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    Re: Terror Tunnels ?

    Quote Originally Posted by oneworld2 View Post
    Nope, the time to get shut of Saddam Hussein was after the 1991 invasion when the US led coalition actively ensured that his grip on power would be complete despite Bush snr calling for Iraqis to overthrow him. Had that happened what need would there have been for any sanctions ? None , but the fear was Iranian profit. So they decided to ensure SH regime would stay in power.

    So even before the sanctions the chance was there to oust SH it just wasn't supported by the US and so it never happened. Crucial event with respect to the rest of the content in this post

    And at first he didn't comply with weapons inspections and then he did. Rolf Ekeus , former weapons inspector was on the verge of certifying that Iraq had no WMDs when the Clinton government decided to move the goalposts on the sanctions removal to removal of SH himself ( a breach of the UN charter ) he stopped cooperating again.

    It isn't hard to work out that the sanctions were to be imposed until regime change was reached. So to recap. They were first introduced to pressure SH to retreat from Kuwait. Then they morphed into pressure for SH regime to destroy WMDs. Then they morphed into a pressure tactic for regime change itself . That's the reality and thus the sanctions were never going to be stopped REGARDLESS of what was agreed to because what was agreed to kept changing as each justification for them was negated

    So yep your country( and my own ) deliberately changed agreements to make sure the sanctions would be there for the long haul and thus bear responibility for the people that died every bit as much as SH did


    Wow...

    All that typing trying to remove the blood from Saddam's hands..

    More "Murica" to blame for Saddam's butchery...

    As to the squashing of the Shiites that was Saddam being Saddam. Pure and simple. Just as he slaughtered Kurds and others routinely.

    Now you blame America for NOT interfering in Iraqi internal division...

    Make up your mind.

    As to WMDs Saddam did everything possible to prevent unfettered inspection and to keep the illusion alive that he still was capable of WMDs.

    Again. Saddam being Saddam.

    And he had the ability to end the sanctions.

    He didn't. For the reasons I gave.

    Saddam's fault.

    To recap. Saddam being Saddam led to Saddam being found in a hole.
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    Re: Terror Tunnels ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fledermaus View Post
    Wow...

    All that typing trying to remove the blood from Saddam's hands..

    More "Murica" to blame for Saddam's butchery...

    As to the squashing of the Shiites that was Saddam being Saddam. Pure and simple. Just as he slaughtered Kurds and others routinely.

    Now you blame America for NOT interfering in Iraqi internal division...

    Make up your mind.

    As to WMDs Saddam did everything possible to prevent unfettered inspection and to keep the illusion alive that he still was capable of WMDs.

    Again. Saddam being Saddam.

    And he had the ability to end the sanctions.

    He didn't. For the reasons I gave.

    Saddam's fault.

    To recap. Saddam being Saddam led to Saddam being found in a hole.
    Emotional need to whitewash US actions just as expected
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    Re: Terror Tunnels ?

    Quote Originally Posted by oneworld2 View Post
    Emotional need to whitewash US actions just as expected
    What did I state that is incorrect?
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