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Doctors Without Borders confirms slain terrorist was an employee

Nobody knows whether this person who allegedly attacked IDF soldiers is a Hamas member or not. And the medics shot in the recent protests were shot whilst trying to help the injured or even when there was nothing going on in their locality.

There's a whole lot not to like about the tactics employed by Hamas , PIJ etc but the truth is that there is also a lot of hype and propaganda. I had to remind people here that attacking the soldiers of an occupying force is not terrorism.

The two videos you cited , and I will take it that the translations are true , show Hamas people encouraging and praising people for making themselves into human shields. That's different to being forced into being one such as when the IDF forces a kid to open bags they believe might be booby trapped etc
Hamas wouldn’t let this to happen without his permission.
The videos shows Hamas admitting that the human shields tactics works.

You can try to sanitise the use of Palestinians as human shields by the IDF with user friendly terms such as " neighbourhood procedure " etc but anyone with any sense should see right through it for the PR junk it is................. forcing people to do military tasks that endanger their lives is a crime

And they have done more than ask people to go to a "terrorists " house........

https://www.btselem.org/topic/human_shields

Also the use of Palestinians was ended by Human Rights groups challenges , not by the IDF itself nor the Israeli governments who evidently saw nothing wrong with it
"neighbor procedure" it's the name of this practice I didn’t choose the name.
How many Palestinians killed due to "neighbor procedure"?
The answer for that question will show you the purpose of this procedure which is capturing terrorists and not maximize the death toll of civilians like Hamas is doing. The assertion was that the terrorist inside the house won’t shoot his relatives when they will tell him to surrender. Anyway the Israeli Supreme Court outlawed this long ago at 2005, so I guess you can try to dig up something else. And you know this could never happen in Gaza because they don't have Supreme Court and they don't believe in such value.

You haven't shown anything of the sort................ encouragement and praise are very different to force

My view is that FORCING people into being human shields is abhorrent no matter who does it , for you it's okay for Israelis to have done it , hence the resort to consumer friendly terms aimed at masking what is really going on , whilst staying silent that the practice was only ended when HR groups challenged it
Here some examples of Hamas tactics -





As I said there ample of evidence about Hamas tactics.

And you are wrong and your view it’s pretty clear to everyone who reads your posts.
The IDF chose the name " neighbor procedure” not me ,as I said the practice was that the neighbor of the terrorist was sent to the terrorist house and telling him the IDF caught him and he needs to give up. That’s the reason for the name.
So as I said another anti-Israel argument goes to trash. If you really care about Palestinians than you should go against Hamas tactics which causing the death of many Palestinians civilians.
 
Fighting a guerilla war in a densely populated area against an attacking army is bound to put combatants and civilians in close proximity but that doesn't mean that the charge of human shields being used has any validity.

Ahh, yes....that's why they need to store weapons inside hospitals, mosques, and schools. Yes, such hand-waving at these things really shows where your bias and facts lay with.
 
Hamas wouldn’t let this to happen without his permission.

You are clitching at straws because you cannot prove your references that this man that allegedly attacked IDF soldiers was a Hamas member.

Have you any proof he was a member/associate of Hamas ?

The videos shows Hamas admitting that the human shields tactics works.

The video shows a Hamas member praising Gazans for using themselves as a human shield in order to prevent a house being destroyed.

What don't you understand about the IDF coercion of Palestinians for use as human shields being worse than Hamas praise for it ?

"neighbor procedure" it's the name of this practice I didn’t choose the name.
How many Palestinians killed due to "neighbor procedure"?
The answer for that question will show you the purpose of this procedure which is capturing terrorists and not maximize the death toll of civilians like Hamas is doing. The assertion was that the terrorist inside the house won’t shoot his relatives when they will tell him to surrender. Anyway the Israeli Supreme Court outlawed this long ago at 2005, so I guess you can try to dig up something else. And you know this could never happen in Gaza because they don't have Supreme Court and they don't believe in such value.


What don't you understand about it being ILLEGAL to make civilians perform military tasks that put them in danger ?

What don't you understand about the fact that it was the actions of some very brave and commendable Israelis involved in Human Rights groups that FORCED an end to an illegal procedure that had been common practice by the IDF with the blessing of the Israeli leaderships ?

Your repeated attempts to justify the widespread use of Palestinians as human shields puts you in the very same category as the Hamas spokesman you cite in your bid to attack Hamas tactics. The irony of which is evidently lost on you but not on me



So as I said another anti-Israel argument goes to trash. If you really care about Palestinians than you should go against Hamas tactics which causing the death of many Palestinians civilians.

It hasn't gone to trash at all

You have justified the use by the IDF of Palestinians as human shields whilst trying to turn encouragement from Hamas for Palestinians who chose for themselves ]/b] to to put themselves in harms way in order to try to stop their homes being destroyed into the idea that they too have coerced them into it when the evidence from numerous sources shows otherwise
 
Ahh, yes....that's why they need to store weapons inside hospitals, mosques, and schools. Yes, such hand-waving at these things really shows where your bias and facts lay with.

There's something you haven't factored in here, unsurprisingly

If the point of hiding stuff or combatants in schools and or health facilities, mosques etc is to prevent them from being attacked you would think they would have learned by now that it's a failed tactic seeing as the IDF will attack these facilities anyway, regardless of their civilian status.

You should have read the article I cited for you that concerned itself with what military conduct is legal and what is not

Your claim, like the other poster here , that Hamas systematically uses Palestinians as human shields has been rubbished by everyone/group that has ever investigated it from the UN to HRW to Amnesty International.

The very well documented use of Palestinians as human shields by the IDF on the other hand and your complete silence on it shows who truly wishes to deny the facts in order to maintain their own preferred bias
 
There's something you haven't factored in here, unsurprisingly

If the point of hiding stuff or combatants in schools and or health facilities, mosques etc is to prevent them from being attacked you would think they would have learned by now that it's a failed tactic seeing as the IDF will attack these facilities anyway, regardless of their civilian status.

You should have read the article I cited for you that concerned itself with what military conduct is legal and what is not

Your claim, like the other poster here , that Hamas systematically uses Palestinians as human shields has been rubbished by everyone/group that has ever investigated it from the UN to HRW to Amnesty International.

The very well documented use of Palestinians as human shields by the IDF on the other hand and your complete silence on it shows who truly wishes to deny the facts in order to maintain their own preferred bias

It's not a failed tactic. They want civilian deaths, the beg for it. It garners sympathy from the easily fooled because the only thing that have a chance at winning is the court of public opinion on the international stage. Lots of useful people that are ignorant of the realities that exist.
 
I wonder why this incident is not played up by the liberal media like that incident with the female medical aid was. (/sarcasm)
It's been now 3 or 4 days since that happened and I don't see any headlines from CNN or NYT about Israel "killing" medical aids at Gaza.

It's all so unfair, isn't it?
 
Member when Obama bombed Doctors without Borders? Peperidge farms remembers.

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You are clitching at straws because you cannot prove your references that this man that allegedly attacked IDF soldiers was a Hamas member.
Have you any proof he was a member/associate of Hamas ?
No.
It has Hamas written all over it. The weapon , the explosive and the grenades , it not the first time we seeing this and he didn’t get his military training in Doctors Without Borders.

The video shows a Hamas member praising Gazans for using themselves as a human shield in order to prevent a house being destroyed.
The videos shows Hamas admitting that the human shields tactics works.

What don't you understand about the IDF coercion of Palestinians for use as human shields being worse than Hamas praise for it ?
You can ignore Hamas killing its own people all you want, but the facts is in my side. Hamas is a terrorist organization which killing its own people.
And the fact you are going miles to defend Hamas actions speaks volume about how you are caring about the Palestinians.

What don't you understand about it being ILLEGAL to make civilians perform military tasks that put them in danger ?
Nice dodge.
You should read the posts you replaying to.

What don't you understand about the fact that it was the actions of some very brave and commendable Israelis involved in Human Rights groups that FORCED an end to an illegal procedure that had been common practice by the IDF with the blessing of the Israeli leaderships ?

Disagreements happens in every country but it’s seems that decision of the Israeli supreme court bother you. Israel has Supreme Court unlike Hamas which execute Gazans without a trial and dragged their corpses all over the city. The rule of law it something the Gazans don’t familiar with.

Your repeated attempts to justify the widespread use of Palestinians as human shields puts you in the very same category as the Hamas spokesman you cite in your bid to attack Hamas tactics. The irony of which is evidently lost on you but not on me
Wrong as usual.
I showed you that the intention of the IDF is very different from the one of Hamas, and as a proof only one Arab hurt even though the IDF used this practice hundreds of times during 2000-2005, unlike Hamas which causing the death of many civilians in Gaza. So as it seems you don’t really care about Arabs lives it just an excuse to bashing Israel.

It hasn't gone to trash at all
You have justified the use by the IDF of Palestinians as human shields whilst trying to turn encouragement from Hamas for Palestinians who chose for themselves ]/b] to to put themselves in harms way in order to try to stop their homes being destroyed into the idea that they too have coerced them into it when the evidence from numerous sources shows otherwise

Nope.
You couldn’t care less about the Palestinians they are not the issue for you. You are trying to show the IDF is a terrorists organization just like Hamas and you failing because the reality hit you every time. But keep cheering for Hamas and intentionally ignore their actions, but the US and the EU and many more countries recognize Hamas as terrorist organization, they don't intentionally ignore Hamas actions. Also many of them collaborate with the IDF.
So I guess you can go and try to dig up something else.
 
It's not a failed tactic. They want civilian deaths, the beg for it. It garners sympathy from the easily fooled because the only thing that have a chance at winning is the court of public opinion on the international stage. Lots of useful people that are ignorant of the realities that exist.
You right. The IDF called off many airstrikes due to civilians, here are couple examples :




It's pretty clear the IDF is doing the best to avoid harming civilians while Hamas is doing the best to increase the death toll of civilians - Gazans and Israeli as one.
 
You right. The IDF called off many airstrikes due to civilians, here are couple examples :

It's pretty clear the IDF is doing the best to avoid harming civilians while Hamas is doing the best to increase the death toll of civilians - Gazans and Israeli as one.

I'm sure in many cases they have, but I'm sure that's also not always the case. There's just no way to cleanly fight Hamas, seeing their tactics are what they are. There's really no way to cleanly fight any war, asymmetric or otherwise.
 
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