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Third embassy to open in Jerusalem in under two weeks [W:159]

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RabidAlpaca said:
The Palestinians say because the other terms of the deal were terribly slanted towards Israel, is that so hard to believe? You seriously are sitting there with a straight face and pretending the Palestinians simply did not want to become a country? If the deal had been heavily in favor of Palestine and involved Israelis making major concessions on land, they wouldn't have signed it either, yet we still would recognize their existence as a country.



How does rejecting one proposed partition plan suddenly make them permanent stateless nomads who deserve no country? They say the deal offered was slanted towards Israelis and wasn't a fair agreement. Why would they sign something they view as unfair?
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I have an answer to that on my computer at work....
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Peace as long as Jerusalem belongs only to them and they share it with no one, yes. Palestini-who? Nom nom.
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Here what i wrote on this subject-
Moment of history - Israel allows people of all faiths access to the country’s myriad holy sites. In fact, Israeli law mandates that everyone, regardless of religious affiliation, has the right to visit all holy places within Israel.
By contrast, between 1949 and 1967, when Jordan controlled the holy sites, all Israelis were forbidden from entering East Jerusalem, including the Old City. Additionally, holy sites and Jewish cemeteries within East Jerusalem were desecrated. Upon gaining control of all of Jerusalem in 1967, Israel immediately opened the area to people of all faiths so that they would be free to worship at their respective holy sites without threat of violence or persecution.
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Unitedwestand13 said:
In 1947, Palestine was still a territory under British control. The Majority of the population were native Arabs. The Jewish population? Most immigrants from countries in Eastern Europe aand Western Europe who survived the horrors of world war 2.


If I was a native in Palestine and if I learned that my homeland was being carved up by the rulers and land was being given to foreigners who claimed that they were returning to their home land, I would get angry.
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If that is the argumment so the the history connection of Jews and Israel is winning without a contest. Visit the City of David in Jerusalem and see for yourself.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
So Palestine can't be a country because Jordan was an asshole 50 years ago?
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And Egypt and Syria and the Palestinians...

And in the 70's and 80's and 90's and all through the 21st Century.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
How does rejecting one proposed partition plan suddenly make them permanent stateless nomads who deserve no country? They say the deal offered was slanted towards Israelis and wasn't a fair agreement. Why would they sign something they view as unfair?
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Well, you said it was Israel that wants war so I replayed. And when they reject the plan, they started a war in order to wipe the Jews and failed. So don't paint it like they just said politely "no thank". The palestinian shows time and again they don't want peace, and that they don't willing to accept Israel right to exist.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
So Palestine can't be a country because Jordan was an asshole 50 years ago?
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Of course not.
Israel won't accept another terror state tens miles of Tel-Aviv which be exect match of Gaza.
 
NO1 said:
Here what i wrote on this subject-
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I would be interested as to how inclusive that is.

Can Palestinian Muslims visit their holy sites in Israel?

Iranians?
 
Bodhisattva said:
If you haven't even been there how can you know?
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I didn't follow your logic, if Germeny will open too an embassy in Jerusalem, I will think it's a good start, even though I never been there.
Anyway, that is a positive tendency.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Paraguay is a leader in global politics...
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A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.

Next conservative government we have in Canada and we’re going too.


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Phys251 said:
They want more war.
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Actually, they want less and know the way to get less is to force the Palestinians to compromise by using sticks rather than an endless stream of carrots.

You may disagree, but you’d be wrong...


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Bodhisattva said:
Nah... they were content to share initially. It was the Palestinians and Arabs that refused to play nicely.
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Yeah, and for rejecting peace and independence and then blowing up hundreds of civilians on purpose and dancing in the streets every time they murdered another one.


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Unitedwestand13 said:
And the Palestinians have been fighting to right the wrong that occurred to them 70 years ago.
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You mean Israel’s existence? We know, but thanks for being honest about it...


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Unitedwestand13 said:
There are two things that would be of interest to Palestine: the right of return and East juresalem.
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Ok so they can’t have them. What now?




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RabidAlpaca said:
The Palestinians say because the other terms of the deal were terribly slanted towards Israel, is that so hard to believe? You seriously are sitting there with a straight face and pretending the Palestinians simply did not want to become a country? If the deal had been heavily in favor of Palestine and involved Israelis making major concessions on land, they wouldn't have signed it either, yet we still would recognize their existence as a country.



How does rejecting one proposed partition plan suddenly make them permanent stateless nomads who deserve no country? They say the deal offered was slanted towards Israelis and wasn't a fair agreement. Why would they sign something they view as unfair?
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They have rejected ALL plans that do not involve the right to control Israel. Because they don’t want independence, they want Israel.


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RabidAlpaca said:
So Palestine can't be a country because Jordan was an asshole 50 years ago?
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No, because the Palestinians are assholes today, continually declare their intention to continue to be assholes, and focus all their efforts on educating their children to be bigger, more dangerous assholes.


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Yes, Guatemala and Paraguay have followed the US lead.

Honduras, Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Nauru, Palau and Togo may also follow as they were the other Countries who also voted against the UN motion to resolve the Holy City dispute through “negotiations in line with relevant UN resolutions”.
 
Serenity said:
Yes, Guatemala and Paraguay have followed the US lead.

Honduras, Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Nauru, Palau and Togo may also follow as they were the other Countries who also voted against the UN motion to resolve the Holy City dispute through “negotiations in line with relevant UN resolutions”.
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All of this is good. Even if western people firmly support the two state solution with the Palestinians kicking Jews out of their holy places in Jerusalem, they generally also don’t support throwing the Jews out of West Jerusalem too. So moving embassies there does nothing more than recognizing Israel is there and its capital is in Jerusalem.


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I get the distinct impression that many will just automatically be against anything that Israel is for.
 
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