US embargo Cuba wouldn't have had to turn to the Soviet Union to sell sugar and history would have been different.

U people blame America every GD chance u get... SICK PLZ MOVE
 
Agreed. I'd add Pol Pot and Castro's fellow Stalinist Saddam Hussein to that list of bastards. A sad day for commie America-haters everywhere, but a good one for the rest of us.

Saddam Hussein was a Stalinist?
Damn, boy, I gotta pay more attention, follow your posts.
 
I've been to Cuba. I've driven down a long back road through farm country and seen a farmhouse beside the road with a big red cross painted on the wall. A doctor lived there and anyone from around could just walk in to his clinic. I've talked to labourers with university degrees and school kids come from all over to a week-long basketball tournament. I've spent days in private houses with suites for tourists, 'casas particulaire', and eaten meals in private homes with tables for twelve paying guests, 'paladares'. I've been down streets and alleys all over Havana and never saw a beggar or hooker or drug dealer or shabby homeless person. here's hitch-hikers everywhere and it's against the law for someone with a government plate to pass them by.
Obviously it's not the ideal society, but obviously the average Cuban is far better off than the average Jamaican or Dominican. And a long way better off than before the revolution. If there had never been a US embargo Cuba wouldn't have had to turn to the Soviet Union to sell sugar and history would have been different.

How long were you there?
 
I've been down streets and alleys all over Havana and never saw a beggar or hooker



Havana’s conspicuous scenes of street-level prostitution are the outward face of a hidden prostitution trade in minors, some as young as four, some with families complicit in their exploitation, the newspapers found.

Cuba holds unique allure for Western sex tourists. It is closer and cheaper than other sex destinations, such as Thailand.

Pimps, cabbies and tourist hotel staffers can procure discreet meetings with underage prostitutes, according to the RCMP report.

Today, prostitution may well be the most profitable job in an island where the average monthly salary officially stands at less than $20 and a bottle of cooking oil costs $3.

Read more here: How Cuba became the newest hotbed for tourists craving sex with minors | Miami Herald

U must be fricking blind!!!
 
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Please enlighten us with the many good things you belive Hitler did.

Besides serving as a good object lesson on how NOT to conduct a war, he gave us, among other things:

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Havana’s conspicuous scenes of street-level prostitution are the outward face of a hidden prostitution trade in minors, some as young as four, some with families complicit in their exploitation, the newspapers found.

Cuba holds unique allure for Western sex tourists. It is closer and cheaper than other sex destinations, such as Thailand.

Pimps, cabbies and tourist hotel staffers can procure discreet meetings with underage prostitutes, according to the RCMP report.

Today, prostitution may well be the most profitable job in an island where the average monthly salary officially stands at less than $20 and a bottle of cooking oil costs $3.

Read more here: How Cuba became the newest hotbed for tourists craving sex with minors | Miami Herald

U must be fricking blind!!!


You can do that in any poor country - including Mexico
 
Come on now guys, say farewell but give the devil his due.

At least recognize that he successfully overthrew a corrupt dictatorship, repelled an American financed invasion, maintained his independent control over Cuba by some very effective international policy alignments, and outlasted the U.S. Trade Embargo before peacefully turning over the reigns to his chosen successor.
The only other modern Western dictator to do something similar was Francisco Franco of Spain.

Okay...now he can rot in hell. ;)



Spain today is nothing like it was under Franco.

BTW: Franco was a Far-Right dictator.
 
Finally!

I thought the f*cker would never die!

Best thing to happen to Cuba in decades.
 
It is my pleasure to share the news that Fidel Castro has at last given up the ghost. May the thousands he murdered, and the many more who he imprisoned and tortured, haunt him.

Cuba's Fidel Castro, former president, dies aged 90 - BBC News

Best news all week.

Come on now guys, say farewell but give the devil his due.

At least recognize that he successfully overthrew a corrupt dictatorship, repelled an American financed invasion, maintained his independent control over Cuba by some very effective international policy alignments, and outlasted the U.S. Trade Embargo before peacefully turning over the reigns to his chosen successor. The only other modern Western dictator to do something similar was Francisco Franco of Spain.

Okay...now he can rot in hell. ;)

Does being a puppet of the Soviet imperialists make you a hero against those damn Yankee imperialists?

Always admired that guy. Two autographs I'd love to have, Fidel Castro and Muhammed Ali.

Pretty pathetic, but okay.

Anxious to see what Trump has to say and does about this..

I would like to see us take cuba under our wing if we can..

All in good time.

With the embargo falling and Cubans hungry for modernity, it will come.

People tend to be attracted to prosperity, capitalism, and freedom. Can't imagine why. ;)

well the mafia wanted it to be their base of operations until Castro ended that. Maybe the clinton Crime family can use it for their new base. Little Rock is too close to Trump's DOJ

Wasn't Fidel connected to the drug trade?
 
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I've been to Cuba. I've driven down a long back road through farm country and seen a farmhouse beside the road with a big red cross painted on the wall. A doctor lived there and anyone from around could just walk in to his clinic. I've talked to labourers with university degrees and school kids come from all over to a week-long basketball tournament. I've spent days in private houses with suites for tourists, 'casas particulaire', and eaten meals in private homes with tables for twelve paying guests, 'paladares'. I've been down streets and alleys all over Havana and never saw a beggar or hooker or drug dealer or shabby homeless person. here's hitch-hikers everywhere and it's against the law for someone with a government plate to pass them by.
Obviously it's not the ideal society, but obviously the average Cuban is far better off than the average Jamaican or Dominican. And a long way better off than before the revolution. If there had never been a US embargo Cuba wouldn't have had to turn to the Soviet Union to sell sugar and history would have been different.

The thing is that the Cubans opted for the embargo. Whether they could have done better than the Jamaicans is anyone's guess. Some third world countries did fine, when they stopped the hostilities or had never had such, while others have not. But Castro didn't give them that chance.
 
He did many good things and many not so good things.

1st world levels of literacy and a longer life expectancy than Americans thanks to the education and health systems. Not so great on the economic front, not helped by a tough US embargo.

This.

While many nations turned a blind eye to the Apartheid regime and its invasion of Angola, Castro put troops in and defeated them in Angola, eventually leading to the freedom of Namibia and Angola. Obviously American citizens and Cuban escapees have very different opinions shaped by years of hostility but the situation in Africa was dire for decades without help from sources such as Castro and Cuba.

So tonight, I raise a glass of whisky to someone who actually made a difference for the positive in Africa.
 
Saddam Hussein was a Stalinist?
Damn, boy, I gotta pay more attention, follow your posts.

I'd thought that was common knowledge. When Hussein's personal quarters were overrun after the 2003 invasion, all sorts of books about Stalin and writings by him, translated into Arabic, were found among his effects. Apparently Hussein was a great admirer of Stalin, and that was his favorite reading material. "Che" Guevara, one of Fidel Castro's most important henchmen, was a vicious murderer of the same stripe as Stalin and Hussein. May they all roast in the hottest corner of hell.
 
People tend to be attracted to prosperity, capitalism, and freedom. Can't imagine why.

The poorest person in Cuba is better off than the poorest person in America.
 
While many nations turned a blind eye to the Apartheid regime and its invasion of Angola, Castro put troops in and defeated them in Angola, eventually leading to the freedom of Namibia and Angola.

Castro certainly helped the Marxist José Eduardo dos Santos, who's been president of Angola since 1979. He also helped dos Santos' daughter become a billionaire:

Last December Isabel dos Santos commemorated her tenth wedding anniversary to Congolese businessman Sindika Dokolo with a party. Subtlety wasn’t on the menu. She jetted in dozens of friends and relatives from as far as Germany and Brazil, who joined with hundreds of local guests in Angola for three days of lavishness, including a bash at the Fortress of Sao Miguel in the capital city of Luanda and a beachside Sunday brunch on the posh Mussulo peninsula. The invitation, according to one attendee, came in a sleek white box, promising a celebration of “a decade of passion/a decade of friendship/a decade worth a hundred years. …”

A decade worth $3 billion is more like it. At 40 Dos Santos is Africa’s youngest female billionaire. She has quickly and systematically garnered significant stakes in Angola’s strategic industries–banking, cement, diamonds and telecom–making her the most influential businessperson in her homeland. More than half of her assets are held in publicly traded Portuguese companies, adding international credibility. When FORBES outed her as a billionaire in January the government disseminated the news as a matter of national pride, living proof that this country of 19 million has arrived.

Forbes Welcome

Power to the people! :rock
 
Anxious to see what Trump has to say and does about this..

I would like to see us take cuba under our wing if we can..

Cuba remains a Communist dictatorship. Oppression has worsend under Raul Castro according to human rights watch. So why should the US "take cuba under its wing"?
 
My spirits are with the Cubans in Florida lighting fireworks, cheering, and/or drinking, and the ones who are asleep not knowing what has happened.

I have a bottle of real Cuban rum with which to celebrate, bought for a high price in the Swedish State liquor store.
 
I have a bottle of real Cuban rum with which to celebrate, bought for a high price in the Swedish State liquor store.

Wow. Real cuban rum? The same real cuban rum easily available in any non-US supermarket?
 
Cuba remains a Communist dictatorship. Oppression has worsend under Raul Castro according to human rights watch. So why should the US "take cuba under its wing"?

Because it's our closest non-bordering neighbor, and it could help the Cuban people?
 
The poorest person in Cuba is better off than the poorest person in America.

You ever been to a Communist Country? They're all poor... except for the Ruling Class.

These are/were the most equal societies out there... as everyone lived in misery. They're an absolute disgrace to humanity.
 
Because it's our closest non-bordering neighbor, and it could help the Cuban people?


But can the people in a dictatorship be helped unless they create some sort of democracy for themselves? And is an accident of geography all that important?
 
But can the people in a dictatorship be helped unless they create some sort of democracy for themselves? And is an accident of geography all that important?

Yes they can be helped, just as the French helped us. Right now, our best shot at helping them is to trade with them, especially tourism. Let them see better how we live, that they may make up their own minds the destiny they want to follow.
 
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