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    Re: Events that seem to occur in warp speed and forgotten nearly as quickly

    Quote Originally Posted by HumblePi View Post
    The Parkland high school massacre!

    The Las Vegas massacre!

    El Paso massacre!

    Caravans of illegals coming to kill all of us!


    Amazon rainforests burning up, there goes the environment!!


    Does anyone still remember when we weren't stressed out every day over what's happening in politics? I sure don't. But what's happening with the new gun legislation that every politician was committed to pass? What happened with the immigrant children with no combs or toothbrushes. When was the last time we heard anything positive about saving the environment for our children? Can we have two days in a row when the stock market doesn't fluctuate wildly?

    Why is it that every day there's another crisis over trade, the economy, guns, N. Korea, Iran, etcetera? Will we ever be able to go back to being stable and not having to be concerned about anyone or anything more than our jobs and family? Will we forever be worried about losing our health care or Medicare?

    This is all becoming overwhelming.
    This is called 24/7 news cycles, in days past only the biggest news was mentioned nationwide, and had to be put together in a nightly news report with other news. Many people are not even aware of how often in the past the us nato and the soviet union came withing the absolute brink of either nuclear war or all out war only to be avoided last second.

    You can simply put it as ignorance is bliss, much of what we see today has always happened, just without constant media attention and people can not stress or fear about what they do not know.
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    Re: Events that seem to occur in warp speed and forgotten nearly as quickly

    Quote Originally Posted by HumblePi View Post
    So all those things shouldn't have been reported? Should they only report on nice, flowery things? Isn't bad news part and parcel of the news itself?
    So you gripe about there being so much doom and gloom in the media, but when given the reason, you find a way to support more doom and gloom?

    Maybe your point wasn't concern about this reporting, but your belief it is a sign of actual reality. That our lives are effectively burdened by actual, constant, unrelenting "bad" and we need to find a way to "fix it?"

    In REALITY there are MANY good things happening. The bad things we keep getting hit with are newsworthy because they are not "pervasive and all-encompassing."

    Like the "mass shooting" melodramas. The extreme fanatics doing political mass shooting really are fairly rare. They get lumped in with gang and family "mass shootings" to seem more prevalent. Yet even those totals are less than drowning deaths, OR motor-vehicle deaths, OR suicides to name just a few.

    You are being manipulated into "panic mode" and yet you don't blame the sources stoking your fears, you approve and support them. This maybe because you think it supports your own narratives? Is that it?

    Well then, you must forgive me for misunderstanding your complaint. I took it as concern for how much misery and violence is being trumpeted in the media, and I explained why it is so.

    Next time I'll endeavor to recall that is NOT your real concern. :
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    Re: Events that seem to occur in warp speed and forgotten nearly as quickly

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    When you abandon God and replace him with the religion of secular politics (the most apocalyptic faith ever invented it seems) it is no surprise you’re so stressed out over meaningless political issues
    EMNofSeattle:

    Yes, nothing says peace of mind like inquisitions, witch burnings, martyrdom, pondering hell, wars of religion or wholesale divine retribution while lecherous priests eye your children with lascivious gazes. Oh for the security of religion and the comfort of blind faith. Just ask the folks of Magdeburg c. 1631. They were very relaxed.

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    Re: Events that seem to occur in warp speed and forgotten nearly as quickly

    Quote Originally Posted by HumblePi View Post
    The Parkland high school massacre!

    The Las Vegas massacre!

    El Paso massacre!

    Caravans of illegals coming to kill all of us!


    Amazon rainforests burning up, there goes the environment!!


    Does anyone still remember when we weren't stressed out every day over what's happening in politics? I sure don't. But what's happening with the new gun legislation that every politician was committed to pass? What happened with the immigrant children with no combs or toothbrushes. When was the last time we heard anything positive about saving the environment for our children? Can we have two days in a row when the stock market doesn't fluctuate wildly?

    Why is it that every day there's another crisis over trade, the economy, guns, N. Korea, Iran, etcetera? Will we ever be able to go back to being stable and not having to be concerned about anyone or anything more than our jobs and family? Will we forever be worried about losing our health care or Medicare?

    This is all becoming overwhelming.
    Humble Pi:

    Then run for office and begin to make the changes needed to restore the collective memory of the American electorate. You are a tutor, yes? Now teach a nation how to pay attention. Become the change you want to see.

    Cheers.
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    Re: Events that seem to occur in warp speed and forgotten nearly as quickly

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    So you gripe about there being so much doom and gloom in the media, but when given the reason, you find a way to support more doom and gloom?

    Maybe your point wasn't concern about this reporting, but your belief it is a sign of actual reality. That our lives are effectively burdened by actual, constant, unrelenting "bad" and we need to find a way to "fix it?"

    In REALITY there are MANY good things happening. The bad things we keep getting hit with are newsworthy because they are not "pervasive and all-encompassing."

    Like the "mass shooting" melodramas. The extreme fanatics doing political mass shooting really are fairly rare. They get lumped in with gang and family "mass shootings" to seem more prevalent. Yet even those totals are less than drowning deaths, OR motor-vehicle deaths, OR suicides to name just a few.

    You are being manipulated into "panic mode" and yet you don't blame the sources stoking your fears, you approve and support them. This maybe because you think it supports your own narratives? Is that it?

    Well then, you must forgive me for misunderstanding your complaint. I took it as concern for how much misery and violence is being trumpeted in the media, and I explained why it is so.

    Next time I'll endeavor to recall that is NOT your real concern. :
    The point is, there was never any resolution to ANY of them to date, even going back to Parkland. What was done? Nothing.










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    Re: Events that seem to occur in warp speed and forgotten nearly as quickly

    Quote Originally Posted by Evilroddy View Post
    EMNofSeattle:

    Yes, nothing says peace of mind like inquisitions, witch burnings, martyrdom, pondering hell, wars of religion or wholesale divine retribution while lecherous priests eye your children with lascivious gazes. Oh for the security of religion and the comfort of blind faith. Just ask the folks of Magdeburg c. 1631. They were very relaxed.

    Cheers.
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    Non religious govt's have usually been the best, in the past non religious govt's even in the most religious of countries have managed to balance out appeasing the religious majority while protecting the rights of other religions minorities and even the non religious. The religeous govts of times past have often fought holy wars against eachother, christians vs jews, christians vs muslims, muslims vs christians, muslims vs jews, everyone against the druze and the yazidis or the zoroastrians.

    heck in the middle east i hate to say it but sadam hussein and assad and the egyptian military and in the past the turkish military had worked hard to prevent religious rule, and instead went to more law and order, with saddam dead and assad still not in full control there have been multiple groups trying to commit a holy war against minorities the most known is isis. At some point it is easy to realize that when a leader rallies an entire countries legal system around a single faith and single branch of that faith that it will soon be used to rally the people against what they deem as non believers, much like the protestant and catholic wars of past.


    Armenia is the exception, they are a christian nation who fights no one but their neighbor over land disputes, but then again they are isolated enough they really do not have the option to go around conquering anyone.
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    Re: Events that seem to occur in warp speed and forgotten nearly as quickly

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    Non religious govt's have usually been the best, in the past non religious govt's even in the most religious of countries have managed to balance out appeasing the religious majority while protecting the rights of other religions minorities and even the non religious. The religeous govts of times past have often fought holy wars against eachother, christians vs jews, christians vs muslims, muslims vs christians, muslims vs jews, everyone against the druze and the yazidis or the zoroastrians.

    heck in the middle east i hate to say it but sadam hussein and assad and the egyptian military and in the past the turkish military had worked hard to prevent religious rule, and instead went to more law and order, with saddam dead and assad still not in full control there have been multiple groups trying to commit a holy war against minorities the most known is isis. At some point it is easy to realize that when a leader rallies an entire countries legal system around a single faith and single branch of that faith that it will soon be used to rally the people against what they deem as non believers, much like the protestant and catholic wars of past.


    Armenia is the exception, they are a christian nation who fights no one but their neighbor over land disputes, but then again they are isolated enough they really do not have the option to go around conquering anyone.
    Beerftw:

    I'm not sure what you're trying to say in the third paragraph. To date the US has done a praiseworthy job of separating church and state. US wars of aggression or less frequently defence have been more about ideology and/or economics than religion.

    The first two paragraphs are clearer and I agree with your positions.

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    Re: Events that seem to occur in warp speed and forgotten nearly as quickly

    Quote Originally Posted by HumblePi View Post
    The point is, there was never any resolution to ANY of them to date, even going back to Parkland. What was done? Nothing.
    HP:

    Democracy can be an excruciatingly slow process which only allows for partial solutions through compromise. So a long-haul outlook and approach is needed.

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    Re: Events that seem to occur in warp speed and forgotten nearly as quickly

    Quote Originally Posted by Evilroddy View Post
    Beerftw:

    I'm not sure what you're trying to say in the third paragraph. To date the US has done a praiseworthy job of separating church and state. US wars of aggression or less frequently defence have been more about ideology and/or economics than religion.

    The first two paragraphs are clearer and I agree with your positions.

    Cheers.
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    The third paragraph mentions a religiously run nation armenia, america has done wonders however it is not a religiously run country and even had it put into the first amendment to seperate such, likely due to britain which they seperated from fighting many wars to prevent catholics aka the spanish from expanding. I kid you not read some of the old justifications for expansion and war in the colonial days, often preventing catholic expansion is mentioned.
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    Re: Events that seem to occur in warp speed and forgotten nearly as quickly

    Quote Originally Posted by HumblePi View Post
    The point is, there was never any resolution to ANY of them to date, even going back to Parkland. What was done? Nothing.
    You can't fix death. It is kind of a permanent condition.

    As for your OP and the stockmarket, trading volume is more important than indices being up or down but few people in politics look at that.

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