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Kurt Volker resigned from his position as the U.S. Special Envoy for Ukraine Friday

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The rats are scurrying off the sinking ship...


McCain Institute head Kurt Volker steps down as US diplomat - The State Press

By Andrew Howard | 41 minutes ago

Executive Director of the McCain Institute Kurt Volker resigned from his position as the U.S. Special Envoy for Ukraine Friday, following reports he collaborated with Ukraine and President Donald Trump.

An ASU official confirmed Volker's resignation Friday, and said the University could not speak about his future at ASU because the University does not comment on personnel matters.

Volker met with U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo Friday to announce he would be resigning, the official said.

Volker’s name was mentioned in the recent whistleblower complaint, which has sparked an impeachment inquiry for Trump. Trump has defended his actions, including a phone call with Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky where Trump requested dirt on former Vice President Joe Biden.

The complaint details that Trump told his staff to cut aid to Ukraine unless they helped find information on presidential candidate Biden's son, Hunter Biden.

According to the complaint, Volker helped organize meetings with Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani and Ukrainian officials.

The complaint also alleges that Volker went to Kiev, the capital of Ukraine, to help guide Ukraine officials on how to handle Trumps’s demands.
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"The complaint details that Trump told his staff to cut aid to Ukraine unless they helped find information on presidential candidate Biden's son, Hunter Biden."


The complaint is all net.


Ben Shapiro
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@benshapiro
· Sep 26, 2019
Replying to @benshapiro
Next, the New York Times reported this just three days ago:

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Ben Shapiro
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@benshapiro
This confirms the whistleblower report. Again, if the Ukrainians didn’t know that Trump was threatening aid, with what, precisely was he threatening them? More importantly, why haven’t the media been focusing on this angle? (I think we know the answer.)

Shapiro: Democrats’ ‘Quid Pro Quo’ Claim Against Trump Is Weak; Here’s Why | The Daily Wire

We can only speculate as to why Volkner stepped down, but I heard through grapevine... (repeat third hand hearsay).. that it was because he's skeeeeeeered.
 
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trixare4kids said:
"The complaint details that Trump told his staff to cut aid to Ukraine unless they helped find information on presidential candidate Biden's son, Hunter Biden."


The complaint is all net.


Ben Shapiro
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@benshapiro
· Sep 26, 2019
Replying to @benshapiro
Next, the New York Times reported this just three days ago:

EFbEEogUcAAKUAY


Ben Shapiro
✔
@benshapiro
This confirms the whistleblower report. Again, if the Ukrainians didn’t know that Trump was threatening aid, with what, precisely was he threatening them? More importantly, why haven’t the media been focusing on this angle? (I think we know the answer.)

Shapiro: Democrats’ ‘Quid Pro Quo’ Claim Against Trump Is Weak; Here’s Why | The Daily Wire
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Weak tea? That guy calls the quit pro quo allegations 'weak tea' and then cites on Twitter unnamed Ukranian officials and Ukranian advisors to back himself up.
Nothingburger.
 
Jettison the cargo! Was that enough to help us escape?? But really, I don't know much about the guy. Was he helping to protect them from Trump, or helping Trump?
 
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trixare4kids said:
"The complaint details that Trump told his staff to cut aid to Ukraine unless they helped find information on presidential candidate Biden's son, Hunter Biden."


The complaint is all net.


Ben Shapiro
✔
@benshapiro
· Sep 26, 2019
Replying to @benshapiro
Next, the New York Times reported this just three days ago:

EFbEEogUcAAKUAY


Ben Shapiro
✔
@benshapiro
This confirms the whistleblower report. Again, if the Ukrainians didn’t know that Trump was threatening aid, with what, precisely was he threatening them? More importantly, why haven’t the media been focusing on this angle? (I think we know the answer.)

Shapiro: Democrats’ ‘Quid Pro Quo’ Claim Against Trump Is Weak; Here’s Why | The Daily Wire

We can only speculate as to why Volkner stepped down, but I heard through grapevine... (repeat third hand hearsay).. that it was because he's skeeeeeeered.
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Ben Shapiro :roll: yeah, now there's a credible source. :lamo
 
trixare4kids said:
"The complaint details that Trump told his staff to cut aid to Ukraine unless they helped find information on presidential candidate Biden's son, Hunter Biden."


The complaint is all net.


Ben Shapiro
✔
@benshapiro
· Sep 26, 2019
Replying to @benshapiro
Next, the New York Times reported this just three days ago:

EFbEEogUcAAKUAY


Ben Shapiro
✔
@benshapiro
This confirms the whistleblower report. Again, if the Ukrainians didn’t know that Trump was threatening aid, with what, precisely was he threatening them? More importantly, why haven’t the media been focusing on this angle? (I think we know the answer.)

Shapiro: Democrats’ ‘Quid Pro Quo’ Claim Against Trump Is Weak; Here’s Why | The Daily Wire

We can only speculate as to why Volkner stepped down, but I heard through grapevine... (repeat third hand hearsay).. that it was because he's skeeeeeeered.
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Ben Shapiro :lamo
 
Mach said:
Jettison the cargo! Was that enough to help us escape?? But really, I don't know much about the guy. Was he helping to protect them from Trump, or helping Trump?
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How many people will fall on a sword?
 
During a trip by Volker and Sondland to Ukraine the day after the July 25 call, the whistleblower said the ambassadors tried to advise Ukrainian leadership “about how to ‘navigate’ the demands” Trump made of Zelensky.
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Trump impeachment crisis deepens as US envoy for Ukraine Kurt Volker resigns after whistleblower names him

Here's what I'd like to know... How would the whistleblower know about the above? Anyone have any answers because I sure don't.

And it's clear that if you have read to the end of the above source, they are throwing Guilliani, Volker and Sondland under the bus. At least, this is my interpretation as to the reason Volker was asked to resign or be fired today.

Read the transcript of Trump's conversation with Volodymyr Zelensky - CNNPolitics
 
trixare4kids said:
"The complaint details that Trump told his staff to cut aid to Ukraine unless they helped find information on presidential candidate Biden's son, Hunter Biden."


The complaint is all net.


Ben Shapiro
✔
@benshapiro
· Sep 26, 2019
Replying to @benshapiro
Next, the New York Times reported this just three days ago:

EFbEEogUcAAKUAY


Ben Shapiro
✔
@benshapiro
This confirms the whistleblower report. Again, if the Ukrainians didn’t know that Trump was threatening aid, with what, precisely was he threatening them? More importantly, why haven’t the media been focusing on this angle? (I think we know the answer.)

Shapiro: Democrats’ ‘Quid Pro Quo’ Claim Against Trump Is Weak; Here’s Why | The Daily Wire

We can only speculate as to why Volkner stepped down, but I heard through grapevine... (repeat third hand hearsay).. that it was because he's skeeeeeeered.
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Wait, does Trump have Ukrainians on his staff?
 
lurchadams said:
Ben Shapiro :lamo
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Of course, I already knew that some would attack the messenger. Some do this when they refuse to listen to another pov that might dilute their confirmation bias.

....Obviously, anti-Trump partisans missed that it was a news article published by The New York Times earlier this week. “A Ukrainian official said Mr. Zelensky’s government did not learn of the delay until about one month after the call,” the Times reported."

Go ahead and laugh at Ken Vogel's analysis.

:coffeepap:
 
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Rexedgar said:
How many people will fall on a sword?
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I suppose he jumped before they pushed, couldn't do his job at that point. I have no clue how any of this is gonna turn out.
I think the impeachment may happen fast after witness and records. I think it will kick off multiple otehr investigations, which could take many months beyond that, assuming we have something at that point that ensures White House fully cooperates to make the matter much, much faster.
 
trixare4kids said:
Of course, I already knew that some would attack the messenger. Some do this when they refuse to listen to another pov that might dilute their confirmation bias.
....Obviously, anti-Trump partisans missed that it was a news article published by The New York Times earlier this week. “A Ukrainian official said Mr. Zelensky’s government did not learn of the delay until about one month after the call,” the Times reported."
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Kind of like how we don't trust your posts either. I mean, Ben Shapiro, why are you reading that trash Trix? Trash in, Trash Out.
You have the ability to read and think for yourself, have some faith in your abilities, its never too late.
 
trixare4kids said:
Of course, I already knew that some would attack the messenger. Some do this when they refuse to listen to another pov that might dilute their confirmation bias.

....Obviously, anti-Trump partisans missed that it was a news article published by The New York Times earlier this week. “A Ukrainian official said Mr. Zelensky’s government did not learn of the delay until about one month after the call,” the Times reported."

Go ahead and laugh at Ken Vogel's analysis.

:coffeepap:
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It would be more credible to quote the Times article directly. Articles about other articles don't always get it right.
 
trixare4kids said:
Of course, I already knew that some would attack the messenger. Some do this when they refuse to listen to another pov that might dilute their confirmation bias.

....Obviously, anti-Trump partisans missed that it was a news article published by The New York Times earlier this week. “A Ukrainian official said Mr. Zelensky’s government did not learn of the delay until about one month after the call,” the Times reported."

Go ahead and laugh at Ken Vogel's analysis.

:coffeepap:
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It's not the pov that is the problem. I hope you know that.
 
trixare4kids said:
Of course, I already knew that some would attack the messenger. Some do this when they refuse to listen to another pov that might dilute their confirmation bias.

....Obviously, anti-Trump partisans missed that it was a news article published by The New York Times earlier this week. “A Ukrainian official said Mr. Zelensky’s government did not learn of the delay until about one month after the call,” the Times reported."

Go ahead and laugh at Ken Vogel's analysis.

:coffeepap:
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Well, when the messenger is a sniveling hack known to lie.... :roll:
 
trixare4kids said:
"The complaint details that Trump told his staff to cut aid to Ukraine unless they helped find information on presidential candidate Biden's son, Hunter Biden."


The complaint is all net.

We can only speculate as to why Volkner stepped down, but I heard through grapevine... (repeat third hand hearsay).. that it was because he's skeeeeeeered.
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Let me quote a real source, the original source -- a Ukraine democratic activist source. This source may indeed be somewhat 'biased' because after all, it is his country he's talking about. It just doesn't get any closer to fact than this.

Ukraine Reacts: Trump’s Call Is Putin’s Victory – Foreign Policy

“We have faced intimidation and manipulation in Ukraine for quite a long time. Now this is happening at the highest possible level of the United States, where the personal lawyer of the president of the United States is carrying out speculation and manipulation,” said Kaleniuk, the executive director of Ukraine’s Anti-Corruption Action Center, a Kyiv-based watchdog group. “Usually the United States [was] the key [ally] of Ukrainian civil society to stop political pressure into law enforcement investigations. But I am reading the transcript where the president of the United States is doing the contrary than what we were encouraged to do.”

The chief beneficiary of this behavior will be the Kremlin, say Ukrainian activists and Western officials involved with Ukraine. They believe Trump is playing into the hands of Russian President Vladimir Putin, who has engaged in a yearslong disinformation war to portray the United States and European Union as weak as a way of laying claim to Crimea and political domination of Ukraine. Trump’s casual comment to Zelensky, during their meeting at the U.N. General Assembly gathering on Wednesday, that “I really hope that you and President Putin can get together and solve your problem” also reinforced the Kremlin line.

“Oh, Putin is loving this. It makes the Americans look unreliable and strengthens the hand of the Russians and the pro-Russians in the east,” said Alex Crowther of the National Defense University. “By withholding aid, you are injecting instability into an already unstable situation and strengthening the Russians.”

Yet, according to Kaleniuk, Biden was not trying to protect his son when he came to Ukraine. He was actually doing the opposite because he was cracking down on corruption and Shokin—who was not investigating Burisma.

'Trixare4kids', will you dare to compare the truth and facts as told by Daria Kaleniuk, a Ukraine democratic anti-corruption activist to a nobody Fox conservative pundit like Ben Shapiro?
 
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Mach said:
Kind of like how we don't trust your posts either. I mean, Ben Shapiro, why are you reading that trash Trix? Trash in, Trash Out.
You have the ability to read and think for yourself, have some faith in your abilities, its never too late.
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Your hyperbole and 'sick' ad homs aside, go ahead and compare and state your legal qualifications as compared to brilliant minded Shapiro's and I might cede your point. Qualifier: Being a better political hack than Shapiro doesn't count.

Shapiro went from Walter Reed Middle School to Yeshiva University High School of Los Angeles where he graduated in 2000 at age 16.[10][5] He graduated summa cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa from the University of California, Los Angeles in 2004, at age 20, with a Bachelor of Arts degree in political science and then cum laude from Harvard Law School in 2007.[11] He then practiced law at Goodwin Procter. As of March 2012 he ran an independent legal consultancy firm, Benjamin Shapiro Legal Consulting, in Los Angeles.
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Ben Shapiro - Wikipedia
 
HumblePi said:

Let me quote a real source, the original source -- a Ukraine democratic activist source. It doesn't get any closer to fact than this.

Ukraine Reacts: Trump’s Call Is Putin’s Victory – Foreign Policy

“We have faced intimidation and manipulation in Ukraine for quite a long time. Now this is happening at the highest possible level of the United States, where the personal lawyer of the president of the United States is carrying out speculation and manipulation,” said Kaleniuk, the executive director of Ukraine’s Anti-Corruption Action Center, a Kyiv-based watchdog group. “Usually the United States [was] the key [ally] of Ukrainian civil society to stop political pressure into law enforcement investigations. But I am reading the transcript where the president of the United States is doing the contrary than what we were encouraged to do.”

The chief beneficiary of this behavior will be the Kremlin, say Ukrainian activists and Western officials involved with Ukraine. They believe Trump is playing into the hands of Russian President Vladimir Putin, who has engaged in a yearslong disinformation war to portray the United States and European Union as weak as a way of laying claim to Crimea and political domination of Ukraine. Trump’s casual comment to Zelensky, during their meeting at the U.N. General Assembly gathering on Wednesday, that “I really hope that you and President Putin can get together and solve your problem” also reinforced the Kremlin line.

“Oh, Putin is loving this. It makes the Americans look unreliable and strengthens the hand of the Russians and the pro-Russians in the east,” said Alex Crowther of the National Defense University. “By withholding aid, you are injecting instability into an already unstable situation and strengthening the Russians.”

Yet, according to Kaleniuk, Biden was not trying to protect his son when he came to Ukraine. He was actually doing the opposite because he was cracking down on corruption and Shokin—who was not investigating Burisma.

'Trixare4kids', will you dare to compare the truth and facts as told by Daria Kaleniuk, a Ukraine democratic anti-corruption activist to a nobody Fox conservative pundit like Ben Shapiro?
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Read my sigline. Your copy and pastes do not negate the truth.
 
trixare4kids said:
Your hyperbole and 'sick' ad homs aside, go ahead and compare and state your legal qualifications as compared to brilliant minded Shapiro's and I might cede your point. Qualifier: Being a better political hack than Shapiro doesn't count.



Ben Shapiro - Wikipedia
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Ben Shapiro - RationalWiki

Benjamin Aaron Shapiro (1984–) is a conservative talker, UCLA- and Harvard-educated lawyer, founder of Truth Revolt (2013-2018) and The Daily Wire (2015-ongoing), catcaller,[note 1] and dogwhistler.[4][5] He is also an insufferable asshole, a pseudointellectual hack, and a terrible author. He is best known for his largely fact-free criticisms of "left-wing" ideas; in particular, he is famous for the phrase facts don't care about your feelings.[6] Of course, Shapiro denies anthropogenic global warming, supports intelligent design, and is religiously Jewish. Shapiro also once stormed off a BBC interview when the interviewer read his quotes back to him.[7] Shapiro's main shtick is to whine about the persecution of straight, white, conservative men by the liberal media and to fear-monger about "coastal elites" liberally indoctrinating[note 2] the unwitting public into communism.

...Shapiro's wife is a doctor. Don't worry, he'll let you know
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trixare4kids said:
Your hyperbole and 'sick' ad homs aside, go ahead and compare and state your legal qualifications as compared to brilliant minded Shapiro's and I might cede your point. Qualifier: Being a better political hack than Shapiro doesn't count.
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I don't know how to reach you (to help you see the light), it's true.
 
trixare4kids said:
Read my sigline. Your copy and pastes do not negate the truth.
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Re your sig line:the Ukrainians weren’t “made aware?” When you are expecting payment, do you know that you haven’t received it. All the more ridiculous since their country is annexed and being fought over every day.

Need some bullets here, massa!
 
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