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Russia : collapse of the United States and the Pan-African State , starting a racial war in America

does this putler´s plan have a chance ?

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question : does this putler´s plan have a chance ? what do you think?

"The collapse of the United States and the "Pan-African State": how the staff of Prigogine dreamed of starting a racial war in America
Africa will become a stronghold of anti-American "Negroid" racism, on the continent there will be bases of black activists preparing for a racial war in America. Recruitment of African Americans associated with organized crime will begin in the states of the American South. The US will fall apart, a new “Pan-African State” will emerge in several states.

This is not a dystopia, not a work in the genre of "alternative history", not a horror story from marginal racist newspapers. These are the work plans that are at the disposal of the Dossier Center , which are developed and even appear to be sent to high-ranking army generals by the staff of Yevgeny Prigogine. And people who have big stars on their shoulder straps, and in their hands are questions of war and peace, do not drive away these scammers with insane concepts. Prigozhintsy continue to be partners of the Russian state.

“According to the strategy of the American division of the company, it is planned to create a Pan-African state in the states of Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, Mississippi, Louisiana. The creation of this state will undermine the territorial unity, the military and economic potential of the United States, ”says one of the documents from Prigazha, transmitted by the Dossier Center of the MBH Media.

As part of the “strategy” for the collapse of the United States, it is proposed to carry out activities in a number of areas listed in the letter:

Creating a network of training camps for black activists in Africa, where ideological training and courses on the basics of combat training can be held.
The recruitment of African Americans living in the poorest cities of the United States who have experience of participation in organized criminal groups, as well as serving sentences in prisons.
Attracting members of the black radical movements to participate in acts of disobedience in the territory of major cities to destabilize the situation within the United States.
Information support and public relations of political parties and movements that seek to create a separate Pan-African state in the United States.
Creation of a non-profit human rights organization defending the rights of the black population of the United States . "

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Jim Jones gotta bunch of idiots from California to go to Africa and drink Kool aid...anythings possible.
 
Jim Jones gotta bunch of idiots from California to go to Africa and drink Kool aid...anythings possible.

do you compere Jim with putler´s “strategy” for the collapse of the United States ?

“strategy” for the collapse of the United States,
it is proposed to carry out activities in a number of areas listed in the letter:

Creating a network of training camps for black activists in Africa, where ideological training and courses on the basics of combat training can be held.
The recruitment of African Americans living in the poorest cities of the United States who have experience of participation in organized criminal groups, as well as serving sentences in prisons.
Attracting members of the black radical movements to participate in acts of disobedience in the territory of major cities to destabilize the situation within the United States.
Information support and public relations of political parties and movements that seek to create a separate Pan-African state in the United States.
Creation of a non-profit human rights organization defending the rights of the black population of the United States . "
 
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future pan - African state in USA, according putler´s scenario
 
Jim Jones gotta bunch of idiots from California to go to Africa and drink Kool aid...anythings possible.

What a mix of irony and ignorance!
 
Jim Jones gotta bunch of idiots from California to go to Africa and drink Kool aid...anythings possible.

to go to Africa and drink Kool aid...anythings possible.


The Peoples Temple Agricultural Project, better known by its informal name "Jonestown", was a remote settlement established by the Peoples Temple, a cult under the leadership of Jim Jones, in northwestern Guyana.

a cult under the leadership of Jim Jones, in northwestern Guyana.


Guyana (/ɡaɪˈɑːnə/ or /ɡaɪˈænə/),[7][8] officially the Co-operative Republic of Guyana,[9] is a country on the northern mainland of South America.

is a country on the northern mainland of South America.

South America


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Jim Jones gotta bunch of idiots from California to go to Africa and drink Kool aid...anythings possible.

Apparently, we have another Trump that never reads.

The Jim Jones cult drank the spiked Kool-aid in Guyana .... next to Venezuela, which is in South America.
 
question : does this putler´s plan have a chance ? what do you think?
It has absolutely no chance. Anyone who lives in the US could tell you this. Certainly there could be enough brewing resentment to recruit people in the prison system for some isolated, small terror attacks, and the result could definitely feed into political polarization. But civil war? Absolutely not.
 
Muscovy (ulus of juchi) today is :


The territory of "Russia" is 17.075.260 square meters. km and mainly lies north of 55 ° N.
Approximately 85% of the territory is not suitable for permanent comfortable living of the population. permafrost (areas of Siberia and the Far East) occupies 60% of the territory of Russia, swamps and wetlands almost 22%, rivers and lakes about 4%. Another part of the land is periodically flooded, part is occupied by mountains and forests, a little under ravines, part under deserts and solonchaks.

According to the State Statistics Committee's report for 2005, in Russia 2.2 million square meters of agricultural land are cultivated or used in agriculture. km, of which only 1.2 million for arable land, 0.2 million square kilometers are occupied by settlements of all types in the country. km, for industrial facilities and for military purposes 0.2 million, for other 0.1 million.
For a happy life, the Russians still have 2.561.289 square meters. km.
This is 15% of the territory ie. real Russia is slightly larger than Sudan, but less than Kazakhstan.
Average temperatures in January, in different regions, from 0 to -50 ° C, in July from 1 to 25 ° C, precipitation falls from 150 to 2000 mm per year.
At temperatures below -5 ° C, the maintenance costs of the infrastructure with each degree below zero increase exponentially.
Snow removal in the thickness of 40 cm in St. Petersburg takes more than 30 days.


Russia accounts for less than 2% of global GDP. The main export items (according to the Federal Customs Service) are gas and oil (70%), primary metals (15%), roundwood (10%), everything else, including equipment, weapons and technology - less than 5%.

According to soil scientists, 17.8% of agricultural land is subject to water erosion, 8.4% of wind erosion, 12.3% of wetlands and wetlands occupy wetlands and wetlands, and saline soils - 20.1%.
The land, not subject to all these misfortunes, in Russia is only 0.91 million square meters. km.
The agricultural season in most of Russia is 2-3 months (in Europe or the US 8-9 months). The average annual yield of cereals in Russia (on non-chernozems) is about 17 centners, in Germany, France and Great Britain (on nonchernozem) - 70 quintals per hectare, in Sweden - 60, in Ireland - 85, in Ukraine (on chernozems) - 24 in all.
 
The Russian state border stretches for 58,322 km and has 424 border crossings.
The total number of settlements is 157.895, of which more than 30.000 are still without telephone communication.
Most of the 39,000 abandoned villages and settlements are in the Central Federal District, the Northwest, the Far North, Siberia and the Far East.
In Russia only 65% of housing has been gasified.
Up to 75% of Russia's food needs are covered by imports.
78.7% of Russians consider cooperation with law enforcement bodies as unacceptable.
Russia consumes more than 20% of all heroin produced in the world.
The volume of the Russian market of heroin alone is estimated at $ 13 billion annually.
Every day in Russia, 100 people die because of a drug overdose.

In 2009, 786 terrorist acts were committed in Russia. Since the beginning of 2010, already 427.
The flying time of NATO strike aviation from the borders of Estonia and Latvia to St. Petersburg does not exceed 4 minutes, to Moscow - no more than 18.

Life in Russia is satisfied with two categories of people: those who are not in the know and those who are in the share.

63% of Russians with incomes above the national average would like their children to study and work abroad.
35% want their children to live abroad permanently.
At 2.000 vacancies for janitors opened in St. Petersburg in early 2010, there were fewer than 10 applicants.
The proposed salary is 12.000 rub / month.
The increase in the cost of travel in the St. Petersburg metro since 2003 is 35% per year.
Last year, more than 50 tons of explosives were seized at Russian airports.

The average Russian consumes 18 liters of alcohol per year. According to the conclusion of UN experts, the annual consumption of 8 liters of alcohol per capita leads to a serious degradation of the population.
In Russia, a pack of cigarettes can be bought for 30 cents, a bottle of beer, which can be bought at every corner 24 hours a day, is cheaper than a bottle of drinking water.
Only 1% of the water consumed by Russians meets the world quality standards.
in Russia there are 51,230 people who were exposed to radiation as a result of the Chernobyl accident.

The State Duma and the Federation Council meet 12 billionaires, whose overall condition is estimated at 41 billion dollars.
Russia has 62 billionaires with a combined capital of $ 297 billion. Russian billionaires pay the lowest taxes in the world (13%) that their colleagues in France and Sweden (57%), in Denmark (61%) or Italy (66%) %).
26% of Russians have an outstanding loan.
143,000 people were deprived of the right to travel abroad due to problems with their debts.

According to the Rosgosstrakh CSR, in Russia the annual income is more than $ 1 million from 160,000 people, the annual income of more than $ 100,000 has 440,000 families"
 
It has absolutely no chance. Anyone who lives in the US could tell you this. Certainly there could be enough brewing resentment to recruit people in the prison system for some isolated, small terror attacks, and the result could definitely feed into political polarization. But civil war? Absolutely not.

ozero target is a partisan long going war , you dont need many fighters, for instance Chechens won 2 wars with "russia" with never more then 2 000 fighters. can they recruit enough people for low, middle scale partisan war ?
 
Apparently, we have another Trump that never reads.

The Jim Jones cult drank the spiked Kool-aid in Guyana .... next to Venezuela, which is in South America.

It has absolutely no chance. Anyone who lives in the US could tell you this. Certainly there could be enough brewing resentment to recruit people in the prison system for some isolated, small terror attacks, and the result could definitely feed into political polarization. But civil war? Absolutely not.

Russian secret documents show plot to stoke US racial violence - Vox
"Prigozhin and his team of Russian trolls tried to inflame racial tensions during the 2016 cycle by operating several social media accounts that tried to discourage African Americans from voting, mainly by repeating messages of police violence and voter fraud.

But the apparent new plot, discussed as recently as 2018 ahead of the 2020 presidential election, goes much further. The documents reportedly contain shocking proposals such as sending black Americans to Africa “for combat prep and training in sabotage,” as well as targeting people who have previously been incarcerated and people “who have experience in organized crime groups ... for participation in civil disobedience actions.”

The goal, it seems, was to encourage the newly trained African Americans to create their own pan-African state in America’s South. That would “undermine the country’s territorial integrity and military and economic potential,” according to one document, by “destabiliz[ing] the internal situation in the US.”

It’s possible Prigozhin’s associates felt they had an opening to do this because President Donald Trump’s 2016 election victory “deepened conflicts in American society,” per one of the documents.

This would be quite the dastardly plan, but it’s important to note two things. First, there is no indication of how seriously the documents — titled “Development Strategy of a Pan-African State on US Territory”"
Russian secret documents show plot to stoke US racial violence - Vox

May 21, 2019 - The Russians who interfered in the 2016 US presidential election are still ... to ignite racial violence in America and a partial collapse of the United States. ... Americans to create their own pan-African state in America's South.
 
1. Everyone (Everyone!) agrees that the United States of America is quickly a-changing.

2. Some people are delighted by this change.

3. Some people are worried about this change.

4. Re: the scenario described in the OP, the only thing to say is: No one (no one!) knows what is going to happen in the future.
 
Why is this thread in the breaking news area?

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ozero target is a partisan long going war , you dont need many fighters, for instance Chechens won 2 wars with "russia" with never more then 2 000 fighters. can they recruit enough people for low, middle scale partisan war ?
Systematic organization would be impossible in my estimation. Small cells could operate much like terror cells now, but that's about it.
 
Systematic organization would be impossible in my estimation. Small cells could operate much like terror cells now, but that's about it.

+1, what results (effects on American south) of it will be ?
 
Apparently, we have another Trump that never reads.

The Jim Jones cult drank the spiked Kool-aid in Guyana .... next to Venezuela, which is in South America.

And that changes the analogy how?:roll:
 
+1, what results (effects on American south) of it will be ?
Hard to predict. Quite a bit of violence could just blend into the noise of the current epidemic of mass shootings. Most likely, I think the response would be authoritarian and would lead to a more, rather than less, nationalistic country.
 
question : does this putler´s plan have a chance ? what do you think?

"The collapse of the United States and the "Pan-African State": how the staff of Prigogine dreamed of starting a racial war in America
Africa will become a stronghold of anti-American "Negroid" racism, on the continent there will be bases of black activists preparing for a racial war in America. Recruitment of African Americans associated with organized crime will begin in the states of the American South. The US will fall apart, a new “Pan-African State” will emerge in several states.

This is not a dystopia, not a work in the genre of "alternative history", not a horror story from marginal racist newspapers. These are the work plans that are at the disposal of the Dossier Center , which are developed and even appear to be sent to high-ranking army generals by the staff of Yevgeny Prigogine. And people who have big stars on their shoulder straps, and in their hands are questions of war and peace, do not drive away these scammers with insane concepts. Prigozhintsy continue to be partners of the Russian state.

“According to the strategy of the American division of the company, it is planned to create a Pan-African state in the states of Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, Mississippi, Louisiana. The creation of this state will undermine the territorial unity, the military and economic potential of the United States, ”says one of the documents from Prigazha, transmitted by the Dossier Center of the MBH Media.

As part of the “strategy” for the collapse of the United States, it is proposed to carry out activities in a number of areas listed in the letter:

Creating a network of training camps for black activists in Africa, where ideological training and courses on the basics of combat training can be held.
The recruitment of African Americans living in the poorest cities of the United States who have experience of participation in organized criminal groups, as well as serving sentences in prisons.
Attracting members of the black radical movements to participate in acts of disobedience in the territory of major cities to destabilize the situation within the United States.
Information support and public relations of political parties and movements that seek to create a separate Pan-African state in the United States.
Creation of a non-profit human rights organization defending the rights of the black population of the United States . "

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I'll say no. However, as long as the media maintains two distinct groups, the diminishing "whites" and the increasing "minorities", the US will eventually become like South Africa. No race war, just an increase in voluntary segregation.
 
Hard to predict. Quite a bit of violence could just blend into the noise of the current epidemic of mass shootings. Most likely, I think the response would be authoritarian and would lead to a more, rather than less, nationalistic country.

I'll say no. However, as long as the media maintains two distinct groups, the diminishing "whites" and the increasing "minorities", the US will eventually become like South Africa. No race war, just an increase in voluntary segregation.

guys what do you think about this scenario in poor afro - American areas of south ? Zionist political violence - Wikipedia
 
guys what do you think about this scenario in poor afro - American areas of south ? Zionist political violence - Wikipedia

I don't give much credence to the theory that Jews are inflaming blacks against whites. More black/white segregation and strife leads us to the point of South Africa. Whites are leaving South Africa, and I doubt Jews want to live there either. Inciting black/white strife decreases the quality of life for all, including Jews.
 
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