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At least 7 injured including 2 infants in Gaza rocket attack on central Israel

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At least 7 injured, including 2 infants, in Gaza rocket attack on central Israel | The Times of Israel

At least 7 injured, including 2 infants, in Gaza rocket attack on central Israel

March 25, 2019. (courtesy) A rocket fired from the Gaza Strip struck a residential building in central Israel early Monday morning, injuring at least seven people, including two infants, and leveling the structure, officials said.
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This will most likely mean a new war with the Islamist terror group of Hamas.
 
Hamas is the only organization that can spend its international funds on weapons to kill jews, and sell it as "charity". I don't understand why Israel puts up with it, the US destroyed Afghanistan for less. Israel should march right in and destroy hamas once and for all. The international community would kick and scream for a month, and then move on.
 
DarkWizard12 said:
Hamas is the only organization that can spend its international funds on weapons to kill jews, and sell it as "charity". I don't understand why Israel puts up with it, the US destroyed Afghanistan for less. Israel should march right in and destroy hamas once and for all. The international community would kick and scream for a month, and then move on.
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Despite how bad the interactions have been between the two over the years. Just for them to do as such, really isn't Israel's way of doing things. Hell, they phone ahead of time. To make sure civilians aren't going to get caught in their own ordinance strikes.

Eventually this good will that Palestine has in it's favor, will run out and the rest of the world will just mark them off as a lost cause.
 
Apocalypse said:
At least 7 injured, including 2 infants, in Gaza rocket attack on central Israel | The Times of Israel



This will most likely mean a new war with the Islamist terror group of Hamas.
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When you only have a hammer in the tool box every problem has to be a nail

Terrible attack that should and would not have happened had there been a long term truce agreed and the blockading of Gaza eased. That's the civilized way to stop these types of attacks happening.

You prefer to see the cycle of violence continue , so your comments ring a little /lot hollow here imo
 
oneworld2 said:
When you only have a hammer in the tool box every problem has to be a nail

Terrible attack that should and would not have happened had there been a long term truce agreed and the blockading of Gaza eased. That's the civilized way to stop these types of attacks happening.

You prefer to see the cycle of violence continue , so your comments ring a little /lot hollow here imo
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You blame the victims for the terrorism and that's nothing new.
The terrorists are responsible.
 
oneworld2 said:
When you only have a hammer in the tool box every problem has to be a nail

Terrible attack that should and would not have happened had there been a long term truce agreed and the blockading of Gaza eased. That's the civilized way to stop these types of attacks happening.

You prefer to see the cycle of violence continue , so your comments ring a little /lot hollow here imo
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You keep crying about the blockade. Even though the reasons for the blockade have been gi en to you time and again.
 
This was a tragedy and a crime. My best wishes for the full and quick recovery of all the injured.

Hopefully the State of Israel will have the good sense to respond carefully and proportionately to this terrorist attack by figuring out exactly which organisation was responsible for launching the missile attack and then targeting that organisation alone. A general raid or invasion of Gaza would be an over-reaction and would be seen by the world as a disproportionate act of collective punishment rather than a proper response.

However with hotly contested Israeli elections in the near future perhaps a disproportionate response will be used to rally the people of Israel behind Likud's militaristic and religio-nationalist agenda. I hope that doesn't happen.

With sympathy and pain for the injured in Tel Aviv.
Evilroddy
 
Evilroddy said:
This was a tragedy and a crime. My best wishes for the full and quick recovery of all the injured.

Hopefully the State of Israel will have the good sense to respond carefully and proportionately to this terrorist attack by figuring out exactly wich organisation was responsible for launching the missile attack and then targeting that organisation alone. A general raid or invasion of Gaza would be an over-reaction and would be seen by the world as a disproportionate act of collective punishment rather than a proper response.

However with hotly contested elections in the near future perhaps a disproportionate response will be used to rally the people of Israel behind Likud's militaristic and religio-nationalist agenda. I hope that doesn't happen.

With sympathy and pain for the injured in Tel Aviv.
Evilroddy
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Since a raid into Gaza to attack the terrorists would be "disproportionate" what to you suggest?

No sugar for their coffee?
 
Convenient for Bibi..

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Fledermaus said:
Since a raid into Gaza to attack the terrorists would be "disproportionate" what to you suggest?

No sugar for their coffee?
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Fledermaus:

As no one was killed by the rocket/missile attack, as far as I know, an Israeli missile strike at an Hamas or Islamic Jihad building of importance when lots of militants are about would be appropriate. First figure out who launched the missile and then target that organisation's personnel and infrastructure for a proportional response.

Cheers.
Evilroddy.
 
Evilroddy said:
Fledermaus:

As no one was killed by the rocket/missile attack, as far as I know, an Israeli missile strike at an Hamas or Islamic Jihad building of importance when lots of militants are about would be appropriate. First figure out who launched the missile and then target that organisation's personnel and infrastructure for a proportional response.

Cheers.
Evilroddy.
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If I drive by your house and fire a few dozen rounds into it injuring multiple people its cool because no one d?

Interesting.

When Israel targets Hamas leaders people cry and moan "extra judicial execution".
 
Fledermaus said:
If I drive by your house and fire a few dozen rounds into it injuring multiple people its cool because no one d?

Interesting.

When Israel targets Hamas leaders people cry and moan "extra judicial execution".
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That's your words, not his Fled. Nowhere did he say "it was cool because no one d". (assuming you mean "died").

His position here is reasonable, surely? Target the organisations personnel and infrastructure for a proportional response. What do you disagree with?

Specifically regarding this part of your post;

When Israel targets Hamas leaders people cry and moan "extra judicial execution".
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Not me. I really couldn't care less if Hamas or other factions responsible are targeted by the IDF in response to an attack on their civilians. They targeted residential buildings, young children were injured. That is never ok.
 
Serenity said:
That's your words, not his Fled. Nowhere did he say "it was cool because no one d". (assuming you mean "died").

His position here is reasonable, surely? Target the organisations personnel and infrastructure for a proportional response. What do you disagree with?

Specifically regarding this part of your post;

Not me. I really couldn't care less if Hamas or other factions responsible are targeted by the IDF in response to an attack on their civilians. They targeted residential buildings, young children were injured. That is never ok.
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I agree with you 100% on this.

And I was being a bit hyperbolic with Roddy. I think he can tell.:)
 
Fledermaus said:
I agree with you 100% on this.

And I was being a bit hyperbolic with Roddy. I think he can tell.:)
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So shutting down all the entrances to Gaza preventing the movement of people goods or supplies, and forcing even the fishermen to stay ashore while Gaza is bombed in response is ....rational? Collective punishment?
 
Manc Skipper said:
So shutting down all the entrances to Gaza preventing the movement of people goods or supplies, and forcing even the fishermen to stay ashore while Gaza is bombed in response is ....rational? Collective punishment?
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Israel can't close all the exits.

Please fail again.

BTW - What law requires Israel to open its border to a hostile entity?
 
Fledermaus said:
I agree with you 100% on this.

And I was being a bit hyperbolic with Roddy. I think he can tell.:)
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Fledermaus:

Unfortunately I'm not that bright. I missed the hyperbole so I guess I almost made an asymptote of myself. :) (this is called bad pun-ishment).

There was an eye-roll and an instantaneous composition of a polemic against disproportionate military responses by Israel but then I saw your response to Serenity's post and the wind went out of my sails, damn it! It seems the wise lady from down-under saved you from a disproportionate written response, so thank your lucky stars for that. Everything is still Bravo Zulu...... for now.

Cheers.
Evilroddy.
 
Evilroddy said:
Fledermaus:

Unfortunately I'm not that bright. I missed the hyperbole so I guess I almost made an asymptote of myself. :) (this is called bad pun-ishment).

There was an eye-roll and an instantaneous composition of a polemic against disproportionate military responses by Israel but then I saw your response to Serenity's post and the wind went out of my sails, damn it! It seems the wise lady from down-under saved you from a disproportionate written response, so thank your lucky stars for that. Everything is still Bravo Zulu...... for now.

Cheers.
Evilroddy.
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:thumbs:
 
Israel has responded responsibly and proportionately by hitting Hamas command and training infrastructure buildings with missile attacks. Two buildings were hit and five persons are reported as having been injured. This was a sensible targeted reprisal rather than a wide-spread military raid which would have been so damaging that it would have amounted to collective punishment waged against all Gazans regardless of culpability.

Cheers.
Evilroddy.
 
Hamas and their hideous terrorist jihadi soldiers need to be utterly and thoroughly condemned for this.

Palestinians should no longer tolerate Hamas.
 
Obscurity said:
Hamas and their hideous terrorist jihadi soldiers need to be utterly and thoroughly condemned for this.

Palestinians should no longer tolerate Hamas.
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Obscurity:

Alas, Hamas and its militant allies control the guns so the people of Gaza have no choice but to tolerate Hamas. At the next level up, Israel has most of the guns and all of the armour and military aircraft so the Gazans are forced to tolerate them too.

The answer is to do an end run around Hamas by screwing up Israel badly by non-violent means. This will impose economic and political costs on Israel while if successful will demonstrate to all Gazans and all Palestinians that non-violent resistance can be more effective than violent resistance. Once that understanding is made general enough, then Hamas will be unable to legitimise its violence and militancy to its own people and thus its grip on Gaza will weaken as the non-violent resistance becomes more effective. So what grass-roots Gazan organisations should do is to begin a wide-spread and very tech savvy digital intifada which targets Israel's economy, its politics, its international reputation and the minds of foreigners and Israelis alike. Palestine will never become strong enough to liberate itself from the Israeli yoke by force of arms but it can be smart enough to be so costly and so annoying that Israel will finally cut it loose and agree to full sovereignty based on the pre-1967 boundries if the resistance is both global and brainy/creative enough.

Cheers.
Evilroddy.
 
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Evilroddy said:
Obscurity:

Alas, Hamas and its militant allies control the guns so the people of Gaza have no choice but to tolerate Hamas. At the next level up, Israel has most of the guns and all of the armour and military aircraft so the Gazans are forced to tolerate them too.

The answer is to do an end run around Hamas by screwing up Israel badly by non-violent means. This will impose economic and political costs on Israel while if successful will demonstrate to all Gazans and all Palestinians that non-violent resistance can be more effective than violent resistance. Once that understanding is made general enough, then Hamas will be unable to legitimise its violence and militancy to its own people and thus its grip on Gaza will weaken as the non-violent resistance becomes more effective. So what grass-roots Gazan organisations should do is to begin a wide-spread and very tech savvy digital intifada which targets Israel's economy, its politics, its international reputation and the minds of foreigners and Israelis alike. Palestine will never become strong enough to liberate itself from the Israeli yoke by force of arms but it can be smart enough to be so costly and so annoying that Israel will finally cut it loose and agree to full sovereignty based on the pre-1967 boundries if the resistance is both global and brainy/creative enough.

Cheers.
Evilroddy.
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All the Gazans need to do is to stop attacking Israel and this will end any warfare between their territory and Israel's as well as the military blockade.
They can never succeed in trying to harm it, neither violently as you (fortunately) recognize nor non-violently.
Israel will prevail and continue to prosper because of its determination and because honestly it has to - there's no other choice for it but to prevail and prosper.
 
Apocalypse said:
All the Gazans need to do is to stop attacking Israel and this will end any warfare between their territory and Israel's as well as the military blockade.
They can never succeed in trying to harm it, neither violently as you (fortunately) recognize nor non-violently.
Israel will prevail and continue to prosper because of its determination and because honestly it has to - there's no other choice for it but to prevail and prosper.
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Nope , Israel needs to give up the Greater Israel project which , with the use of Israeli citizens in the form of illegal settlers as human shields for the lands themselves , makes a complete mockery of the claims it makes about the security of it citizens being the driver for the attacks against it's neighbours and the wholesale violations of their rights. None more so that the Palestinian people themselves
 
oneworld2 said:
Nope , Israel needs to give up the Greater Israel project which , with the use of Israeli citizens in the form of illegal settlers as human shields for the lands themselves , makes a complete mockery of the claims it makes about the security of it citizens being the driver for the attacks against it's neighbours and the wholesale violations of their rights. None more so that the Palestinian people themselves
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Now another twisting of the meaning of human shields by the person not accepting the wholesale use of human shields by Hamas.
 
Fledermaus said:
Now another twisting of the meaning of human shields by the person not accepting the wholesale use of human shields by Hamas.
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Evidence and knowledge are on my side not yours
 
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