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[*W:193*] Israel considers banning entry to outspoken US congresswomen

Boom. Bottom line. The Jihad Squad gets entirely too much attention and let's face it, that's the set up here. Either way, they win. That's how they roll.

It is truly fascinating how the media brings absolutely everything back around to an attack on Trump. The level of propaganda is something I never figured I'd witness in America.
 
How the hell do you know that no good could come of it???

Just because no good came from trump meeting with Kim does not mean that others can not act diplomatic and achieve positive results.

Other than pure childish behavior why would trump even do this???

This is just u believable!!!

Do you honestly believe that this visit was any thing other than a stunt on the behalf of Talib and Omar, similar to AOC's visit to the border?
 
You do KNOW that the Ambassador said a month ago that they'd allow entry, then Trump weighed in, and Israel jumped like Trump publicly demanded, don't you?

Be gullible if you want. I'm not that stupid.

What's so sad and pathetic is next time Trump goes public with demands from a foreign government and that government does what Trump publicly demanded, all you guys will be giving Trump all the credit for influencing that decision. In this case, you expect us to pretend that public pressure from POTUS has NO INFLUENCE AT ALL!

It's so dumb that I can't really believe you are making the argument. Of course it matters what the United States as reflected by POTUS demands of foreign governments, especially Israel who relies on us for its very survival in many ways. That's a big part of POTUS's job - to use that position to make demands and get concessions from those foreign governments. But when it suits the argument, you guys pretend the opposite, that President of the United States has no influence whatsoever over foreign governments. Whatever it takes to defend Trump at that moment is all that matters, and you guys happily change your tune on that whenever Trump demands it. It's sad, really.

You are so lost...Days before Trump's tweet, Israel was weighing whether to let these two misfits, in favor of boycotting Israel, enter their country. Stop reading leftist propaganda, and learn the facts as to how Netanyahu made his decision.

“Congresswomen Tlaib and Omar are leading activists in promoting boycott legislation against Israel in the US Congress,” Netanyahu said.

He said that Israel received their itinerary only a few days ago, and it became clear that they were “planning a campaign whose sole purpose was to strengthen the boycott and to undermine Israel's legitimacy.”

"He pointed out that they referred to the visit as a visit to “Palestine,” and not to Israel, and – as opposed to all other Democratic and Republican representatives in the past – did not request any meeting with official Israeli representatives, either from the government or the opposition."

"Netanyahu said that the NGO that is sponsoring the trip – Miftah – is a fervent advocate of BDS and includes members who have supported terrorism against Israel."

Israel confirms: Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar will be barred from country - Breaking News - Jerusalem Post

But you go ahead and keep blaming Trump... :mrgreen:
 
It is truly fascinating how the media brings absolutely everything back around to an attack on Trump. The level of propaganda is something I never figured I'd witness in America.

I never thought I'd see our MSM as the propaganda arm of the Democrat party. I thought that **** was for Russia and North Korea. We're not different now.
 
You are so lost...Days before Trump's tweet, Israel was weighing whether to let these two misfits, in favor of boycotting Israel, enter their country. Stop reading leftist propaganda, and learn the facts as to how Netanyahu made his decision.

“Congresswomen Tlaib and Omar are leading activists in promoting boycott legislation against Israel in the US Congress,” Netanyahu said.

He said that Israel received their itinerary only a few days ago, and it became clear that they were “planning a campaign whose sole purpose was to strengthen the boycott and to undermine Israel's legitimacy.”

He pointed out that they referred to the visit as a visit to “Palestine,” and not to Israel, and – as opposed to all other Democratic and Republican representatives in the past – did not request any meeting with official Israeli representatives, either from the government or the opposition.

Netanyahu said that the NGO that is sponsoring the trip – Miftah – is a fervent advocate of BDS and includes members who have supported terrorism against Israel.

Israel confirms: Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar will be barred from country - Breaking News - Jerusalem Post

But you go ahead and keep blaming Trump... :mrgreen:

Reading Israel's PM's tweets, he laid out a solid case for not allowing these BDS supporters into Israel. There was never going to be attempts at diplomacy on their part. The sole purpose of their mission was to undermine Israel.
 
I never thought I'd see our MSM as the propaganda arm of the Democrat party. I thought that **** was for Russia and North Korea. We're not different now.

Were you asleep during 8 years of Obama?
 
Reading Israel's PM's tweets, he laid out a solid case for not allowing these BDS supporters into Israel. There was never going to be attempts at diplomacy on their part. The sole purpose of their mission was to undermine Israel.

:lamo :lamo :lamo
 
I'm not demanding anything! What the absolute **** are you people even talking about here?

The BDS movement has been going on for more than a decade, well before Trump. The two congressional representatives that Israel banned support that movement. Israel opposes that movement and the supporters of that movement. The prospect of denying the representatives a travel visa was already being discussed when Trump expressed his opinion.

A month ago the ambassador from Israel said they'd allow entry. Trump weighed in, they reversed that decision. Your conclusion - Trump and the United States has NO INFLUENCE ON ISRAEL'S DECISION!!

The US made no threats or promises to Israel with a design to influence their decision. Trump, like Omar and Talib, expressed his opinion. Israel chose to make their own decision.

It's like your boss expressing his opinion on something, you act in accordance to what your boss suggests, then claiming that the boss's opinion had no impact on your decision. Only the very stupid would believe that. Pretend if you want. I'm not that dumb.
 
You are so lost...Days before Trump's tweet, Israel was weighing whether to let these two misfits, in favor of boycotting Israel, enter their country. Stop reading leftist propaganda, and learn the facts as to how Netanyahu made his decision.

“Congresswomen Tlaib and Omar are leading activists in promoting boycott legislation against Israel in the US Congress,” Netanyahu said.

He said that Israel received their itinerary only a few days ago, and it became clear that they were “planning a campaign whose sole purpose was to strengthen the boycott and to undermine Israel's legitimacy.”

"He pointed out that they referred to the visit as a visit to “Palestine,” and not to Israel, and – as opposed to all other Democratic and Republican representatives in the past – did not request any meeting with official Israeli representatives, either from the government or the opposition."

"Netanyahu said that the NGO that is sponsoring the trip – Miftah – is a fervent advocate of BDS and includes members who have supported terrorism against Israel."

Israel confirms: Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar will be barred from country - Breaking News - Jerusalem Post

But you go ahead and keep blaming Trump... :mrgreen:

Got anything other than "he said"?
 
I never thought I'd see our MSM as the propaganda arm of the Democrat party. I thought that **** was for Russia and North Korea. We're not different now.

Journalism died in 2007 when the leftist mother ship took its place.
 
You are so lost...Days before Trump's tweet, Israel was weighing whether to let these two misfits, in favor of boycotting Israel, enter their country. Stop reading leftist propaganda, and learn the facts as to how Netanyahu made his decision.

“Congresswomen Tlaib and Omar are leading activists in promoting boycott legislation against Israel in the US Congress,” Netanyahu said.

He said that Israel received their itinerary only a few days ago, and it became clear that they were “planning a campaign whose sole purpose was to strengthen the boycott and to undermine Israel's legitimacy.”

"He pointed out that they referred to the visit as a visit to “Palestine,” and not to Israel, and – as opposed to all other Democratic and Republican representatives in the past – did not request any meeting with official Israeli representatives, either from the government or the opposition."

"Netanyahu said that the NGO that is sponsoring the trip – Miftah – is a fervent advocate of BDS and includes members who have supported terrorism against Israel."

Israel confirms: Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar will be barred from country - Breaking News - Jerusalem Post

But you go ahead and keep blaming Trump... :mrgreen:
Lol - maybe "Palestine" will issue them a visa.
 
Do you honestly believe that this visit was any thing other than a stunt on the behalf of Talib and Omar, similar to AOC's visit to the border?

You're not wrong....

Jerusalem Post Breaking News
ISRAEL CONFIRMS: RASHIDA TLAIB, ILHAN OMAR WILL BE BARRED FROM COUNTRY
Foreign Minister Israel Katz said that he supports the ban "due to their blatant support for the boycott of the State of Israel, terrorism against Israel and minimizing the Holocaust.

Israel will not allow US Congresswomen Ilhan Omar (D-Minnesota) and Rashida Tlaib (D-Michigan) into the country because of their vocal BDS advocacy, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Thursday.

Netanyahu issued a statement saying that no country in the world respects the US Congress more than Israel, but that Isaeli law prohibits entry to those calling for a boycott of the country. He said that other countries as well – including the US – bar entry to those who are perceived to want to harm them.He said that Israel is a “vibrant and free democracy” that is open to all criticism, with the exception of a call for boycotts.

“Congresswomen Tlaib and Omar are leading activists in promoting boycott legislation against Israel in the US Congress,” Netanyahu said.

He said that Israel received their itinerary only a few days ago, and it became clear that they were “planning a campaign whose sole purpose was to strengthen the boycott and to undermine Israel's legitimacy.”

He pointed out that they referred to the visit as a visit to “Palestine,” and not to Israel, and – as opposed to all other Democratic and Republican representatives in the past – did not request any meeting with official Israeli representatives, either from the government or the opposition
Oh, but Trump! :donkeyfla:donkeyfla:donkeyfla

Israel confirms: Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar will be barred from country - Breaking News - Jerusalem Post
 
Lol - maybe "Palestine" will issue them a visa.

Their plans are to boycott Israel which btw is against the law in Israel.
I think Palestine would welcome any boycotter of Israel, and Holocaust denier....
 
[h=1]Israel considers banning entry to outspoken US congresswomen[/h]Israel official: Netanyahu weighing ban on Omar, Tlaib visit - ABC News
Israel's prime minister and other top officials were meeting on Thursday to reevaluate the decision to allow two Democratic congresswomen who support the Palestinian-led boycott movement to enter the country next week.

An Israeli official said they were meeting about an upcoming visit by Rep. Ilhan Omar of Minnesota and Rep. Rashida Tlaib of Michigan. The newly-elected Muslim members of Congress are outspoken critics of Israel's treatment of the Palestinians. Tlaib's family immigrated to the United States from the West Bank.

The official, speaking on condition of anonymity in line with regulations, said "there is a possibility that Israel will not allow the visit in its current proposed format."

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It's official. Based on Trump's recommendation, Israel has banned both Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib. Wave 'bye bye' to your Constitutional freedoms people, they just got thrown out the window and are no longer part of the Constitution. Freedom of speech will come at a heavy price from now on.

How very American of you: pissed that a foreign country would have the nerve to ban entry of any of our fine citizens - even the ones who display open animosity to that country's very existence.

It's as if those arrogant bastards think they're a sovereign nation or some ****.

Americans deserve to go anywhere they please, right?
 
No. Expain it to me.
Use simple words though, if you dont mind.

Freedom of speech does not grant anyone the right to travel anywhere in the world and doesn't mean his words have no consequences and a country not allowing people who promote a boycott against it and its citizens to gain entry is not censoring anyone from saying anything. Implying that sovereignty is something money should buy is also in direct contradiction with the values of democracy (the same values that grant that freedom of speech to begin with).
 
Freedom of speech does not grant anyone the right to travel anywhere in the world and doesn't mean his words have no consequences and a country not allowing people who promote a boycott against it and its citizens to gain entry is not censoring anyone from saying anything. Implying that sovereignty is something money should buy is also in direct contradiction with the values of democracy (the same values that grant that freedom of speech to begin with).

I think the OP meant "shut up about Israel or else".
 
Yamakas off to Israel.Its their right to keep these two loud mouthed idiots from spewing their hatred.
 
Such disgust over one of America's closest allies and dearest friends; Israel. You label the POTUS as while attempting to sway people to your side of the fence. That's some pretty funny stuff.

Your emotionally laden, faux outrage performance deserves a bow.

I notice you haven't actually engaged in the core argument here, which is POTUS does have considerable influence over the decisions of our foreign allies and foes, and especially Israel due to the immense aid and other support we provide them now and over the decades. It's his job to exercise that influence on our behalf. When he does it in a way you want to support, you'll give Trump credit for that. Here you demand we pretend that he has no influence.

And FWIW, I've not attacked Israel at all here. I've attacked Trump. All I've said about Israel is that it's in their interest to do what the President of the United States demands, because Trump has immense influence over aid, our ME policies, Iran, etc. It's in their interest to say "how high" when POTUS says "Jump!"
 
Yep, I agree. Not being allowed to visit Israel or any other country doesn't put a muzzle on what one says, writes or whatever here. The first amendment only applies here, not in Israel, Germany, China, Russia, Mexico or even Canada or England. Although the latter two would be a whole lot more lax that the others. But all being sovereign countries can either let me enter or deny entry.

I think there is a question though of 1. Should we tolerate an ally banning our democratically elected leaders at the behest of a sitting president?

We have reached a level where we are tolerating the office of the Presidency used as a means to retaliate against members of the opposing party because they dare to speak out.

Especially when this is played out on the world stage. American has a somewhat checkered past when it comes to owning up to your ideals of freedom and democracy... but we seem to have now thrown our ideals to the wind and have exposed America as well.. a hypocritical nation that uses the words freedom and democracy as a punchline.
 
It is truly fascinating how the media brings absolutely everything back around to an attack on Trump. The level of propaganda is something I never figured I'd witness in America.

What's amazing is you right wingers ignore what the president does publicly, demand we treat it as irrelevant, then attack us and the media for pointing out what your eyes can see without any reporting at all by the media. Israel committed publicly to allowing those two entry a month ago. Trump publicly expresses opposition. Israel more or less immediately reverses their decision. You say, "pay no attention to your lying eyes!"

The level of gaslighting in defense of Trump is something I never figured I'd witness in America.
 
[h=1]Israel considers banning entry to outspoken US congresswomen[/h]Israel official: Netanyahu weighing ban on Omar, Tlaib visit - ABC News
Israel's prime minister and other top officials were meeting on Thursday to reevaluate the decision to allow two Democratic congresswomen who support the Palestinian-led boycott movement to enter the country next week.

An Israeli official said they were meeting about an upcoming visit by Rep. Ilhan Omar of Minnesota and Rep. Rashida Tlaib of Michigan. The newly-elected Muslim members of Congress are outspoken critics of Israel's treatment of the Palestinians. Tlaib's family immigrated to the United States from the West Bank.

The official, speaking on condition of anonymity in line with regulations, said "there is a possibility that Israel will not allow the visit in its current proposed format."

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It's official. Based on Trump's recommendation, Israel has banned both Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib. Wave 'bye bye' to your Constitutional freedoms people, they just got thrown out the window and are no longer part of the Constitution. Freedom of speech will come at a heavy price from now on.

No way this happens. Petty in the extreme.
 
You are so lost...Days before Trump's tweet, Israel was weighing whether to let these two misfits, in favor of boycotting Israel, enter their country. Stop reading leftist propaganda, and learn the facts as to how Netanyahu made his decision.

“Congresswomen Tlaib and Omar are leading activists in promoting boycott legislation against Israel in the US Congress,” Netanyahu said.

He said that Israel received their itinerary only a few days ago, and it became clear that they were “planning a campaign whose sole purpose was to strengthen the boycott and to undermine Israel's legitimacy.”

"He pointed out that they referred to the visit as a visit to “Palestine,” and not to Israel, and – as opposed to all other Democratic and Republican representatives in the past – did not request any meeting with official Israeli representatives, either from the government or the opposition."

"Netanyahu said that the NGO that is sponsoring the trip – Miftah – is a fervent advocate of BDS and includes members who have supported terrorism against Israel."

Israel confirms: Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar will be barred from country - Breaking News - Jerusalem Post

But you go ahead and keep blaming Trump... :mrgreen:

Right, POTUS has no influence over Israel's decision here, says the cult members. Next week/month when some country does something Trump wants done, it will be entirely due to the influence of Dear Leader, says the cult members.

It's fascinating in a sick kind of way.
 
Yamakas off to Israel.Its their right to keep these two loud mouthed idiots from spewing their hatred.

In the US you are allowed to spout your hate and be an idiot. Israel doesn't put up with that crap! This is another win for the good guy's. I just wish they would have waited until they were in the air to cancel on them.
 
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