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UN list targets firms linked to Israeli settlements

Fledermaus said:
Is it or is it not a strawman question?

Have I stated, inferred or implied any nations voted against the against the continuance of the state of Israel , the Jewish state?

No.

Have the member nations ever voted for non-continuance of ANY state to include Israel , the Jewish state?

Can the member nations even vote for the non-continuance of ANY state to include Israel , the Jewish state?

What has been shown are sanction after sanction after sanction targeting Israel....

Mr. Scarecrow wants his straw back.
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Your claims are in tatters so you play the argue to infinity card. You will not be allowed to do what you always do, refuse to answer questions put to you but demand your own be answered and repeated and repeated until debate ends.

Where did I ignore the changing face of the UN ? I actually cited the difference in votes on/attitudes towards Israel from that time to this and you bizarrely accused me " ignoring " it? Is this how you intend to conduct yourself in any debate ?

Show where the UN " ignore evil world wide" clearly a reference to the crimes /policies of other nations ? Proof ?

Explain how the UN is more anti Israel now than it was when it voted for partition ? Recall the numbers I cited.

Explain why you only see terrorist when they are Arabs ?

Explain what " sanctions " Israel is suffering from ?

You can take numerous posts to address specific points, there's no rush.
 
oneworld2 said:
Your claims are in tatters so you play the argue to infinity card. You will not be allowed to do what you always do, refuse to answer questions put to you but demand your own be answered and repeated and repeated until debate ends.

Where did I ignore the changing face of the UN ? I actually cited the difference in votes on/attitudes towards Israel from that time to this and you bizarrely accused me " ignoring " it? Is this how you intend to conduct yourself in any debate ?

Show where the UN " ignore evil world wide" clearly a reference to the crimes /policies of other nations ? Proof ?

Explain how the UN is more anti Israel now than it was when it voted for partition ? Recall the numbers I cited.

Explain why you only see terrorist when they are Arabs ?

Explain what " sanctions " Israel is suffering from ?

You can take numerous posts to address specific points, there's no rush.
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Your strawman failed. Live with it. I am not obligated to answer a question that would launch a thousand Scarecrows.

How has the UN become more Anti-Israel?

Asked and answered.

Time and again.

Both the cause and effect.

And the definition of terrorism is something you cannot seem to grasp.
 
Fledermaus said:
Is it or is it not a strawman question?

Have I stated, inferred or implied any nations voted against the against the continuance of the state of Israel , the Jewish state?

No.

Have the member nations ever voted for non-continuance of ANY state to include Israel , the Jewish state?

Can the member nations even vote for the non-continuance of ANY state to include Israel , the Jewish state?

What has been shown are sanction after sanction after sanction targeting Israel....

Mr. Scarecrow wants his straw back.
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Correction... Resolution after resolution....

You may continue your strawman questions....
 
Fledermaus said:
Your strawman failed. Live with it. I am not obligated to answer a question that would launch a thousand Scarecrows.

How has the UN become more Anti-Israel?

Asked and answered.

Time and again.

Both the cause and effect.

And the definition of terrorism is something you cannot seem to grasp.
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No worries , you don't want the debate, that's fine by me.
 
Fledermaus said:
Correction... Resolution after resolution....
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So now you know there are no sanctions on Israel, you move to " resolutions ".

Interested parties, the claim that Israel has been sanctioned by the UN is a false claim.
You may continue your strawman questions....
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I will continue with what I think your knowledge free and bizarre commentary deserves.

:roll:
 
oneworld2 said:
So now you know there are no sanctions on Israel, you move to " resolutions ".

Interested parties, the claim that Israel has been sanctioned by the UN is a false claim.

I will continue with what I think your knowledge free and bizarre commentary deserves.

:roll:
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Resolutions were listed above and I incorrectly mentioned sanctions. I also corrected myself.

Now.... How many resolutions directed at Israel vs. other nations?
 
Fledermaus said:
Resolutions were listed above and I incorrectly mentioned sanctions. I also corrected myself.

Now.... How many resolutions directed at Israel vs. other nations?
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" Now " nothing, you still have a rafy of other questions outstanding that you have tried to avoid.........

how did the UN " ignore evil world wide" clearly a reference to the crimes /policies of other nations ? Proof ?

Explain how the UN is more anti Israel now than it was when it voted for partition ? Recall the numbers I cited.

Explain why you only see terrorist when they are Arabs ?

answer them and I'll answer your latest one
 
oneworld2 said:
" Now " nothing, you still have a rafy of other questions outstanding that you have tried to avoid.........

how did the UN " ignore evil world wide" clearly a reference to the crimes /policies of other nations ? Proof ?

Explain how the UN is more anti Israel now than it was when it voted for partition ? Recall the numbers I cited.

Explain why you only see terrorist when they are Arabs ?

answer them and I'll answer your latest one
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Asked and answered...

Asked and answered....

And your claim I "only see terrorist when they are Arabs" is another pathetic lie.

If you spent more time reading for comprehension you might figure things out on your own.

Hint: Post #122 might clue you in.
 
Fledermaus said:
Asked and answered...

Asked and answered....

And your claim I "only see terrorist when they are Arabs" is another pathetic lie.

If you spent more time reading for comprehension you might figure things out on your own.

Hint: Post #122 might clue you in.
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Post 122 isn't even your post and says nothing about how the UN chose to " ignore evil world wide" . Your claim , you need to back it or retract it imo

second question remains unanswered or cite YOUR post that answers it, here it is again

Explain how the UN is more anti Israel now than it was when it voted for partition ? Recall the numbers I cited.

question 3

Explain why you only see terrorist when they are Arabs ?

Show a post of yours that has ever recognized violent Israeli state actions as terrorism or even as crimes.
 
oneworld2 said:
Post 122 isn't even your post and says nothing about how the UN chose to " ignore evil world wide" . Your claim , you need to back it or retract it imo

second question remains unanswered or cite YOUR post that answers it, here it is again

Explain how the UN is more anti Israel now than it was when it voted for partition ? Recall the numbers I cited.

question 3

Explain why you only see terrorist when they are Arabs ?

Show a post of yours that has ever recognized violent Israeli state actions as terrorism or even as crimes.
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None are so blind as those who refuse to see.

Your internal bias prevents you from seeing what others see when they look at Post #122.

As to your question 3. It is a question based on a lie so I am under no obligation to answer.
 
Fledermaus said:
None are so blind as those who refuse to see.

Your internal bias prevents you from seeing what others see when they look at Post #122.

As to your question 3. It is a question based on a lie so I am under no obligation to answer.
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Ted Bundy would have more convictions than a one time murderer, same with UN resolutions, the longer you violate the more they rack up , who knew ?

So where did you address the claim you made that the UN ignores evil world wide in your own words ,post number ?

likewise

Explain how the UN is more anti Israel now than it was when it voted for partition ? Recall the numbers I cited. What post of yours addresses that point ?

It's not a lie to claim you have a massive double standard wrt Palestinians/ Arabs. If it were not true you would have no problem showing a post , one solitary post , of yours that has ever recognized violent Israeli state actions as terrorism or even as crimes.

You can't do it because they don't exist and the " I am under no obligation to answer. " is just hollow avoidance and obviously so.
 
oneworld2 said:
Ted Bundy would have more convictions than a one time murderer, same with UN resolutions, the longer you violate the more they rack up , who knew ?

So where did you address the claim you made that the UN ignores evil world wide in your own words ,post number ?

likewise

Explain how the UN is more anti Israel now than it was when it voted for partition ? Recall the numbers I cited. What post of yours addresses that point ?

It's not a lie to claim you have a massive double standard wrt Palestinians/ Arabs. If it were not true you would have no problem showing a post , one solitary post , of yours that has ever recognized violent Israeli state actions as terrorism or even as crimes.

You can't do it because they don't exist and the " I am under no obligation to answer. " is just hollow avoidance and obviously so.
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Tsk, Tsk...

Intentional ignorance is such an ugly thing.

Take another look at Post #122 and perhaps think about the disparity in resolutions.
 
Fledermaus said:
Tsk, Tsk...

Intentional ignorance is such an ugly thing.

.
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I agree but you are making claim after claim based on it and then refusing to even discuss them. :shrug: Can't debate with anyone doing that to such a level imo
 
JacksinPA said:
UN list targets firms linked to Israeli settlements

JERUSALEM (AP) — The U.N. human rights office on Wednesday released a list of more than 100 companies it said are complicit in violating Palestinian human rights by operating in Israeli settlements in the occupied West Bank — a first-ever international attempt to name and shame businesses that has drawn fierce Israeli condemnation.

The list’s publication after repeated delays escalated a looming showdown between Israel and the international community over its more than half-century policy of building settlements in the West Bank. Emboldened by a new U.S. Mideast initiative, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has vowed to annex Israel’s more than 100 settlements, while the chief prosecutor of the International Criminal Court in The Hague has indicated she will soon launch a war-crimes investigation into settlement policies.
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The whip was in the other hand during the Holocaust but now it rests easily in Israeli hands. Despite their promises to the Palestinians when Israel was founded by the UN in the late 1940s, the Israelis are now the abusers & thieves, stealing from the Palestinians as if it is their right to do so.
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As if we don't know the UN has a definite anti-semitic leaning with many of the members.
 
oneworld2 said:
I agree but you are making claim after claim based on it and then refusing to even discuss them. :shrug: Can't debate with anyone doing that to such a level imo
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You left off a part.....

Take another look at Post #122 and perhaps think about the disparity in resolutions.
 
Fledermaus said:
You left off a part.....

Take another look at Post #122 and perhaps think about the disparity in resolutions.
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I addressed the ridiculous new claim that I am engaging in willful ignorance for your lack of answering the questions put to you.

To repeat post 122 isn't even your post and is just a list of UN resolutions by country for the year 2018( ?)

Your claim is that the UN "ignores evil world wide" to focus on Israel .

That the UN is more antisemitic now when nobody is denying the right of the state of Israel to exist to a period where nearly a quarter of the UN voted against its creation !! It's just an utter junk claim on that alone.

Additionally, show a post of yours that has ever recognized violent Israeli state actions as terrorism or even as crimes. Remember this ? How hard can it be ? You have over 2500 posts here and you cannot cite a single one ? Seriously !!
 
oneworld2 said:
I addressed the ridiculous new claim that I am engaging in willful ignorance for your lack of answering the questions put to you.

To repeat post 122 isn't even your post and is just a list of UN resolutions by country for the year 2018( ?)

Your claim is that the UN "ignores evil world wide" to focus on Israel .

That the UN is more antisemitic now when nobody is denying the right of the state of Israel to exist to a period where nearly a quarter of the UN voted against its creation !! It's just an utter junk claim on that alone.

Additionally, show a post of yours that has ever recognized violent Israeli state actions as terrorism or even as crimes. Remember this ? How hard can it be ? You have over 2500 posts here and you cannot cite a single one ? Seriously !!
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Reread Post #122 and it may come to you. Or it might not.
 
Fledermaus said:
Reread Post #122 and it may come to you. Or it might not.
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Post 122 has already been dealt with.

Additionally, show a post of yours that has ever recognized violent Israeli state actions as terrorism or even as crimes. Remember this ? How hard can it be ? You have over 2500 posts here and you cannot cite a single one ? Seriously !!

The above challenge hasn't. Now why would that be ?
 
oneworld2 said:
Post 122 has already been dealt with.

Additionally, show a post of yours that has ever recognized violent Israeli state actions as terrorism or even as crimes. Remember this ? How hard can it be ? You have over 2500 posts here and you cannot cite a single one ? Seriously !!

The above challenge hasn't. Now why would that be ?
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Blah blah blah state terrorism blah blah blah....

You can't see terrorism when it is clearly there, even when it is admitted by the perpetrators. But you feel the need to regurgitate the "state terrorism" canard...
 
Fledermaus said:
Blah blah blah state terrorism blah blah blah....

You can't see terrorism when it is clearly there, even when it is admitted by the perpetrators. But you feel the need to regurgitate the "state terrorism" canard...
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So you cannot point to a single, solitary , post of yours where the crimes of the state of Israel are acknowledged in over 2500 post here.

Wow, what a damning indictement of just how hopelessly biased your views are.
 
oneworld2 said:
Ted Bundy would have more convictions than a one time murderer, same with UN resolutions, the longer you violate the more they rack up , who knew ?

So where did you address the claim you made that the UN ignores evil world wide in your own words ,post number ?

likewise

Explain how the UN is more anti Israel now than it was when it voted for partition ? Recall the numbers I cited. What post of yours addresses that point ?

It's not a lie to claim you have a massive double standard wrt Palestinians/ Arabs. If it were not true you would have no problem showing a post , one solitary post , of yours that has ever recognized violent Israeli state actions as terrorism or even as crimes.

You can't do it because they don't exist and the " I am under no obligation to answer. " is just hollow avoidance and obviously so.
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fascinating. Are you suggesting a case study looking at Cyprus as a comparison? You must be, since you seem to be advancing the theory that it is the length of time of violations that creates an increased focus on the activity, and the Turks invaded and illegally occupied Cyprus in 1974. So therefore, you mjust be proposing that the degree of condemnation of Turkey must be at least proximate to the degree of opprobrium lavished on the Jewish state by the impartial and noble United Nations.

Would be an easy enough exercise to even normalize for the difference in dates of the occupations, say by comparing the currently yearly condemnations of Turkey to the condemnations of Israel 7 years ago. Or maybe use a different conflict or a much larger, more sustained human rights violation. Maybe China? Surely there must be some roughly equivalent situation which would show that your idea that condemnation is correlated to duration has merit as applied to this case rather than various other theories that may have more support from the data?

That would certainly lend credence to your theory, which otherwise would be pretty much just an empty, meaningless, made up diversion to avoid having to, you know, recognize reality.

But I look forward to the data on that.
 
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oneworld2 said:
I addressed the ridiculous new claim that I am engaging in willful ignorance for your lack of answering the questions put to you.

To repeat post 122 isn't even your post and is just a list of UN resolutions by country for the year 2018( ?)

Your claim is that the UN "ignores evil world wide" to focus on Israel .

That the UN is more antisemitic now when nobody is denying the right of the state of Israel to exist to a period where nearly a quarter of the UN voted against its creation !! It's just an utter junk claim on that alone.

Additionally, show a post of yours that has ever recognized violent Israeli state actions as terrorism or even as crimes. Remember this ? How hard can it be ? You have over 2500 posts here and you cannot cite a single one ? Seriously !!
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This argument is the equivalent of saying white supremacists are not antisemetic if they are not burning down Jewish schools.

just saying.
 
oneworld2 said:
So you cannot point to a single, solitary , post of yours where the crimes of the state of Israel are acknowledged in over 2500 post here.

Wow, what a damning indictement of just how hopelessly biased your views are.
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On the other side we have you trying to call obvious terrorist attacks "war crimes" due the bizarre belief you have that you can draw parallels to the IDF.
 
Fledermaus said:
On the other side we have you trying to call obvious terrorist attacks "war crimes" due the bizarre belief you have that you can draw parallels to the IDF.
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If you want to bury your head in the sand about state terrorism that's your call or compulsion but to not even think that the IDF have never committed any act or prosecuted any action of violence against the Palestinians in the half century they have been violating their rights on a daily basis that has constituted a crime beggars belief and shows a wholly obvious deep seated bias against Arabs, there is no other way that can be explained.

It's also not my fault that you fail to understand why and how things are labelled within the context in which they occur. All of the HRs group ALSO class certain actions as war crimes committed by both sides . In short it's not something that's perculiar to me.
 
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