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Who is really lying?

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At first I was going to place this thread in the mideast sub forum, but then I decided no because it is much broader in scope, and it also effects relations between the EU nations and the US as well as who is being conned in the US, the Whitehouse or the anti-Israel progressives, both? Nor is the con limited to either of these two in either direction, true or not.

When it comes to politics, local, national and international, determining who is being duplicitous, or perhaps more or less duplicitous isn't simple.

The following are two points of reference but they are far from the only ones if you do some simple searching. No doubt some will approach the topic with prejudices in hand, doubts and wishful thinking as a reality.

I am not passing judgment on this matter for anyone else, not attempting to sway opinion in any particular direction other than I trust no one easily or lightly. Read, search for other reports and opinion pieces, read them, and then draw your conclusions if you are interested.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/30/world/middleeast/israel-iran-nuclear-netanyahu.html

https://www.timesofisrael.com/seize...ect-was-larger-than-thought-had-foreign-help/

BTW, how Israel's Mossad managed the theft of these materials is like a plot out of Mission Impossible movie, and worth a separate read for the sheer entertainment value. Search and you shall find.
 
See “The Apollo Affair”.........to your last line in the OP.
 
Whether it's true or not is not really relevant, what is relevant is that you only have to cast enough doubt to make enough people believe. It was in America, Saudia Arabia, Israel, Jordan, UAE, even Rusian interest to abort the nuclear deal, they are all benefitting from Iranian sanctions and high oil prices. This is Netanyahu's baby, his plan to isolate Iran, he has his reasons, many of them good reasons (taken in perspective of Israeli national security). Btw he's not done yet, next phases are get Iran out of Syria or at least away from Israel's borders, secure Golan Heights.
 
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