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When the US swung a Russian election

We do. That is why place sanctions on them. You don't see any countries putting sanctions on us. They know better. They know their place.

All hail Emperor Pipewrench, the Putin of the West!
 
Sure, the US has done much of that sort of thing. But that's a real flimsy excuse for Russian interference in our election. We should stop that regardless.

So, it's OK for US?
 
I agree. We should be the only one allowed to interfere in elections. We live by double standards. It is the basis of our government and justice system. Equal treatment is not all that it is cracked up to be. Do as we say not as we do is my motto. The nerve of those Russians thinking they can do what we do. We are the privileged and can do what ever we like. They are not privileged and should know their place.

OMG, i agree with a liberal. Well, tonight is a supermoon!
 
Of course We should punish them. Who do they think they are? Americans. I don't think so. They need to learn their place in society.

All hail Pope Pipewrench, the lion of righteousness and the hammer of goodness! May the Universal Church of the American-Eden protect us all from sin and wisdom while it punishes all transgressors like evil Vlad the Deceiver. Pipewrench is the bringer of light and the lodestone of truth for the benighted world. Amen!
 
So, it's OK for US?

I didn't say that. Stop trotting out Putin's propaganda for him.

It is up to the "target" country to maintain it's own security. I don't necessarily blame Russia for their actions. They're playing the game. When you watch football do you see a team saying "Well, we tried to score on them, so let's not play defense?" It is up to us to play defense here.

So stop with the "well we did it so it's totally ok" bull****. The new GOP of "party before country" is a disgrace.
 
Sure, the USA is the real evil in this world but we should continue with our rank propaganda to keep this totally biased and unfair system going because it results in the USA slaughtering millions of innocents and I know that speaking for myself, I love to watch US military carpet bomb villagers, shake and bake them, rape their children, torture them, I mean, my life would be empty without being able to thrill to a new illegal USA invasion. Anyone know who is next?

Hey, I get it. Trump won, so it's ok. The ends justify the means.
 
You need to do better research. China, for example, has numerous tariffs against the US. The US has had to compensate soybean farmers, for example, for the damage they've had from Chinese sanctions.

So China has put sanctions on us for interfering in their elections? WOW.
 
Pipewrench:

The Russians can still do whatever they want, even if you define them as the bad guys and the US as the good guys. The colour of your hat does not limit your freedom of action. Only your conscience does that. Neither Russia nor America have shown much conscience in their foreign political meddling and the cost in human lives has been high as a result. The USA has no more right to meddle in foreign democracy than any other state. You're all in the moral gutter when you pervert the democratic process as such behaviour is harmful to all democracy.

Cheers.
Evilroddy.

See when we interfere in other countries governments we are making things better. When the Russians do it they are doing it to hurt the people. We are the good guys and can do no wrong. They are the bad guys and can do no good. This is really very simple.
 
All hail Emperor Pipewrench, the Putin of the West!

I wish I was emperor. It is our government that rules the world. As long as everyone knows this things will be just fine.
 
All hail Pope Pipewrench, the lion of righteousness and the hammer of goodness! May the Universal Church of the American-Eden protect us all from sin and wisdom while it punishes all transgressors like evil Vlad the Deceiver. Pipewrench is the bringer of light and the lodestone of truth for the benighted world. Amen!

I am not the Pope. However as long as they get their gold everything is fine with the pope. "Render unto Caesar I mean the Pope the things that are Pope's, and unto God the things that are God's".
 
See when we interfere in other countries governments we are making things better. When the Russians do it they are doing it to hurt the people. We are the good guys and can do no wrong. They are the bad guys and can do no good. This is really very simple.

Pipewrench:

Tell that to the dead, the disappeared, the tortured and the wounded from Afghanistan, Argentina, Brazil, Burma, Cambodia, Chile, China, Columbia, Congo, Costa Rica, Cuba, Egypt, El Salvador, Guatemala, Haiti, Indonesia, Iraq, Iran, Korea, Laos, Libya, Palestine, Peru, the Philippines, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Ukraine, Vietnam, Yemen, Yugoslavia, Zaire and depressingly many more states which the US have intentionally destabilised in order to further its international policy goals. You're not the good guys anymore than the Russians, or the Chinese are.

Cheers.
Evilroddy.
 
So China has put sanctions on us for interfering in their elections? WOW.

No you know better than that. But they don't 'know their place' either. Those days are long gone 'n they ain't comin' back.
 
I wish I was emperor. It is our government that rules the world. As long as everyone knows this things will be just fine.

Like I said, those days are gone 'n they ain't comin' back.
 
I am not the Pope. However as long as they get their gold everything is fine with the pope. "Render unto Caesar I mean the Pope the things that are Pope's, and unto God the things that are God's".

I'll have you know that I have just had to replace the buffer banks in my AKME Mk. 3 Sarcasm Detector for the third time due to your posts.

Have you considered renting apple boxes to other people so that they can stand on them in order to prevent what you are saying from going over their heads?
 
Pipewrench:

Tell that to the dead, the disappeared, the tortured and the wounded from Afghanistan, Argentina, Brazil, Burma, Cambodia, Chile, China, Columbia, Congo, Costa Rica, Cuba, Egypt, El Salvador, Guatemala, Haiti, Indonesia, Iraq, Iran, Korea, Laos, Libya, Palestine, Peru, the Philippines, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Ukraine, Vietnam, Yemen, Yugoslavia, Zaire and depressingly many more states which the US have intentionally destabilised in order to further its international policy goals. You're not the good guys anymore than the Russians, or the Chinese are.

Cheers.
Evilroddy.

Most of those countries are and/or were in league with the bad guys. We were just trying to give them freedom help their people. You know like when Kennedy tried to assassinate Castro. Or when LBJ tried to stop communism in Vietnam. Now remember I cannot be responsible for those evil republicans but every thing the democrats did was for the good of our country and the other country. That is well known fact.
 
No you know better than that. But they don't 'know their place' either. Those days are long gone 'n they ain't comin' back.

The democrats are going to control this next election and they are going to straighten out the whole world again.
 
I'll have you know that I have just had to replace the buffer banks in my AKME Mk. 3 Sarcasm Detector for the third time due to your posts.

Have you considered renting apple boxes to other people so that they can stand on them in order to prevent what you are saying from going over their heads?

All is fair in love, war, and politics. I can't get anyone including myself to see the light so I might as well have fun. Remember this. This country will have another recession in the future. It will be Trumps fault unless their is another republican in office to blame. You heard it here first. We are the democrats resistance is futile.
 
Most of those countries are and/or were in league with the bad guys. We were just trying to give them freedom help their people. You know like when Kennedy tried to assassinate Castro. Or when LBJ tried to stop communism in Vietnam. Now remember I cannot be responsible for those evil republicans but every thing the democrats did was for the good of our country and the other country. That is well known fact.

Pipewrench:

US Democrats are just as compromised by militarism and regime change as Republicans. They just hide it better and use wishy-washy language to dress up their warhawks like peace-doves. This goes much deeper than partisan politics as is enabled by the exceptionalism which you yourself have claimed for America here.

Cheers.
Evilroddy.
 
Pipewrench:

US Democrats are just as compromised by militarism and regime change as Republicans. They just hide it better and use wishy-washy language to dress up their warhawks like peace-doves. This goes much deeper than partisan politics as is enabled by the exceptionalism which you yourself have claimed for America here.

Cheers.
Evilroddy.

The essential difference between the Republicans and the Democrats is that

  1. the Republicans are the MORE reactionary wing of "The American Capitalist Oligarchic Party"; and
  2. the Democrats are the LESS reactionary wing of "The American Capitalist Oligarchic Party".
 
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