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When Russia-Backed Forces Boasted They Shot Down A Ukrainian Military Plane…That Was Actually MH17

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Since MH17 held passengers from many nations, I'm placing this thread here in the International forum.

When Russia-Backed Forces Boasted They Shot Down A Ukrainian Military Plane…That Was Actually MH17

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Pro-Russia terrorist holds up a dead child's stuffed animal.

7/15/19
The wreckage of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 was still smoldering in the countryside of eastern Ukraine, the remains of the 298 people aboard strewn across several kilometers of rolling fields of wheat and sunflowers, when Russian media began relaying news of a downed plane in the area. “A fresh victory for the Donetsk rebels: Another Ukrainian plane was shot down in the city of Torez,” the anchorwoman for the Kremlin-loyal network LifeNews told viewers, referring to Russia-backed separatists fighting Kyiv’s forces in the region known as the Donbas. The shoot-down led the network’s news segment on the evening of July 17, 2014, as the anchorwoman gave details of the separatists’ putative triumph.....

  • “The rebels say they were able to shoot down another transport plane of the Ukrainian Air Force,” she said.
    “This occurred above the city of Torez in the self-declared Donetsk Republic. It all happened at around 5 p.m. Moscow time.
    A Ukrainian An-26 was flying, and suddenly it was struck by a missile, an explosion was heard, and the plane began to fall.”

The plane, of course, was not a Ukrainian military aircraft. It was MH17, from whose fuselage thick black smoke was streaming into the summer sky in the amateur footage broadcast by LifeNews. The segment is part of a patchwork of evidence -- including news reports, social-media posts, and witness accounts -- showing that the Russia-backed separatists initially believed they had shot down an enemy aircraft -- and even boasted about doing so -- before the scale of the tragedy became clear. The victims – adults and children on a routine Boeing 777 flight from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur -- included citizens of 17 countries.

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This article tells the story of how the Russians and Donetsk militants originally thought that on 17 July 2014 they had downed another Ukrainian military transport plane. Why did they assume this? Because on 14 June 2014 they had shot down a Ukrainian Air Force Ilyushin Il-76 killing all 49 aboard. This time however, it was Malaysian passenger airliner MH17 carrying 298 men, women, and children.

Unlike the Ukraine military Il-76 which intended to land at Luhansk Airport and was struck by 2 Igla shoulder-fired missiles at ~15,000 feet, MH17 was struck by a BUK missile flying at 32,000 feet over Donetsk oblast. At that altitude the Russians should have realized that this plane was not going to land at either the Donetsk or Luhansk airports. It could very well be a passenger airliner simply overflying Ukraine. They fired anyway.
 
Wow, so not only are they assholes, they're stupid. Wish the Russians and Ukrainians could get Putin and Co out of the way long enough to stomp a mudhole in em.
 
If there were any justice in this world, those individuals who shot down MH - 13 would be executed.

Bur, of course, there is NO justice.

So they will continue to live out their lives, unlike the men, women, and babies who were literally shot out of the air and fell to the ground below.


I voted for President Trump and hope he wins in 2020, but I cringe every time he shakes hands with President Putin, who is ultimately responsible for that massacre of innocents.
 
TheParser said:
I voted for President Trump and hope he wins in 2020, but I cringe every time he shakes hands with President Putin, who is ultimately responsible for that massacre of innocents.
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Stop voting for Trump and you won't have to cringe. Trump also said (Helsinki) he believed the KGB Colonel more than the US intelligence community regarding Russian meddling.

And remember also, Trump always shakes hands with his "beautiful friend" Kim, the murderer of US citizen Otto Warmbier.
 
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