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[W:56W:439]U.N. report on Gaza says Israeli forces may have committed war crimes

Obscurity said:
Alll conjecture and hot air.

Why won't you address the illegal actions of Israel?

ADDRESS THEM!
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Ever felt like you were talking to a parrot? You'd get more sense out of trying to explain Pythagoras' theorem to your dog than that character.
 
Obscurity said:
Alll conjecture and hot air.

Why won't you address the illegal actions of Israel?

ADDRESS THEM!
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You cannot base any of your false accusations and propaganda nonsense, what is there to address in empty accusations?

You robbed a jewelry store.
Go ahead, ADDRESS THIS!

Hysterical, but shows the kind of logic behind radical world views.
 
Fledermaus said:
I am not the one that launched TENS OF THOUSANDS of rockets and mortar, nor did I carry out suicide bombings, nor did I commit knife attacks or any other form of terrorism....
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There were no 'tens of thousands' of rocket attacks, so quit lying or prove it. I can easily prove you wrong...
Israel was born from terrorism; the King David hotel bombing, the Sergeant's affair, Deir Yassin massacre. Shall I go on, or are you going to either deny they occurred or attempt to justify them as 'freedom fighters'? I can't wait.
In the meantime...The Sergeants affair - Wikipedia
Kidnapping, Kangaroo court, hanging and booby-trapping the bodies. Defend that.
 
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Apocalypse said:
You cannot base any of your false accusations and propaganda nonsense, what is there to address in empty accusations?

You robbed a jewelry store.
Go ahead, ADDRESS THIS!

Hysterical, but shows the kind of logic behind radical world views.
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False accusations?

My accusations are backed up with the UN, HRW, and video evidence.

Address the crimes of israel and tell me why they shouldn't be held accountable for them.
 
Obscurity said:
False accusations?

My accusations are backed up with the UN, HRW, and video evidence.

Address the crimes of israel and tell me why they shouldn't be held accountable for them.
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Israel has never, ever, committed any crimes. Didn't he tell you?
 
Obscurity said:
False accusations?

My accusations are backed up with the UN, HRW, and video evidence.

Address the crimes of israel and tell me why they shouldn't be held accountable for them.
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None of them are based.
You present us with a video of a biased organization showing a stone thrower being shot at the leg and claim this is showing Israeli war crimes.
We don't know what happened there prior to the shot, we don't know why the commander ordered the sniper to shoot him, we don't know anything.
And if there was a non legitimate shot, that doesn't mean that it's not a fault of a commander or a soldier and that this is the fault of Israel entirely as a state and that this fault is of criminal nature.

You've made all of those assumptions both immediately and based on nothing at all, because you're biased.

Likeiwse, you quote HRW which is a biased group as proven in a previous comment making empty accusations.
What's the point?

I'll borrow your remark from earlier; you're not fooling anyone.
 
Apocalypse said:
None of them are based.
You present us with a video of a biased organization showing a stone thrower being shot at the leg and claim this is showing Israeli war crimes.
We don't know what happened there prior to the shot, we don't know why the commander ordered the sniper to shoot him, we don't know anything.
And if there was a non legitimate shot, that doesn't mean that it's not a fault of a commander or a soldier and that this is the fault of Israel entirely as a state and that this fault is of criminal nature.

You've made all of those assumptions both immediately and based on nothing at all, because you're biased.

Likeiwse, you quote HRW which is a biased group as proven in a previous comment making empty accusations.
What's the point?

I'll borrow your remark from earlier; you're not fooling anyone.
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Video evidence of settlement building. Illegal occupation of the Golan. Illegal expansion of territory in Gaza.

The list is endless.

Without using the words: bias, anti-semite, antisemitic; address the illicit actions of your rogue state, or concede.
 
Apocalypse said:
None of them are based.
You present us with a video of a biased organization showing a stone thrower being shot at the leg and claim this is showing Israeli war crimes.
We don't know what happened there prior to the shot, we don't know why the commander ordered the sniper to shoot him, we don't know anything.
And if there was a non legitimate shot, that doesn't mean that it's not a fault of a commander or a soldier and that this is the fault of Israel entirely as a state and that this fault is of criminal nature.

You've made all of those assumptions both immediately and based on nothing at all, because you're biased.

Likeiwse, you quote HRW which is a biased group as proven in a previous comment making empty accusations.
What's the point?

I'll borrow your remark from earlier; you're not fooling anyone.
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Human Rights Watch arranged the release of Gilad Shalit. Tell us how 'biased' they are again.
 
Felis Leo said:
I can and will only take the United Nations inquiries into Israel more seriously when they apply a consistent standard across the board
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I am trying to recall if consistency in that august body has ever happened.....
 
Obscurity said:
Video evidence of settlement building. Illegal occupation of the Golan. Illegal expansion of territory in Gaza.

The list is endless.

Without using the words: bias, anti-semite, antisemitic; address the illicit actions of your rogue state, or concede.
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By placing the burden of proof constantly on those opposing the empty accusations you make, you're proving why you're not adhereing to any form of logic.
Is empty propaganda all you can do?
 
snakestretcher said:
There were no 'tens of thousands' of rocket attacks, so quit lying or prove it. I can easily prove you wrong...
Israel was born from terrorism; the King David hotel bombing, the Sergeant's affair, Deir Yassin massacre. Shall I go on, or are you going to either deny they occurred or attempt to justify them as 'freedom fighters'? I can't wait.
In the meantime...The Sergeants affair - Wikipedia
Kidnapping, Kangaroo court, hanging and booby-trapping the bodies. Defend that.
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There were tens of thousands of rocket and mortar attacks by the Palestinians on Israeli civilians.

Your ignorance of that fact is telling.

As to the King David Hotel. A military target. And there were warnings so that civilians could evacuate. The warnings were ignored.

When a Palestinian blows up a market place is that a military target? No. That is terror directed at civilians.
 
Fledermaus said:
There were tens of thousands of rocket and mortar attacks by the Palestinians on Israeli civilians.

Your ignorance of that fact is telling.

As to the King David Hotel. A military target. And there were warnings so that civilians could evacuate. The warnings were ignored.

When a Palestinian blows up a market place is that a military target? No. That is terror directed at civilians.
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And the Sergeant's affair, Deir Yassin massacre? Were they also 'military targets' or terrorism? I note you avoided mentioning them in your reply. Can you explain why? (Not that it needs an explanation).
 
Apocalypse said:
By placing the burden of proof constantly on those opposing the empty accusations you make, you're proving why you're not adhereing to any form of logic.
Is empty propaganda all you can do?
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Talking to you is literally like talking to a wall.

Did Israel, or did Israel not, sieze land and build settlements on it?

Did Israel, or did Israel not, knowingly attack targets in mass civilian areas knowing collateral damage was a huge risk?
 
snakestretcher said:
And the Sergeant's affair, Deir Yassin massacre? I note you avoided mentioning them. Can you explain why? (Not that it needs an explanation).
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If you want dueling terror, then let's go.

Bus 405 boming
Mehola Junction bombing
Beit El car bombing
Afula Bus bombing

Your turn.
 
Apocalypse said:
By placing the burden of proof constantly on those opposing the empty accusations you make, you're proving why you're not adhereing to any form of logic.
Is empty propaganda all you can do?
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No, the burden is on you to DISPROVE what is already proven to be true. You don't like it, but frankly, I don't give a damn about your feelings.
 
snakestretcher said:
Well, considering your total denial of any Israeli wrongdoing, I'd suggest that was quite an accurate response.
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To be fair, he hasn't denied all israeli wrong doing.
 
snakestretcher said:
"Empty accusations"? Speak for yourself. Everyone, any nation who dares criticise Israel is, according to you, not doing so because there are valid reasons, but because they are anti-Semitic. That's the most pathetically inadequate argument you can possibly make-and sadly it is the only one you have.
Someone once said, 'a closed mind is like a closed book; a block of wood'. Take note.
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Someone also said , never try to reason out that which was never reasoned in.

I admire and respect you attempts to enlighten this individual but a word to the wise with the above.
 
Fledermaus said:
If you want dueling terror, then let's go.

Bus 405 boming

Your turn.
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Bus 405 was not a " boming " ( sic ) incident. You really should do the research before you spout nonsense imo

Seems like you have learned nothing since that foaming and erroneous rant about arms finds circa Gaza 2004 and who was behind them

Mehola Junction bombing
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Was the first car suicide bombing IIRC and the car was exploded between a bus full of troops and a civilian bus. If you contend that the King David Hotel attack was a legitimate attack against a military target , which you do , then you are compelled, by your own logic, to view the Mehola Junction bombing in the same light. My guess , and it is an educated one based on this post alone , is that you have no idea what you are talking about and your citing of this incident is based on a lack of knowledge about it IE that you didn't know about the bus full of IDF troops parked next to the car when it was exploded.

Inaccuracy is a real feature of your commentary here
 
Obscurity said:
No, the burden is on you to DISPROVE what is already proven to be true. You don't like it, but frankly, I don't give a damn about your feelings.
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You're making yourself completely irrelevant when you openly base your words on lies and claim they are true because you said so.
It's ridiculous. And spare me the personal attacks, they merely tell me that you realize you're saying things that are completely stupid.
 
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