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A US war with Iran looms. Don’t for one second think that it is justified

Ah yes I remember a few years ago when the cult like Trumpsters were going on and on about how Trump was NOT a typical politician and/or Republican.. They said he wouldn't lie like a typical politician... A BIG LOL on that..

That he would not get us in another M.E. war, as a matter of fact they said he'd get us out of the M.E... That's a BIG NO!!

And he'd 'drain the swamp... Another BIG LOL!!!

If they would at least admit they were wrong, but they won't.. Cult members stick together..
 
You people? :lamo

We all know that you people are going to do whatever your Dear Leader tells you. Y'all have proven this time and time again.
 
Ah yes I remember a few years ago when the cult like Trumpsters were going on and on about how Trump was NOT a typical politician and/or Republican.. They said he wouldn't lie like a typical politician... A BIG LOL on that..

That he would not get us in another M.E. war, as a matter of fact they said he'd get us out of the M.E... That's a BIG NO!!

And he'd 'drain the swamp... Another BIG LOL!!!

If they would at least admit they were wrong, but they won't.. Cult members stick together..
 
Ah yes I remember a few years ago when the cult like Trumpsters were going on and on about how Trump was NOT a typical politician and/or Republican.. They said he wouldn't lie like a typical politician... A BIG LOL on that..

That he would not get us in another M.E. war, as a matter of fact they said he'd get us out of the M.E... That's a BIG NO!!

And he'd 'drain the swamp... Another BIG LOL!!!

If they would at least admit they were wrong, but they won't.. Cult members stick together..

Their Dear Leader is telling them to get in touch with their inner war hawk. It never went away, their leaders just told them to pretend to be anti-war.
 
Ah yes I remember a few years ago when the cult like Trumpsters were going on and on about how Trump was NOT a typical politician and/or Republican.. They said he wouldn't lie like a typical politician... A BIG LOL on that..

That he would not get us in another M.E. war, as a matter of fact they said he'd get us out of the M.E... That's a BIG NO!!

And he'd 'drain the swamp... Another BIG LOL!!!

If they would at least admit they were wrong, but they won't.. Cult members stick together..

Isis is not laughing so much..

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Re: A US war with Iran looms. Don’t for one second think that it is justified

Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 - Wikipedia ;)

Go on, you were saying something about no Congressional war authorization since World War II? :)

No, I said there was not a declaration of war:

A declaration of war is a formal declaration issued by a national government indicating that a state of war exists between that nation and another.

The fact remains, the last declared war was WWII.

Read your post again and find me Declaration of War, there was none. As clearly pointed out, it was an Authorization for use of military force against Iraq Resolution of 2002,[1] informally known as the Iraq Resolution.

The War Powers Act is a congressional resolution designed to limit the U.S. president’s ability to initiate or escalate military actions abroad. Among other restrictions, the law requires that presidents notify Congress after deploying the armed forces and limits how long units can remain engaged without congressional approval.

You seem to get confused by the technicality of word usage, I clearly spoke of a declaration of war.
 
Re: A US war with Iran looms. Don’t for one second think that it is justified

Complete scumbags, once again, the US are the bad guys

If we go to war with Iran, we will get our asses kicked.


If we do, then Europe and the rest of the world should start slapping sanction on the US. Enough of this bull****.

Or the people fed up with this bull**** should kick this countries ass. The protest would be so much more than Iraq war
 
All the alt-right trolls who claimed that tRump wouldn't try to start another war? Time to eat some more crow.

And Trump did what to Iran?

America hasn't done a thing to provoke Iran.

Go back to you global warming arguments........please! At least we all get a laugh from you.
 
Re: A US war with Iran looms. Don’t for one second think that it is justified

Complete scumbags, once again, the US are the bad guys




If we do, then Europe and the rest of the world should start slapping sanction on the US. Enough of this bull****.

Or the people fed up with this bull**** should kick this countries ass. The protest would be so much more than Iraq war

Too bad you all didn't say this after Obama killed another 4 thousand in Iraq & Afghanistan, and went on to bomb another 5 countries.

You people are such phonies.
 
And Trump did what to Iran?

America hasn't done a thing to provoke Iran.

Go back to you global warming arguments........please! At least we all get a laugh from you.



Not much on twentieth century history, are you?
 
Not much on twentieth century history, are you?


There is no point with right wingers, they are just dishonest trolls. Complete morons and they just ignore all reality. Hence why they support the scum trump
 
There is no point with right wingers, they are just dishonest trolls. Complete morons and they just ignore all reality. Hence why they support the scum trump

Yep. Trump backs out of the agreement we had with Iran and Iran was abiding to. And tries to cripple Iran's economy.. But in Trump's cult world we haven't provoked Iran..

Another Republican Prez with war mongering neo-cons around him. So we'll be in another war.
 
And Trump did what to Iran?

America hasn't done a thing to provoke Iran.

Go back to you global warming arguments........please! At least we all get a laugh from you.

Your juvenile attempt at a threadjack will not save you from your stupid question. tRump's bailing on the Iran treaty slammed shut a pathway that was keeping them in check. Now he's got loose lips syndrome. Didn't they teach you that loose lips sink ships?

Too bad you all didn't say this after Obama killed another 4 thousand in Iraq & Afghanistan, and went on to bomb another 5 countries.

You people are such phonies.

There's the What-about-Obama card. Right on queue. Taking personal responsibility for your president just isn't conservatives' strong suit. ;)
 
Re: A US war with Iran looms. Don’t for one second think that it is justified

No, I said there was not a declaration of war:



The fact remains, the last declared war was WWII.

Read your post again and find me Declaration of War, there was none. As clearly pointed out, it was an Authorization for use of military force against Iraq Resolution of 2002,[1] informally known as the Iraq Resolution.



You seem to get confused by the technicality of word usage, I clearly spoke of a declaration of war.

You are free to split hairs between the two, but you're forgetting that Congress unambiguously authorized the president to use military force as recently as 2002. As some have pointed out, that's Congress's prerogative, but presidents of both parties have had a habit of sidestepping that.
 
Your juvenile attempt at a threadjack will not save you from your stupid question. tRump's bailing on the Iran treaty slammed shut a pathway that was keeping them in check. Now he's got loose lips syndrome. Didn't they teach you that loose lips sink ships?



There's the What-about-Obama card. Right on queue. Taking personal responsibility for your president just isn't conservatives' strong suit. ;)

Lib's loved Russia and mocked Romney.

Lib's are loving Iran because another Republican is at the helm.

And...... I didn't vote for trump.

You keep getting everything wrong and yet still come off acting like you are so superior to everyone you disagree with.

You must have a very thick skull for all the abuse you render onto yourself.
 
From the article cited by the OP:

Critics of war are demonised as stooges or useful idiots of an enemy that imperils national security and menaces its own people, and as haters of their own country.

Pretty much sums up a significant proportion of the comments on this thread. As the OP said, sift through the angry political rhetoric and you will find kernels of truth in the article and one big mistake too.

Cheers.
Evilroddy.
 
Re: A US war with Iran looms. Don’t for one second think that it is justified

You are free to split hairs between the two, but you're forgetting that Congress unambiguously authorized the president to use military force as recently as 2002. As some have pointed out, that's Congress's prerogative, but presidents of both parties have had a habit of sidestepping that.

It's not splitting hairs, words have meanings, well to most anyway.
 
From The Guardian

A US war with Iran looms. Don’t for one second think that it is justified


s worst humanitarian crisis. Critics of war are demonised as stooges or useful idiots of an enemy that imperils national security and menaces its own people, and as haters of their own country.

It happened in Iraq, it happened in Libya, too: both countries were swiftly drowned in blood and chaos. In a just world, one might expect the cheerleaders of these catastrophes – which ended in the slaughter of hundreds of thousands, the maiming and traumatising of countless others, created millions of refugees and internally displaced persons, and turned both nations into playgrounds for violent extremists – to be driven from public life in disgrace. Instead they retain their influence – within the US administration (most strikingly in the form of John Bolton, Trump’s national security adviser), within the leading echelons of the Conservative party, and within the commentariat. And, without shame but with much bloodlust, they set about building the case for a new war with Iran.

After Jeremy Corbyn suggested that the Trump administration’s pronouncement of Iranian guilt over the tanker attacks needed to be scrutinised, and that “Britain should act to ease tensions in the Gulf,” he faced a barrage of denunciations. You see, you are more likely to be regarded as a respectable politician if you casually call for wars that will incinerate sleeping infants and annihilate wedding parties than if you call for de-escalation and peace. Never mind that EU foreign ministers echoed Corbyn’s position, demanding an independent UN investigation and more evidence. Corbyn was “pathetic and predictable”, pronounced flailing Conservative leadership candidate Jeremy Hunt, asking why Corbyn could “never bring himself to back British allies, British intelligence or British interests.” This is somewhat curious given the Labour leader had the same line as Britain’s European allies, and only the delusional or the wicked could imagine a new Middle Eastern conflagration amounts to “backing British interests”.

It is the comments of fellow flailing Tory leadership candidate Michael Gove that are particularly instructive: Corbyn’s “comments on Iran show once again he is not fit to be trusted with our national security”. Here is a man who called for the invasion of Iraq two days after 9/11 and who remains gruesomely supportive of it. According to Tory ex-chancellor Ken Clarke, with Gove as prime minister “we’d go to war with at least three countries at once”.

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Despite the "editorial tone" and "inflammatory rhetoric" (and this IS an "opinion piece") there is a lot of concrete information in the piece, so I urge anyone who feels like reading it to disregard the "editorial tone" and "inflammatory rhetoric" in order to concentrate on the SUBSTANCE rather than the TONE.

Of course I have absolutely no expectations that any discussion will not consist of 90% attention to TONE and 10% attention to SUBSTANCE - but that IS what politics is all about these days, isn't it?​

Saddam , like Gaddafi, was a brutal thug responsible for much death and destruction in his own country alone, much less in other ones. The Iranian regime, likewise, is responsible for sponsoring terrorist attacks and mass murders across the globe for decades. These are people who cleared mindfields by sending child soldiers charging across them.

Given Jeremy Corbyn's history with Hezbollah--- a group closely aligned with Iranian interests--- he's hardly an impartial commenter.
 
If we go to war with Iran, we will get our asses kicked.

We will certainly take casualties, but no, the Iranian military is not capable of repulsing US forces
 
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