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Protesters have shut down Hong Kong airport for the second day in a row. Hong Kong airport is one of the busiest in the world.

Live feed:

YouTube
 
Protesters have shut down Hong Kong airport for the second day in a row. Hong Kong airport is one of the busiest in the world.

Live feed:

YouTube

Hong Kong is ranked #8 as far as traffic. Imagine this happening @LAX for two days. China seems to be showing marked restraint given their history.
 
Hong Kong is ranked #8 as far as traffic. Imagine this happening @LAX for two days. China seems to be showing marked restraint given their history.

They'll be restrained as long as the cameras are rolling.
 
You can be sure than any people taken into custody by the military will never be seen or heard from again.

History folks
 
They'll be restrained as long as the cameras are rolling.

They will let it burn out.

The HK economy is going to suffer from this. The wealthy elite in Hong Kong are going to lose a lot of money from this. So people will lose jobs, they wont have money for rent, or for school.

The collapse of the HK economy as a result will reinforce the believe that stability in China, the growth that the Mainland government has provided over the decades is far better than the alternative of decline and chaos.

Overall wait and see what happens in September when school starts both secondary and Universities. Parents who accept the protests now, are unlikely to accept their kids missing out on school.
 
Protesters have shut down Hong Kong airport for the second day in a row. Hong Kong airport is one of the busiest in the world.

Live feed:

YouTube

Maybe shutting down the airport, making sure nobody can leave Hong Kong, is kind of insurance.
Won't help in the end. Beijing will call it terrorism any time now and then the **** will hit the fan.
 
They will let it burn out.

The HK economy is going to suffer from this. The wealthy elite in Hong Kong are going to lose a lot of money from this. So people will lose jobs, they wont have money for rent, or for school.

The collapse of the HK economy as a result will reinforce the believe that stability in China, the growth that the Mainland government has provided over the decades is far better than the alternative of decline and chaos.

Overall wait and see what happens in September when school starts both secondary and Universities. Parents who accept the protests now, are unlikely to accept their kids missing out on school.


At the pace of the protests, I don’t see this continuing to September. China is getting boxed in and they know the world is paying attention; especially Taiwan.

I think Beijing has already called these protests “terrorism.”

Link: China slams Hong Kong protest violence as 'terrorism' - CNA
 
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At the pace of the protests, I don’t see this continuing to September. China is getting boxed in and they know the world is paying attention; especially Taiwan.

I think Beijing has already called these protests “terrorism.”

Yes they have called it terrorism.

Unless the protests get more violent and destructive I doubt China will go in. If they go in, then the work they have done in trying to influence Taiwan is lost. So it is a far better political calculation to let them burn out unless the protesters get more violent. They would have had a perfect opportunity after protesters broke into the Legislative building. The vandalism and use of chemical cleaners to attack police would have provided the perfect reason to send in Military Police. I think the protesters feel that time is running out, hence the news about China invading each of the last two days. China can easily wait out the protests, unless it moves to the mainland. If that happens a crackdown will occur very quickly




Protesters storm and vandalise Legislative Council as anarchy and violence engulf Hong Kong government centre | South China Morning Post

Violence erupted on Hong Kong’s streets on Monday, the day the city marked the anniversary of its return to Chinese rule, as anti-government protesters stormed the legislature after forcing its evacuation for the first time.
The mob used makeshift weapons, including a metal cart, bars and panels, to break into the Legislative Council building in what appeared to be an impromptu move in which protesters did not know their next step.
 
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Above are some of the paramilitary transports and APCs staged at the Shenzen Sports Complex. This is on the other side of Hong Kong harbor ... about 30 minutes away.
 
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Above are some of the paramilitary transports and APCs staged at the Shenzen Sports Complex. This is on the other side of Hong Kong harbor ... about 30 minutes away.

Here is the question: How does the Chinese security services transport those APCs, AFVs and heavy vehicles along with (presumably) tens of thousands of security and paramilitary personnel to Hong Kong? Why are they waiting?
 
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Here is the question: How does the Chinese security services transport those APCs, AFVs and heavy vehicles along with (presumably) tens of thousands of security and paramilitary personnel to Hong Kong?

Uh, over the bridge?
 
Uh, over the bridge?

Can the bridge(s) in question withstand the tonnage of Armored Fighting Vehicles going over them? Tanks, APCs and AFVs weigh far more than cars and trucks.
 
Can the bridge(s) in question withstand the tonnage? Tanks, APCs and AFVs weigh far more than cars and trucks.

Don't know. Neither do you. But the Chinese do.
 
Don't know. Neither do you. But the Chinese do.

Hence why I asked.

Because let me be clear: If the Chinese government is willing to shove upwards of 1 million Uyghurs into a series concentration camps with hardly a peep of condemnation or consequence from any of the major political and economic powers of the world, does anyone here think they would hesitate to engage mass arrests and violent suppression (up to and including outright killing) of a few tens of thousands of troublemaking Cantonese islanders longing to maintain their limited freedoms. And it is a near-certainty that no outside country is going to lift a finger to stop or impede China in any way, shape or form from doing so.

So I am given to wonder if the reason haven't yet pulled a Tiananmen Square on these protesters is because they have assessed the risks of rolling their heavy armored fighting vehicles over the bridges. There is little saving face for a fascist government if several of your country's finest military-grade vehicles along with hundreds (or thousands) of your security personnel fall into the drink due to a bridge collapse, is there?
 
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Hence why I asked.

Because let me be clear: If the Chinese government is willing to shove upwards of 1 million Uyghurs into a series concentration camps with hardly a peep of condemnation or consequence from any of the major political and economic powers of the world, I do not think they are going to care about the bad P.R. generated from a the mass arrests (and violent suppression up to and including outright killing) of a few tens of thousands of troublemaking Cantonese islanders longing to maintain their limited freedoms. And it is a near-certainty that no outside country is going to lift a finger to stop or impede China in any way, shape or form from doing so.

So I am given to wonder if the reason haven't yet pulled a Tiananmen Square on these protesters is because they have assessed the risks of rolling their heavy armored fighting vehicles over the bridges. There is little saving face for a fascist government if several of your country's finest military-grade vehicles along with hundreds (or thousands) of your security personnel fall into the drink due to a bridge collapse, is there?

Felis Leo:

Light armoured vehicles could use the many bridges to Hong Kong, Lantau and the International Airport islands. The cross harbour tunnels could get heavy armour from Kowloon to Hong Kong and railway bridges could be used too. Ferries could get heavy armoured vehicles to almost every major island and on the smaller islands would probably not be needed. There are also PLA vehicles pre-positioned in Hong Kong, Lantau and at the airport. So the major islands could be controlled and insurrection suppressed easily from a transportation perspective while the smaller islands would be more challenging.

Cheers.
Evilroddy.
 
Felis Leo:

Light armoured vehicles could use the many bridges to Hong Kong, Lantau and the International Airport islands. The cross harbour tunnels could get heavy armour from Kowloon to Hong Kong and railway bridges could be used too. Ferries could get heavy armoured vehicles to almost every major island and on the smaller islands would probably not be needed. There are also PLA vehicles pre-positioned in Hong Kong, Lantau and at the airport. So the major islands could be controlled and insurrection suppressed easily from a transportation perspective while the smaller islands would be more challenging.

Cheers.
Evilroddy.

Thank you for the information, Evilroddy.
 
Here is the question: How does the Chinese security services transport those APCs, AFVs and heavy vehicles along with (presumably) tens of thousands of security and paramilitary personnel to Hong Kong? Why are they waiting?

The majority of the territory that is considered to be Hong Kong is actually attached to the mainland, so no APCs required

The Wheeled APC that would likely be used are likely to weigh 15 tonnes, easily within the weight limitations of any bridges in the area that accept heavy transport trucks

HK already has 6000 PLA soldiers (various duties) within it. The pictures show vehicles that could support perhaps another 4000
 
I watched a video of the HK protesters waving US flags and singing the Star Spangled Banner. Good to see us being an inspiration.
 
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