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"Israel forgets Pakistan is a Nuclear state too." Pakistani Defence Minister

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The Defence Minister of Pakistan has issued a reminder to Israel of his country's nuclear capability, in apparent response to a false news story.
Khawaja Muhammad Asif said in a tweet: "Israeli [Defence Minister] threatens nuclear retaliation presuming [Pakistani] role in Syria against Daesh. Israel forgets Pakistan is a Nuclear state too." Link.

Not directly related to Israel Palestine but better to play safe creating any thread regarding Israel: Pakistan itself isn't threatening Israel but the Pakistani Defence Minister seems to be getting his news from a viral website and responded to a fake story by issuing a warning if Israel was prepared to nuke Pakistani forces in Syria should they "by misfortune ~ arrive in Syria... we will destroy them with a nuclear attack." (The faked words alleged to be spoken by Moshe Yaalon who actually isn't in government anyway.

It's not just the alt right that lives in a post factual world by the look of it but it seems nearly everyone with nukes is itching to show each other they are prepared to use them or grow their forces yet again.
 
Not directly related to Israel Palestine but better to play safe creating any thread regarding Israel: Pakistan itself isn't threatening Israel but the Pakistani Defence Minister seems to be getting his news from a viral website and responded to a fake story by issuing a warning if Israel was prepared to nuke Pakistani forces in Syria should they "by misfortune ~ arrive in Syria... we will destroy them with a nuclear attack." (The faked words alleged to be spoken by Moshe Yaalon who actually isn't in government anyway.

It's not just the alt right that lives in a post factual world by the look of it but it seems nearly everyone with nukes is itching to show each other they are prepared to use them or grow their forces yet again.

We are living in a world of growing danger, as this incident indicates. Luckily this was easy to defuse, but we will see other cases and one of them will almost certainly go viral.
 
That Pakistani official is a ****ing moron for falling for fake news and threatening another country over it.
He needs to be fired, or worse. Much worse.
 
"Fake news doesn't exist."

"Fake news isn't a real issue."

Says people in a world where crackpots like Alex Jones command the attention of hundreds of thousands of misinformed conspiratards.
 
i wonder how they obtained the nukes?
 
That Pakistani official is a ****ing moron for falling for fake news and threatening another country over it.
He needs to be fired, or worse. Much worse.

Good thing American officials are too smart to fall for fake news, eh?
 
Not directly related to Israel Palestine but better to play safe creating any thread regarding Israel: Pakistan itself isn't threatening Israel but the Pakistani Defence Minister seems to be getting his news from a viral website and responded to a fake story by issuing a warning if Israel was prepared to nuke Pakistani forces in Syria should they "by misfortune ~ arrive in Syria... we will destroy them with a nuclear attack." (The faked words alleged to be spoken by Moshe Yaalon who actually isn't in government anyway.

It's not just the alt right that lives in a post factual world by the look of it but it seems nearly everyone with nukes is itching to show each other they are prepared to use them or grow their forces yet again.

Well at least the fake story didn't say Israel already nuked Pakistan, got to wonder if he'd actually have pressed the button.
 
That Pakistani official is a ****ing moron for falling for fake news and threatening another country over it.
He needs to be fired, or worse. Much worse.

As jog said before, this is something that will happen more and more often as more and more "post fact" people get into power.
 
As jog said before, this is something that will happen more and more often as more and more "post fact" people get into power.
One of the main reasons that those, I am guessing, you are calling the post fact folk are rising into new power positions is that the public has finally caught onto the fact that the old post fact folk are no longer to be trusted. So people are frantically searching for truth having thrown the old liars in the waste bin.

Whose fault is that?
 
~ So people are frantically searching for truth ~

Not really, one article I read suggested that post fact people looked for articles that reiterated their world view rather than questioned it or made them think.
 
Not really, one article I read suggested that post fact people looked for articles that reiterated their world view rather than questioned it or made them think.
Why not provide that "article" and let us have a look see if the folks that provided that viewpoint are questioning the old liars and not just confirming what people who are reading those styled articles already think?
 
~ the old liars ~

The quoted bit is only relevant to the US where Clinton provided a good target. The post fact people who voted Brexit believed lies about £350,000 currently paid to the EU would be spent on our universal healthcare. Soon as the vote was won, the Brexit camp rowed back on many of the lies they sold to the public.

WRT that, I see Ms Clinton is not going to be prosecuted so really, you don't need any "article" to see that people don't really care about facts and are more interested in campaign rhetoric and hyperbole. I don't expect that to satisfy you as I suspect you may already have views that you simply wish to see reiterated by your favourite news sources.
 
The quoted bit is only relevant to the US where Clinton provided a good target. The post fact people who voted Brexit believed lies about £350,000 currently paid to the EU would be spent on our universal healthcare. Soon as the vote was won, the Brexit camp rowed back on many of the lies they sold to the public.

WRT that, I see Ms Clinton is not going to be prosecuted so really, you don't need any "article" to see that people don't really care about facts and are more interested in campaign rhetoric and hyperbole. I don't expect that to satisfy you as I suspect you may already have views that you simply wish to see reiterated by your favourite news sources.
Oh, contrary to what you want us to believe, I think you are reading articles that confirm your own bias.

Though it is hardly my area of expertise, I rather doubt that the L350,000, which seems a piddling amount to say the least, was the reason people did or did not vote to exit the EU. People worldwide are getting fed up with the cumulative lies of centralized government types, not just in the EU, and with their political corporate media right arms trying to load us all up with their lies... or of consciously omitting to give us the truth. Constantly.

I try to get a smattering of news sources, but will admit that, having been indoctrinated leftward at university and afterward growing more conscious in the real world, I have tended towards those more often telling me what I perceive as the real truth rather than the ones, almost all mainstream media here in the states, who are almost always lying, or omitting the story or proper details of the story, on especially the most important topics.

I can specifically remember being put up in a nice hotel with cable showing CSPAN in Palm Beach by the Trust Company I was working at the time. The company was transferring me from Sarasota, West Coast Florida, over to the East Coast. At the time the Iran Contra hearings were going on and, as I hadn't many contacts in the area and time on my hands, I watched with fascination for hours those hearings over several days. CSPAN had cameras on but no commentary. But I would read the next day in the hotel provided Palm Beach Post the national news accounts of what had gone on the day proceeding... and I am like, where are they getting this stuff? It is then that I began paying a lot closer attention to what the news folks were trying to tell me/sell me and, though it took a considerable amount of time, I simply went cold turkey, quit watching any TV at all, cut my cable in 2004.

Now I search online and whatever the search engine, and I vary using a couple, brings up, I try to pick a couple, say one from CNN, another from NBC or Fox or WSJ or Forbes or BBC or whatever, read them to get a feel for the truth and which ones I feel are feeding me a line of bull.

Its like panning for gold, sometimes you strike it rich, other times it is a ton of fools gold. In the recent election I could most certainly get a feel that the media in the US was getting almost desperate, was lying about the supposed almost certain Clinton victory that was upon us. A news and political junkie of sorts, having degrees in History and Political Science, putting as many of the factors eclectically together, I got the distinct impression that the media and Clinton were truly getting frantic and so felt Trump must have them really scared... and how could that be with all the polls saying almost the exact opposite. Similar to Brexit, and ultimate being so wrong.

Brexit taught us many things, a watershed that was a kind of inspirational rebuke of the left and its penchant for wanting us all to just fall in line. People, deep down as well as on the surface, messy or not like to control their own lives, doesn't the left get that yet?
 
Not directly related to Israel Palestine but better to play safe creating any thread regarding Israel: Pakistan itself isn't threatening Israel but the Pakistani Defence Minister seems to be getting his news from a viral website and responded to a fake story by issuing a warning if Israel was prepared to nuke Pakistani forces in Syria should they "by misfortune ~ arrive in Syria... we will destroy them with a nuclear attack." (The faked words alleged to be spoken by Moshe Yaalon who actually isn't in government anyway.

It's not just the alt right that lives in a post factual world by the look of it but it seems nearly everyone with nukes is itching to show each other they are prepared to use them or grow their forces yet again.

The problem imo is that there has been a huge increase in tension wrt countries seeking to be unmolested /remain independent since the redeclaration of a US war on terror. ( WOT ) A few countries have been completely destroyed and people with nukes are just letting other people know they have them and are prepared to use them due to the climate of fear the WOT has created
 
Not directly related to Israel Palestine but better to play safe creating any thread regarding Israel: Pakistan itself isn't threatening Israel but the Pakistani Defence Minister seems to be getting his news from a viral website and responded to a fake story by issuing a warning if Israel was prepared to nuke Pakistani forces in Syria should they "by misfortune ~ arrive in Syria... we will destroy them with a nuclear attack." (The faked words alleged to be spoken by Moshe Yaalon who actually isn't in government anyway.

It's not just the alt right that lives in a post factual world by the look of it but it seems nearly everyone with nukes is itching to show each other they are prepared to use them or grow their forces yet again.
Somewhat off-topic, but it's disappointing to me that the India-Pakistan rivalry doesn't get nearly the amount of coverage or attention it deserves. Any nuclear war would most likely be between those two countries, not between the US and Russia or China, and since nukes haven't served as a deterrent to conventional conflict in the region open war could restart at any moment.
The problem imo is that there has been a huge increase in tension wrt countries seeking to be unmolested /remain independent since the redeclaration of a US war on terror. ( WOT ) A few countries have been completely destroyed and people with nukes are just letting other people know they have them and are prepared to use them due to the climate of fear the WOT has created

Pakistan's nuclear policy has pretty much nothing to do with the War on Terror. It's good to keep in mind that, in terms of grand strategy considerations, terrorism is relatively unimportant.
 
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