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Trump touts Prospects for great mideast peace deal[W:89]

TheDemSocialist said:
"Consequently, the PLO undertakes to submit to the Palestinian National Council for formal approval the necessary changes in regard to the Palestinian Covenant."
http://www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/foreignpo... recognition - exchange of letters betwe.aspx

And then you will find the amendments here:
"On April 24, 1996, the Palestinian National Council, convening in Gaza, voted 504 to 54, with 14 abstentions, as follows:

"The Palestinian National Charter is hereby amended by canceling the articles that are contrary to the letters exchanged between the P.L.O. and the Government of Israel 9-10 September 1993.
Assigns its legal committee with the task of redrafting the Palestinian National Charter in order to present it to the first session of the Palestinian central council." (24/04/96)
On December 14, 1998, the Palestinian National Council, in accordance with the Wye Memorandum, convened in Gaza in the presence of U.S. President Clinton and voted to reaffirm this decision." https://web.archive.org/web/20060106001731/http://www.state.gov/p/nea/rls/22573.htm

And in 1998 the Palestinian National Council accepted it. Hell Clinton was there and then Israel accepted it as well:
"With President Clinton as their witness, hundreds of former Palestinian guerrilla fighters voted here today to rid their organization's charter of any clauses calling for the destruction of Israel, knocking down a critical roadblock on the rutted path to peace. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel said he accepted the vote, a show of hands before a worldwide television audience, as ''a real change, a very positive change." CLINTON IN THE MIDEAST: THE OVERVIEW; Clinton Watches as Palestinians Drop Call for Israel's Destruction - The New York Times
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There really is a disconnect between what you want to believe and what has actually happened

https://www.algemeiner.com/2013/08/2...s-destruction/

""'Contrary to belief in some quarters, the Charter has never been amended and in fact, fealty to “armed struggle” (i.e., terrorism) was reasserted as late as 2011..."



The PLO Charter Amendment That Never Was

The PLO Charter Amendment That Never Was - Israel National News
The PLO Charter Amendment That Never Was
They seem to have fooled the world. If you read this, they will not have fooled you anymore.
 
Conservative said:
You really have no understanding of radical Islam or the desire for a worldwide Caliphate. When you figure it out hope it isn't too late. The Palestinian needs?? You have to be kidding, how about their need to love their kids more than hating Israel? how about stop strapping bombs on their backs to blow up innocent people? Why would any Administration support a group of people whose charter calls for the total elimination of Israel?
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It's as incorrect to assume that all Palestinians are radical extremists as it to assume that all Jews are radical extremists.

Stereotyping groups based on their extremists just fosters division and conflict, as we see in US politics (as demonstrated in many DP discussions).

The similarities between religious and political ideology are striking, so I guess it's no surprise that the two are entangled.
 
Conservative said:
While the left is taking victory laps over insignificant things like the overturn of the 90 TEMPORARY BAN, the possible defeat of the Labor nominee, and other foolish attacks on Trump, the Flynn resignation, he is doing his job promoting job and economic growth while rebuilding our relationship with our true allies like Israel.
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I'm sorry....I must have missed the announcement where he indicated that he was going to stop being a hypocrite and that he and Ivanka are going to put their money where their big mouths are and start manufacturing their products in America, recognizing the important of American manufacturing jobs and the greatness of the American worker. Con....please direct me to that article, I would love to read it.
 
LessBiased? said:
It's as incorrect to assume that all Palestinians are radical extremists as it to assume that all Jews are radical extremists.

Stereotyping groups based on their extremists just fosters division and conflict, as we see in US politics (as demonstrated in many DP discussions).

The similarities between religious and political ideology are striking, so I guess it's no surprise that the two are entangled.
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Stop diverting. When was the Charter amended and where is the current one

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disneydude said:
I'm sorry....I must have missed the announcement where he indicated that he was going to stop being a hypocrite and that he and Ivanka are going to put their money where their big mouths are and start manufacturing their products in America, recognizing the important of American manufacturing jobs and the greatness of the American worker. Con....please direct me to that article, I would love to read it.
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I'm sorry but would you please explain to me what that has to do with the thread topic? All I see from you is Trump derangement syndrome and trying to divert from the thread

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Conservative said:
I'm sorry but would you please explain to me what that has to do with the thread topic? All I see from you is Trump derangement syndrome and trying to divert from the thread

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Just responding directly to your post
Conservative said:
he is doing his job promoting job and economic growth
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So....are you saying that your post had nothing to do with the thread topic? Doh!
 
disneydude said:
Just responding directly to your post


So....are you saying that your post had nothing to do with the thread topic? Doh!
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that is exactly what national security does as well as tax cuts and regulation reforms. Seen the stock market lately? Think the business world isn't pumped? what Ivanka does with her line has zero impact on the market place but just another attack on Trump. It is going to be a long four years for you. Maybe you can accelerate California's secession from the nation so that the main body of the state can secede as well like W. Va.
 
Conservative said:
There really is a disconnect between what you want to believe and what has actually happened

https://www.algemeiner.com/2013/08/2...s-destruction/

""'Contrary to belief in some quarters, the Charter has never been amended and in fact, fealty to “armed struggle” (i.e., terrorism) was reasserted as late as 2011..."



The PLO Charter Amendment That Never Was

The PLO Charter Amendment That Never Was - Israel National News
The PLO Charter Amendment That Never Was
They seem to have fooled the world. If you read this, they will not have fooled you anymore.
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:lamo Oh yes. So none of these events never happened? They are just something "I want to believe"? Even though they are reported on.... Strange...

Here is the official Palestinian National Charter from the Palestinian National Authority's website: https://web.archive.org/web/20060404142541/http://www.pna.gov.ps/Government/gov/plo_Charter.asp

"Amendments

In a letter to Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin, Yasser Arafat stated that those articles which denied Israel's right to exist or are inconsistent with the PLO's new commitments to Israel following their mutual reognition, were no longer valid (see Oslo peace process).

The PNC met in a special session on 26 April 1996 to consider the issue of amending the Charter and adopted the following decision:

A. The Palestinian National Charter is hereby amended by canceling the articles that are contrary to the letters exchanged the P.L.O. and the Government of Israel 9-10 September 1993."

The decision was adopted by a vote of: 504 in favor, 54 against, and 14 abstentions.

On January 1998, Yasser Arafat sent a letter to US President, Bill Clinton, outlining the implications of this decision in terms of the specific articles of the Charter that were nullified or amended as a result of that decision. In December 1998, both the PLO Executive Committee and the PLO Central Council reaffirmed this decision"
 
Conservative said:
that is exactly what national security does as well as tax cuts and regulation reforms. Seen the stock market lately? Think the business world isn't pumped? what Ivanka does with her line has zero impact on the market place but just another attack on Trump. It is going to be a long four years for you. Maybe you can accelerate California's secession from the nation so that the main body of the state can secede as well like W. Va.
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The stock market soared under Obama....what's your point? Hypocrisy doesn't matter in your book is that your point?
 
TheDemSocialist said:
:lamo Oh yes. So none of these events never happened? They are just something "I want to believe"? Even though they are reported on.... Strange...

Here is the official Palestinian National Charter from the Palestinian National Authority's website: https://web.archive.org/web/20060404142541/http://www.pna.gov.ps/Government/gov/plo_Charter.asp

"Amendments

In a letter to Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin, Yasser Arafat stated that those articles which denied Israel's right to exist or are inconsistent with the PLO's new commitments to Israel following their mutual reognition, were no longer valid (see Oslo peace process).

The PNC met in a special session on 26 April 1996 to consider the issue of amending the Charter and adopted the following decision:

A. The Palestinian National Charter is hereby amended by canceling the articles that are contrary to the letters exchanged the P.L.O. and the Government of Israel 9-10 September 1993."

The decision was adopted by a vote of: 504 in favor, 54 against, and 14 abstentions.

On January 1998, Yasser Arafat sent a letter to US President, Bill Clinton, outlining the implications of this decision in terms of the specific articles of the Charter that were nullified or amended as a result of that decision. In December 1998, both the PLO Executive Committee and the PLO Central Council reaffirmed this decision"
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Then you better take it up with Hamas who apparently you don't believe is part of the Peace Process for without Hamas and Iran how can Israel ever live in peace and who controls the PLO?

From the same article, stop reading what you want to read and read the entire article

Despite President Clinton's optimism, the events of 1998 did not entirely resolve the controversy of the Charter. A June 1999 report by the Palestinian Authority's Ministry of Information on the status of the Charter made no mention of the 1998 events and leading Palestinians continue to state that the Charter has not yet been amended.[citation needed]

In 2001 the first draft of a constitution authorized by the PLO's Central Committee, calling for a respect for borders, human and civil rights as defined under international law appeared.[18]

Regarding PLO reform[edit]

In March 2005 representatives of 13 Palestinian factions, including Fatah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, PFLP and DFLP,[19] adopted a 6 paragraph declaration known as the "Cairo Declaration".[20][21] The declaration envisions a reform of the PLO to include all the Palestinian powers and factions.[21]
In order to implement these reforms it was decided to form a committee made up of the PNC Chairman, the members of the Executive Committee, the secretaries general of all Palestinian factions and independent national personalities.[21] The PLO-EC Chairman is tasked to convene this committee.[21]
In the subsequent years, the agreement was several times reconfirmed, but as of 2015 there have not been taken concrete steps.
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disneydude said:
The stock market soared under Obama....what's your point? Hypocrisy doesn't matter in your book is that your point?
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It is now approaching 21,000 and when did that upswing start? Interesting how the people disagree with you but then again you only get leftwing news. Obama lost the Congress i 2014-2016 and the Democrats lost the WH. That tells you all you should need to know about the Obama record and legacy. When are you seceding again?
 
Conservative said:
It is now approaching 21,000 and when did that upswing start? Interesting how the people disagree with you but then again you only get leftwing news. Obama lost the Congress i 2014-2016 and the Democrats lost the WH. That tells you all you should need to know about the Obama record and legacy. When are you seceding again?
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LOL.....about 8 years ago Con (Funny how your selective perspective doesn't allow you to see that). True to form...I suspect soon that you will be arguing that the Dow was at zero and heading downward on the day before Trump took office. Doh!

Trump Inauguration: Stocks Had a Great Run Under President Obama | Fortune.com
 
Conservative said:
It is now approaching 21,000 and when did that upswing start? Interesting how the people disagree with you but then again you only get leftwing news. Obama lost the Congress i 2014-2016 and the Democrats lost the WH. That tells you all you should need to know about the Obama record and legacy. When are you seceding again?
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https://www.google.com/#q=dow+jones

Just to show further how ridiculous your claims are....take a look at what the dow has been doing over the last year and the last 5 years. I suspect that you won't come back and admit how foolish the post was.
 
disneydude said:
LOL.....about 8 years ago Con (Funny how your selective perspective doesn't allow you to see that). True to form...I suspect soon that you will be arguing that the Dow was at zero and heading downward on the day before Trump took office. Doh!

Trump Inauguration: Stocks Had a Great Run Under President Obama | Fortune.com
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Great run? congratulations, is approaching 21,000 higher or lower than 17,000 and as for a great run, what happened in 2010, again in 2012 and then 2014-2016. Very short and selective memory. Interesting how the debt ridden state of California recognizes the Obama accomplishments more than the general electorate but that isn't surprising at all. When are you seceding again?
 
disneydude said:
https://www.google.com/#q=dow+jones

Just to show further how ridiculous your claims are....take a look at what the dow has been doing over the last year and the last 5 years. I suspect that you won't come back and admit how foolish the post was.
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Oh, I will be here as I don't give a lot of credibility to anyone from debt ridden California and put my faith in the total electorate. Stagnant GDP never exceeding an annual 3%, 9.4 trillion added to the debt making it 20 trillion, 6 million part time employees for economic reasons and a 9.4% U-6 rate when the pre recession number was 8.4 is why you lost the election
 
Conservative said:
Oh, I will be here as I don't give a lot of credibility to anyone from debt ridden California and put my faith in the total electorate. Stagnant GDP never exceeding an annual 3%, 9.4 trillion added to the debt making it 20 trillion, 6 million part time employees for economic reasons and a 9.4% U-6 rate when the pre recession number was 8.4 is why you lost the election
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LOL....love you attempts to deflect without addressing the graph. Typical con. So why do you continue to argue that the Dow was at zero and heading downward sharply on the day before Trump was elected? SMH.......while laughing.
 
Conservative said:
Oh, I will be here as I don't give a lot of credibility to anyone from debt ridden California and put my faith in the total electorate. Stagnant GDP never exceeding an annual 3%, 9.4 trillion added to the debt making it 20 trillion, 6 million part time employees for economic reasons and a 9.4% U-6 rate when the pre recession number was 8.4 is why you lost the election
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Here's another one for you Con:

Dow Jones - 10 Year Daily Chart | MacroTrends


This shows the DOW over the last 10 years. Look at where we were headed under your hero (you know...the one that you call an economic genius)....and where we went after Obama took office. Doh! Of course.....you'll ignore the results as you always do. We expect nothing more from you.
 
disneydude said:
Here's another one for you Con:

Dow Jones - 10 Year Daily Chart | MacroTrends


This shows the DOW over the last 10 years. Look at where we were headed under your hero (you know...the one that you call an economic genius)....and where we went after Obama took office. Doh! Of course.....you'll ignore the results as you always do. We expect nothing more from you.
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Bush and the country paid a price when he lost the 2006 Congressional elections and the WH in 2008 putting the Democrats in charge. Looks like history repeating itself as the Obama economic policies got the boot. I know civics isn't taught on the left coast but civics tells me that Democrats controlled the budget and the legislative process from January 1, 2007 to January 1, 2011 which is why you want to blame solely Bush, you never took civics
 
Conservative said:
Bush and the country paid a price when he lost the 2006 Congressional elections and the WH in 2008 putting the Democrats in charge. Looks like history repeating itself as the Obama economic policies got the boot. I know civics isn't taught on the left coast but civics tells me that Democrats controlled the budget and the legislative process from January 1, 2007 to January 1, 2011 which is why you want to blame solely Bush, you never took civics
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You are almost as good with the alternative facts as kellyanne conjob. Why don't you address the facts con? All you can do is spin and deflect because the facts are clobbering you. Too funny.
 
disneydude said:
LOL....since you are once again getting clobbered with the facts...I see you are in your shuffle and spin/deflect mode. What is it about the facts that scare conservatives so much con?
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Here are the facts that you want to ignore, President Donald Trump elected November 2016, Republicans take the Congress November 2016. It must be hard for you to be in the minority as you are unable to accept defeat
 
disneydude said:
You are almost as good with the alternative facts as kellyanne conjob. Why don't you address the facts con? All you can do is spin and deflect because the facts are clobbering you. Too funny.
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Then you shouldn't have any problem telling me what it is in post 147 that is wrong and alternative facts? Is it President Hillary today with a Democratic Congress?
 
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