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U.S Citizen Faces Death Penalty for Selling Jerusalem Land to Jews

Actually Islam has quite a few fabrications,
One is a written gemology from Ishmael to Muhammed.
Too many factors in this prove it is total fabrications. I could elaborate but I doubt it would do any good.

And BTW, Most of the bible was written from 400 BCE. to 200 AD, with some writings claimed to be from further back.

Islam and Muslims were not invented until the 7th to the 9th century AD.
Depending on how you calculate it.

Yeah. I know it's probably a total fabrication. I grew up in a Fundie family and it's all I ever hear at many Fundie churches I went to among many other BS.
 
Existential threats can be incremental, like the glacier melting in the Hindu Kush which will deprive India of more and more fresh water. If the citizens of the State of Israel gobble up more and more land belonging to Palestinians then that land loss in conjunction with the illegal seizures and settlement of other Palestinian's lands constitutes an incremental but existential threat to the Palestinian Nation.

Cheers.
Evilroddy.

No it doesn’t.


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BDS isn't calling for Israel to cease existing.

That’s not what its founder or leadership say.

But hey, lies about their actual objectives is sort of what anti-Israelis do.


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I am sure some of them are for the destruction of the State of Israel. But that isn't what BDS is about.

Actually it is exactly what BDS is about. But thanks for playing.


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That’s not what its founder or leadership say.

But hey, lies about their actual objectives is sort of what anti-Israelis do.


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Well you'll have to provide me with a unbiased citation.
 
IMO...Yes

Agreed. The stories of Genesis were told around desert nomad campfires for a few thousand years before Moses wrote them down. As anyone who played the game "Gossip" AKA "Telephone" knows, stories evolve with each retelling.
 
Agreed. The stories of Genesis were told around desert nomad campfires for a few thousand years before Moses wrote them down. As anyone who played the game "Gossip" AKA "Telephone" knows, stories evolve with each retelling.

We can look to Sumerian roots for many of these stories, Noah inc.

The Hebrews packaged and sold it as they wrote it.
 
Well you'll have to provide me with a unbiased citation.

Sigh.

This again.


BDS: In Their Own Words | Christians United for Israel

Israel] was Palestine, and there is no reason why it should not be renamed Palestine.”

–Omar Barghouti, Founder, Palestinian Campaign for the Academic and Cultural Boycott of Israel

“[Palestinians have a right to] resistance by any means, including armed resistance. [Jews] aren’t indigenous just because you say you are….[Jews] are not a people…the UN’s principle of the right to self-determination applies only to colonized people who want to acquire their rights. ”

–Omar Barghouti

“Going back to the two-state solution, besides having passed its expiry date, it was never a moral solution to start with.We are witnessing the rapid demise of Zionism, and nothing can be done to save it, for Zionism is intent on killing itself.”

-Omar Bargouti

“Good riddance! The two-state solution for the Palestinian-Israeli conflict is finally dead. But someone has to issue an official death certificate before the rotting corpse is given a proper burial and we can all move on and explore the more just, moral and therefore enduring alternative for peaceful coexistence between Jews and Arabs in Mandate Palestine: the one-state solution.”

-Omar Bargouti

“(The one state solution means) a unitary state, where, by definition, Jews will be a minority.”

-Omar Bargouti

“I am completely and categorically against binationalism because it assumes that there are two nations with equal moral claims to the land.”

-Omar Bargouti

“If the refugees were to return, you would not have a two-state solution, you’d have a Palestine next to a Palestine.”

–Omar Barghouti quoting Sari Nusseibeh, President of Al Quds University.

“The ‘two state solution,’…as dictated by Israel, omits basic Palestinian rights…[and] would be yet another act of British complicity in bestowing legitimacy on Israel’s unjust order.”

–Omar Barghouti

“A Jewish state in Palestine in any shape or form cannot but contravene the basic rights of the indigenous Palestinian population and perpetuate a system of racial discrimination that ought to be opposed categorically….Definitely, most definitely we oppose a Jewish state in any part of Palestine. No Palestinian, rational Palestinian, not a sell-out Palestinian, will ever accept a Jewish state in Palestine.”

–Omar Barghouti

“You cannot reconcile the right of return for refugees with a two state solution….a return for refugees would end Israel’s existence as a Jewish state. A two-state solution was never moral and it’s no longer working.”

-Omar Barghouti

“[Jews] did not suffer in Arab countries. There were no pogroms. There was no persecution.”

–Omar Barghouti

“The BDS movement was launched because of the ongoing failure to protect the rights of the Palestinian people. Some of these rights were frittered away: The Right of Return is in danger, the right of our people to the 1948 lands is in danger, and even the right of our people to the 1967 lands. Some of these rights are ignored. The BDS movement was created in 2005, in order to focus on the elimination of the occupation, on the elimination of the system of racial segregation – the Israeli apartheid – and on the right of the refugees to return to the homes from which they were expelled.”

– Omar Barghouthi

“I clearly do not buy into the two-state solution.”

–Omar Barghouti


Omar Barghouti is the founder of BDS.

Here are some more

BDS: In Their Own Words
 
Sigh.

This again.


BDS: In Their Own Words | Christians United for Israel

Israel] was Palestine, and there is no reason why it should not be renamed Palestine.”

–Omar Barghouti, Founder, Palestinian Campaign for the Academic and Cultural Boycott of Israel

“[Palestinians have a right to] resistance by any means, including armed resistance. [Jews] aren’t indigenous just because you say you are….[Jews] are not a people…the UN’s principle of the right to self-determination applies only to colonized people who want to acquire their rights. ”

–Omar Barghouti

“Going back to the two-state solution, besides having passed its expiry date, it was never a moral solution to start with.We are witnessing the rapid demise of Zionism, and nothing can be done to save it, for Zionism is intent on killing itself.”

-Omar Bargouti

“Good riddance! The two-state solution for the Palestinian-Israeli conflict is finally dead. But someone has to issue an official death certificate before the rotting corpse is given a proper burial and we can all move on and explore the more just, moral and therefore enduring alternative for peaceful coexistence between Jews and Arabs in Mandate Palestine: the one-state solution.”

-Omar Bargouti

“(The one state solution means) a unitary state, where, by definition, Jews will be a minority.”

-Omar Bargouti

“I am completely and categorically against binationalism because it assumes that there are two nations with equal moral claims to the land.”

-Omar Bargouti

“If the refugees were to return, you would not have a two-state solution, you’d have a Palestine next to a Palestine.”

–Omar Barghouti quoting Sari Nusseibeh, President of Al Quds University.

“The ‘two state solution,’…as dictated by Israel, omits basic Palestinian rights…[and] would be yet another act of British complicity in bestowing legitimacy on Israel’s unjust order.”

–Omar Barghouti

“A Jewish state in Palestine in any shape or form cannot but contravene the basic rights of the indigenous Palestinian population and perpetuate a system of racial discrimination that ought to be opposed categorically….Definitely, most definitely we oppose a Jewish state in any part of Palestine. No Palestinian, rational Palestinian, not a sell-out Palestinian, will ever accept a Jewish state in Palestine.”

–Omar Barghouti

“You cannot reconcile the right of return for refugees with a two state solution….a return for refugees would end Israel’s existence as a Jewish state. A two-state solution was never moral and it’s no longer working.”

-Omar Barghouti

“[Jews] did not suffer in Arab countries. There were no pogroms. There was no persecution.”

–Omar Barghouti

“The BDS movement was launched because of the ongoing failure to protect the rights of the Palestinian people. Some of these rights were frittered away: The Right of Return is in danger, the right of our people to the 1948 lands is in danger, and even the right of our people to the 1967 lands. Some of these rights are ignored. The BDS movement was created in 2005, in order to focus on the elimination of the occupation, on the elimination of the system of racial segregation – the Israeli apartheid – and on the right of the refugees to return to the homes from which they were expelled.”

– Omar Barghouthi

“I clearly do not buy into the two-state solution.”

–Omar Barghouti


Omar Barghouti is the founder of BDS.

Here are some more

BDS: In Their Own Words

Yes. I never denied that some people would support the destruction of Israel.
 
It is simply what it is based on. Like American law is based on English in part.

Do Palestinians want to follow Jordanian law or do they have their own or do they have to abide by Israeli law?
Forgive my ignorance
 
I willfully admit I am demonizing the religion, It is fully documented.
You cannot change what was written 1200 years ago.

I can prove anything I say about Islam, from Islamic text.

Yasureoktoo:

Strange that. Isn't fundamental textualism the schtick of the Islamist fanatics you hate? Maybe you are closer to them than you think. Islam is far more than the uncreated Qur'an to anybody other than a fundamentalist. It is community, charity and faith in the ability to make a better world for humanity as an act of devotion to God/Allah. Islamic, Christian, Jewish, Hindu, and Buddhist fundamentalists can all pour over their holy books to find justifications or excuses for violence and atrocity. It is the sensible, thoughtful people and not the writings which temper fundamentalism in any faith. Islam is no different. So howl in rage and hate against the crescent moon and the evening star if you must, but know this, you are becoming the very thing you claim to hate.

Cheers and may peace be upon you.
Evilroddy.
 
Wha?...... This makes no sense.

Bomberfox:

I thought it was pretty clear. Tell me where I lost you and I will try to explain the desperate logic of national conflict and existential threat. Fortunately you and I don't have to live under this terrific (born of terror) logic, but some folks do. In their minds this makes sense.

Cheers.
Evilroddy.
 
Yasureoktoo:

. Islam is far more than the uncreated Qur'an

Evilroddy.

If only you knew how true that is.
The Qur'an is 14% of Islamic text.
The first bio of Muhammed is one of the most vile books written.
In 80%, of it, open to any page, he is robbing, raping, or killing someone.

The Muslims you hold so dear, are not condemning the written documentation of the religion.
I have read most of the religion, a lot more than most Muslims have, and it is really, really, really, nasty.

why do you think all these radical groups come up with the same stuff.
why do you think any westerner who studies the religion, comes up with the same stuff.
Because it is all documented, and your Muslim friends are not condemning it, for a better version.
 
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Do Palestinians want to follow Jordanian law or do they have their own or do they have to abide by Israeli law?
Forgive my ignorance

I believe they are more into sharia law.( Gods Law)
 
I believe they are more into sharia law.( Gods Law)

Kinda what I was getting at, Im pretty sure that Israeli's law is the law, authority, and governing body of East Jerusalem were this transaction is taking place so if Israeli law says its ok to sell the property to a Jew then its all ok no matter Jordanian law states cuz they have no jurisdiction. Even Palestinian authority doesn't matter in East Jerusalem because Jerusalem wasn't a part of the Oslo accords.
 
Here we have a case not of illegal and/or immoral settlements but a simple transfer of a tract of land. And Palestinians go berserk about it. No such law to my knowledge stopping a Palestinian from buying Israeli property.

93% of land in Israel is managed by the Israel Land Administration, which does not lease to Gentiles.
 
Kinda what I was getting at, Im pretty sure that Israeli's law is the law, authority, and governing body of East Jerusalem were this transaction is taking place so if Israeli law says its ok to sell the property to a Jew then its all ok no matter Jordanian law states cuz they have no jurisdiction. Even Palestinian authority doesn't matter in East Jerusalem because Jerusalem wasn't a part of the Oslo accords.

Except we have a huge contingency of Muslims all over the world, living under the laws of the country they are in, and ignoring the man made laws, in favor of God's law.
 
93% of land in Israel is managed by the Israel Land Administration, which does not lease to Gentiles.

Under Israeli law, the Israel Land Administration cannot lease land to foreign nationals. In practice foreigners may be allowed to lease if they show that they are eligible to immigrate to Israel in accordance with the Law of Return
 
Under Israeli law, the Israel Land Administration cannot lease land to foreign nationals. In practice foreigners may be allowed to lease if they show that they are eligible to immigrate to Israel in accordance with the Law of Return

Correct. Those Gentiles who hold Israeli citizenship are allowed to lease land. Most Palestinians however, do not hold Israeli citizenship, so the point still stands.

Note that Jews are allowed to lease ILA land regardless of nationality.
 
Do Palestinians want to follow Jordanian law or do they have their own or do they have to abide by Israeli law?
Forgive my ignorance

Technically the West Bank was under Jordanian control from 1948 to 1967 and did not officially release ownership until much later.
 
Correct. Those Gentiles who hold Israeli citizenship are allowed to lease land. Most Palestinians however, do not hold Israeli citizenship, so the point still stands.

Note that Jews are allowed to lease ILA land regardless of nationality.

Under Israeli law, the Israel Land Administration cannot lease land to foreign nationals.

Under Mexican law non-Mexicans cannot own Mexican land.

Ditto Vietnam, Thailand, Greece.

So what?

Its their land....
 
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